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Ep. 13: All Hail the Queen (Latifah, not that other lady): Cleo vs. Khadijah Oct 11, 2019

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Wynter & Karen welcome Madin Lopez, a stylist and the founder of ProjectQ: a non-profit organization benefiting LGBTQ+ homeless youth by providing free gender-affirming haircuts, and safe-spaces, as well as life-skills workshops. On this National Coming Out Day, the three evaluate Queen Latifah's career and how her iconic characters, Cleo from Set it Off, and Khadijah from Living Single have influenced queer people of color over the last 25 years. Wynter swims with the gators of the horror-suspense flick, Crawl, while Karen revels in a stunning new oral history of the Lilith Fair in Vanity Fair. Meanwhile, Madin tells us a little about the Octavia Butler books they're reading to help them unwind, while interjecting a much needed millennial perspective into this week's NUO-LINGO. Plus, Madin's SOTW sends us into the weekend feeling empowered.

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Links to just about everything mentioned:

ProjectQ

https://www.projectq.me/about

Set It Off (1996) - Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9rxRimf99w

Building a Mystery: An Oral History of Lilith Fair

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2019/09/an-oral-history-of-lilith-fair

Living Single Opening Theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnD2mdaxUAo

Chicago | 'When You're Good to Mama'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6_odu4lNc

Last Holiday (2006) Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO0NSRPcPFs

Bringing Down The House (2003) Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-btKN19zlE

Jasmine Masters handle your liquor ('and I oop' at about 4:30)

https://youtu.be/g52aV8OcFcs?t=270

Queen Latifah - U.N.I.T.Y. (Official Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8cHxydDb7o

Ep. 12: Ryan Murphy's Nostalgia Game - AHS vs. ACS Oct 04, 2019

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With the recent debut of Ryan Murphy's American Horror Story: 1984, Wynter and Karen take the occasion to explore his deeply nostalgic oeuvre to consider whether or not his dominion is 80s camp or 90s magic realism, i.e. horror stories or true crime stories? The two talk about where they were when Richard Ramirez, the serial killer known as the Nightstalker and resurrected in AHS 1984, was wreaking havoc IRL. Wynter goes Inside Out with Demi Moore's new autobiography, Karen GAGS over the recently announced thirtysomething reboot, while both take a detour into The Affair's wild psychosexual turns as it wraps up its series run. Nuo-lingo tells you why this year's "GAG" is not 1984's, and we give you a song of the week that Ryan Murphy has yet to harvest from 1984's Hot 100 for his over-the-top slasher series.

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Links to just about everything mentioned:

American Horror Story: 1984 Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wcEiFIM3mM

Richard Ramirez (The Night Stalker) Biography

https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/richard-ramirez

Inside Out by Demi Moore

https://www.harpercollins.com/9780062049537/inside-out/

Thirtysomething Was One of the Most Iconic Shows of the 1980s. Now It's Coming Back for the 2020s.

https://www.vulture.com/2019/09/thirtysomething-the-tv-show-is-being-rebooted.html

The Affair foolishly bases an entire episode on a character we don't know very well

https://tv.avclub.com/the-affair-foolishly-bases-an-entire-episode-on-a-chara-1838595421

How Ryan Murphy Became King of the Streaming Boom

https://time.com/5667752/ryan-murphy-netflix/

The Politician Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-kdBlzCG7w

Hall & Oates - Method of Modern Love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3F4c7E9IBU

Ep. 11: The (Inappropriate) Objects of Our Affections: School Daze vs. Dear White People (TV series) Sep 27, 2019

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Karen and Wynter travel all the way to the University of Mississippi in Oxford for their first live show, with special guests Kiese Laymon and Alysia Steele. The four of them get into our inappropriate objects of pop-cultural affection--or the many times each of them has been told they were wannabes, or didn't belong for being POC who like "problematic pop objects." Befitting their idyllic campus setting, the panel gets into how School Daze vs. Dear White People (the TV series) each explore the minefield of desire and student culture at universities. Wynter praises Hustlers and tells us why J. Lo is the hardest working woman in show business. Karen gets into the "hard to watch," but nevertheless must-watch Netflix series on a serial rape case, Unbelievable with Merrit Wever and Toni Collette. Plus, we have more Nuo-Lingo for you, while Kiese and Alysia bring you two slappin' songs of the week. W2X thanks the Sarah Isom Center for Women and Gender Studies, and director Professor Jaime Harker for bringing us out to Ole Miss!

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Links To Just About Everything Mentioned:

"Good and Bad Hair" from School Daze (1988)

https://vimeo.com/136433500

Dear White People | Season 3 Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPbJdDKKds

Unbelievable | Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTIkUzkbzQk

EPMD - So Whatcha Sayin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4HJ-xvmSyo&feature=youtu.be

DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - Parents Just Don't Understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW3PFC86UNI

Ep. 10: On Becoming Kirsten Dunst: 1990s KD vs. 2000s KD Sep 13, 2019

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All hail the goddess, Kirsten Dunst, who just received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and is turning heads with her spectacular turn as Krystal Stubbs on the new Showtime series, On Becoming a God in Central Florida. Karen & Wynter dive deep into her under-appreciated career, focusing on her debut decade (the 1990s), as well as her rise to box-office domination (in the 2000s). Wynter calls new career opportunities in from the universe, while honing her taste-making and curatorial skills by indulging in a mini-marathon of Michael Douglas films. Karen finally plugs her fall book tour for Why Karen Carpenter Matters, and gives us another update on the bisexual modifications required of Bachelor in Paradise. The two also announce some exciting news about ep. 11--W2X's FIRST LIVE SHOW, which will be recorded in Oxford, Mississippi at Ole Miss with some very special guests. Plus, Nuo-Lingo tells us about who and what constitutes a "snack," while the SOTW will get your grooving, early aughts-style. We're taking a break for our trip to Ole Miss next week, so soak this one up to tide you over!

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Links To Just About Everything Mentioned:

Interview With The Vampire (1994) Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCmYN6TLd8A

On Becoming a God In Central Florida (2019) Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpxhCX47lZg

Wynter's Mini Michael Douglas Film Fest

Basic Instinct

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_20N7t-umo&t=7s

Falling Down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD5ofrSNDFA

Behind The Candelabra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n083CsdN4XM

Kirsten Dunst Filmography (IMDB)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000379/

GTA Online - After Hours: The Black Madonna full liveset

https://youtu.be/Pjl6kdVjf-w

Ep. 9: X'ed out of D23 - The Cat from Outer Space vs. Flight of the Navigator Sep 06, 2019

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Disney rolls out the reboots at its annual D23 convention and--surprise, surprise--there's little to tickle the fancies of Generation X, with all the devotion to Lizzie McGuire & HSM. Wynter & Karen remedy that by telling you which Disney reboots from the 70s & 80s they'd be interested in seeing, especially between The Cat from Outer Space vs. Flight of the Navigator. Karen fishes for a Netflix sponsorship by theming her birthday party, aka "Leztopia" after Wine Country. She also tells us what's brewing on the final season of Showtime's The Affair. Wynter follows up her previous VMA chatter with a postmortem on the broadcast, as well as a general assessment of the pop music landscape. Thanks to listeners Gerald & Keith, we have two new W2X bumpers for you to hear! Plus, what's a TikTok (in Nuo-Lingo), and your SOTW.

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Links To Just About Everything Mentioned:

Trailer for The Cat From Outer Space (1978)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SEaSW1jtnQ

Disney's High School Musical Reboot Trailer: The Start of Something Old

https://www.vulture.com/2019/08/disney-releases-first-high-school-musical-reboot-trailer.html

"The Belle of St. Mark" by Sheila E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThJYpaCcOqE

Ep. 8: Give us the Keys, Brandon: BH 90210-Brenda vs. Kelly Aug 30, 2019

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Both Wynter and Karen try not to cry every time they talk about the dearly departed Luke Perry, aka Dylan McKay. The two dive headfirst into a long simmering debate from the last 30 years--Brenda vs. Kelly--as the Fox reboot, BH 90210 confounds and excites viewers with its many layers of meta. Wynter is excited about this year's VMA's (!?!?), but only because Dr. Missy Elliott received the Video Vanguard award. Karen's wife has lured her into Bachelor Nation, with this season's queer-ish Bachelor in Paradise. Plus, in NUO-LINGO, we clarify the subtle nuances between "achievement unlocked" and "goals," while our SOTW is sure to make you slow-dance like its 1992.

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Dylan and Kelly tell Brenda about their summer together [YouTube]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TXkCSIRYUE

Beverly Hills, 90210 [Original intro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDOrOMuo-9o

BH90210 Trailer [2019 Reboot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcWKGy7df5o

MTV VMAs 2019: Watch Missy Elliott Accept the Video Vanguard Award, Presented by Cardi B

https://pitchfork.com/news/mtv-vmas-2019-watch-missy-elliott-accept-the-video-vanguard-award/

Brian McKnight & Vanessa Williams - Love Is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nra7OwEc0oA

Ep. 7: Impeachment & Political Sex Scandals: 1998 vs. 2019 Aug 23, 2019

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Wynter and Karen are abuzz with news of the casting for Ryan Murphy's next season of American Crime Story on the Clinton impeachment, with Monica Lewinsky on board as a producer, and Beanie Feldstein playing Monica. Each reflect on that moment in history as a turning point when politics and tabloid journalism collided, and Fox News was but a fledgling cesspool of misinformation. They also consider Monica's journey from infamy to potential Emmy and Golden Globes triumph, while digging into how our threshold for political & presidential crimes and misdemeanors has grown exponentially. Wynter visits Mexico for her anniversary, and ends up revisiting Candace Bushnell in the process. Karen talks about what it feels like to visit a red state in the age of Trump, as well as season 3 of GLOW's Asian politics. And as usual, NUO-LINGO and our SOTW.

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Links To Just About Everything Mentioned:

Clinton: 'I Did Not Have Sexual Relations With That Woman' Clip

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/clinton-i-did-not-have-sexual-relations-with-that-woman-248273987946

'Impeachment: American Crime Story' About Clinton Scandal A Go At FX With Sarah Paulson As Linda Tripp & Monica Lewinsky Producing

https://deadline.com/2019/08/bill-clinton-american-crime-story-impeachment-series-set-fx-monica-lewinsky-sarah-paulson-linda-tripp-1202662799/

Erasure - She Won't Be Home (Lonely Christmas)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKyKwGq5etw

Ep. 6: What the Wild Things Teach Us: Cocaine Bear vs. Meth Gator Aug 16, 2019

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W2X goes wild as we conjure a raucous showdown between urban legends, Cocaine Bear vs. Meth Gator! Who are they? What are they? And what do they tell us about person-kind's relationship to nature as it's evolved since nature TV in the 1970s and 1980s? Wynter tells us all about the new boomer cable channel MeTV as we have a slight skirmish over GenX shows like The Facts of Life that also appear on the network. Meanwhile, Karen explains her strange relationship to the Gordon Ramsay TV empire. As always, we've got nuo-lingo for you and a SOTW.

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Links To Just About Everything Mentioned:

Gordon Ramsay's 24 Hours To Hell & Back Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4ptgPliiMo

The Craziest Moments of Amy's Baking Company on Kitchen Nightmares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC8i0gt5m-Y

Gordon Ramsay: Uncharted (National Geographic)

https://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/videos/gordon-ramsay-uncharted/gordon-ramsay-uncharted-trailer-5932.aspx

MeTV Show Listing

https://www.metv.com/shows/

Tennessee police warn flushing drugs could create hyper-aggressive alligators

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tennessee-police-warn-locals-not-flush-drugs-fear-meth-gators-n1030291

Cocaine Bear - Roadside America

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/50220

9-year-old girl charged by bison at Yellowstone Park, treated for injuries

https://www.abcfoxmontana.com/all_abc_fox/year-old-girl-charged-by-bison-at-yellowstone-park-treated/article_68791cf6-ad90-11e9-ade2-f3c842118ddd.html

Class of 1999 - Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOM2jgzBBhs

Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY

Visual Communications

vcmedia.org

Potluck Podcast Collective

podcastpotluck.com

Ep. 5: From Pin-Ups to Big Papas: Brad Pitt vs. Leonardo DiCaprio Aug 09, 2019

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It's a battle of GenX matinee idols, Brad Pitt vs. Leonardo DiCaprio. Wynter and Karen reflect on the arc of Brad & Leo's careers in light of their latest joint venture, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. The two also reveal the special joys of "secret single behaviors" when they take themselves out without their spouses. Wynter hits the comedy clubs, and Karen talks about her close encounter with Maya Rudolph & PT Anderson at the movies. Plus, nuo-lingo and your SOTW.

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Thelma & Louise - Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRr0HY9MPZ0

Tituss Burgess on Working with Eddie Murphy | WWHL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJGE52yLGuY

Survivor - High On You Music Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxhueyC70cU

Visual Communications

vcmedia.org

Potluck Podcast Collective

podcastpotluck.com

Ep 4: YouTubin' with Generation X: Mentos vs. Diet Pepsi Aug 02, 2019

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Pop open a Bartles & Jaymes, and pull your rocking chair up to your laptop, Wynter and Karen get into how Generation X uses YouTube, from nostalgic forays into old commercials and landmark pop culture moments, to how-to videos and instructional content. But they don't stop there: Wynter also scours YouTube for fresh content to break us all out of our slacker rut. Speaking of slackers, Karen revisits Always Be My Maybe through the lens of the Asian slacker, while also anticipating crying a lot to Awkwafina's dramatic turn in The Farewell. Meanwhile, Wynter prepares to celebrate her first wedding anniversary like an enlightened Don Draper at Esalen, and has high praise for CNN's docuseries, The Movies. The two stage an ad war between Mentos vs. Diet Pepsi, and ask you to sus out some "nuo lingo." As always, we close things out with a SOTW.

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Links to just about everything mentioned:

Bartles & Jaymes Ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYdWHK6AA6E

Michael J Fox DIET PEPSI (1987)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqNXNE-P4uc&app=desktop

MENTOS: The Freshmaker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfp2Bg6iUdY

YouTube Is a Temple of Nostalgia for 1990s TV Commercials

https://slate.com/technology/2018/03/youtube-is-a-temple-of-nostalgia-for-1990s-tv-commercials.html

Bon Appetit - Gourmet Makes With Claire Saffitz