Verse Talks

Mario Klingemann on the evolution of Botto Jan 31, 2025

02:40 - Building and hacking systems

09:35 - The birth of Botto

14:10 - The importance of the DAO

18:30 - The evolution of Botto in the face of new AI development

20:40 - Botto's persona and longevity

25:30 - Styles, themes and periods

27:53 - The economy of Botto, rewards and incentives

37:45 - The genesis of P5.Botto

41:15 - How the p5.Botto system works

47:50 - The final 22 algorithms

56:43 - Long term goals and possible futures

57:48 - The tension and benefits between autonomy and governance

01:00:39 - How much of Botto's personality comes through

01:03:29 - How Mario sees things developing

01:07:10 - The importance of competition

AI and the art market, Emerging artists, Kim Asendorf's PXL Jan 24, 2025

01:25 - Crazy season
11:25 - Kim Asendof's PXL and an upward market
21:47 - Thinking about emerging artists
26:25 - Striking a balance
31:26 - Tabor Robak's Tabcorp Labs
36:24 - Verse Rundown
39:16 - Artist Highlights
40:49 - Digital natives and gaming culture
44:22 - Artist Highlights part 2
48:40 - A chat with Jo Lawson-Tancred
50:21 - Is the art world dead?
53:00 - Scepticism around AI in art
58:15 - AI within the paradigm of digital art and its culture of collecting
01:00:08 - The advent of the art market and parallels with the digital landscape
01:03:58 - Straddling the traditional and web3 spaces
01:10:20 - AI as an artist
01:14:13 - AI and The Art Market
01:20:25 - Opacity and Transparency in the trad and web3 markets
Kim Asendorf: https://x.com/kimasendorf
Tabor Robak: https://x.com/TaborRobak
John Karrel: https://x.com/jjjjjjjjjjohn
DistCollective: https://x.com/dist_cs
Matto: https://x.com/matto__matto
Jo Lawson-Tancred: https://x.com/jolawsontancred
AI and the Art Market
https://www.lundhumphries.com/products/ai-and-the-art-market

Breaking new ground with Botto, Ivan heads up Artist Rooms, the Rodeo continues Jan 17, 2025

00:37 - Ivan heads up Artist Rooms
01:50 - The excitement of a more open schedule
03:04 - Curation and focus for Artist Rooms
07:19 - Flexibility, freedom and consistency
11:13 - Thinking about what to show
14:54 - A difference in approach
20:07 - Foundations and backgrounds
32:13 - Breaking new ground with Botto
36:55 - Rodeo forging ahead
45:25 - The success of gamification
47:30 - Implications for the mainstream
50:20 - Verse rundown
50:43 - Artist highlights
Jay's Rodeo thread: https://x.com/punk7635/status/1879324354074587191?s=46
Anna Malina: https://x.com/annaxmalina
Juanna Pedro: https://x.com/PedroJuanna
Andrea Litmus: https://x.com/andrealitmus
Shoye: https://x.com/_SHOYE_
Molly Moon: https://www.tiktok.com/@mollymoonn2?lang=en

Rodeo takes off, defining importance and "the" list Jan 11, 2025

01:38 - Breaking down the list
03:40 - Context matters
07:06 - Liquidity and rarity
10:37 - How to define importance
16:10 - The problem with 'the' list
21:08 - Trickle-down economics and potential positives
27:34 - A split in the space, ChrisF's prescience
34:24 - Rodeo takes off
37:06 - Gamification and social interaction
39:37 - Ease of use and pace of consumption
42:22 - Thoughts as a collector
45:55 - Potential impact on an artist's body of work
47:11 - Onboarding and growth
54:50- Verse rundown
57:37 - Artist Highlights
John Provencher - https://x.com/hahajohnx/status/1876065942637359452?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw
Marcela Bellini - https://x.com/studiobellini https://rodeo.club/@marcelaart
Sabato - https://x.com/sabatobox https://rodeo.club/@sabato
Scorpion Dagger - https://x.com/scorpdag https://rodeo.club/@scorpiondagger

Predictions, collecting and curating in 2025 Jan 03, 2025

06:49 - Trends and predictions for 2025
07:20 - AI agents and their continued impact
18:51 - The decline of metas
26:24 - Expanding the definition of art
28:56 - An increased tokenisation of art
30:57 - Barriers to entry for the space
36:58 - Complexity and exclusion
44:43 - WIPs and social engagement
46:07 - Growth in mixed media works
46:56 - Collecting in 2025
56:32 - Relationship with works
01:04:32 - Approaches to curating in 2025
01:17:28 - Verse rundown

Team picks and highlights of 2024 Dec 31, 2024

01:38 - Highlights and Lowlights
22:23 - Collector of the year
30:44 - Influencer of the year
40:25 - Blockchain of the year
46:10 - Controversy of the year
59:15 - Most though provoking piece of the year
01:01:46 - Series of the year
01:05:37 - Artwork of the year
01:08:21 - Favourite pieces collected this year
01:18:22 - Favourite new discovery this year
01:21:03 - Artist of the year
01:25:35 - Parting thoughts on 2024
Collector of the year:
Studio137: https://gallery.so/studio137
ClownVamp: https://x.com/ClownVamp
Artie Handz: https://x.com/punk7635
Graceb: https://x.com/graceb_art
ikijima: https://x.com/iki_jima
Influencer of the year:
DeeZe: https://x.com/deeze
redbeard: https://x.com/redbeardnft
Sonso: https://x.com/saintsonso
Shillr: https://x.com/shillrxyz
Le Random: https://x.com/lerandomart
Greekdx: https://x.com/greekdx
CSA2D7: https://x.com/csa2d7
Blockbird: https://x.com/_blockbird
sssluke: https://x.com/sssluke1
Most Thought Provoking Works:
Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst - The Call https://www.serpentinegalleries.org/whats-on/holly-herndon-mat-dryhurst-the-call/
Shl0ms: https://www.shl0ms.com
0xfff - World Computer Sculpture Garden https://worldcomputersculpture.garden
Favourite Series:
Erik Swahn - Autoscope https://verse.works/series/autoscope-by-erik-swahn
Petra Cortright - Burnt Umber Broken Silver American Spirit https://verse.works/series/burnt-umber-broken-silver-american-spirit-by-petra-cortright
tinysoul: Level 1 https://verse.works/series/level-1-by-tiny-soul
Joe Pease - everything vs nothing: https://www.everythingvsnothing.com

Travess Smalley – Crawl https://feralfile.com/explore/series/82dcf3d9-56ba-40bf-b57d-3a631bbdb7d5?viewMode=Grid

0xfff - You Are Here https://youarehere.0xfff.love

Rutherford Chang - CENTS https://rutherfordchang.com/cents
PERFECTLOOP - Trails https://verse.works/series/trails-by-perfect-l00p
Yoshi Sodeoka - The Flood https://verse.works/series/the-flood-orchestrated-by-yoshi-sodeoka
Jacek Markusiewicz - Barbarians https://verse.works/series/barbarians-by-jacek-markusiewicz
Roope Rainisto - Vacation https://verse.works/series/vacation-by-roope-rainisto
Tabor Robak - Broken Printer

Looking back on 2024, systems art vs object fetishism, platform tokens Dec 20, 2024

01:23 - Signs for the year ahead
04:52 - Looking back on 2024
10:11 - Buying, selling and thinking about a collection from a market perspective
13:21 - Reflecting on the last year at Verse
17:10 - Institutional and populist approaches towards culture
20:50 - ChrisF's systems art vs object fetishism thesis
27:49 - fxhash, OpenSea and platform tokens
42:42 - Lonli's highlight
44:16 - Verse rundown
47:59 - Artist Highlights
ChrisF's tweet - https://x.com/chrisf_0x/status/1867663900256481763?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw
Riiiis: bully - https://verse.works/series/bully-by-riiiis
Jacek Markusiewicz: Barbarians - https://verse.works/series/barbarians-by-jacek-markusiewicz
Erik Swahn: Autoscope - https://verse.works/series/autoscope-by-erik-swahn
Datura - https://x.com/daturascore
Yehwan Song - https://x.com/yehwanyensong
Yehwan Song - Seeingless Seeing - https://verse.works/artworks/5dd8d947-ae87-4283-b526-35b1083c9e17/1
gozo - https://x.com/uncertaingaze
ex_mortal - https://x.com/ex_mortal_
ex_mortal: infinity_systems_one - https://verse.works/series/infinity_systems_one-by-ex-mortal

Inside TABCORP LABS: a conversation with Tabor Robak Dec 16, 2024

01:14 - An overview of Tabor's career to date
04:19 - The common threads
07:25 - Physical vs digital
12:39 - Scepticism from the traditional space
15:41 - Working at a web3 pace
18:44 - Conservatism in contemporary art
25:30 - Broken Printer's Recycled Program
29:53 - The process of creating a Recycled piece
34:23 - The genesis of Broken Printer
40:22 - The birth of TABCORP LABS
43:08 - What is TABCORP LABS
47:46 - The artist, collector dynamic
51:05 - The Materializer and the mechanics of TABCORP LABS
53:53 - New traits and how they impact the work
58:03 - Tabor's Favourite Broken Printer
01:02:20 - When will collectors receive their pieces

Art Basel & shl0ms recap, 'drops' vs ongoing releases, do curators need to be collectors Dec 13, 2024

00:38 - Art Basel Recap
04:12 - Online vs irl connections
07:40 - Reflections on Security
19:59 - Release mechanics and artist growth
32:15 - The value of network effects
38:48 - Do curators need to be collectors
45:25 - Basel Recap pt 2
51:00 - Verse rundown
59:07 - Artist highlights
Dev Harlan - https://x.com/devharlan
Nicolas Sassoon - https://x.com/nicolas_sassoon
Tabor Robak - https://x.com/taborrobak
Tù.úk’z - https://x.com/tuukzs
Dadabots - https://x.com/dadabots

Release Dynamics, PFPs and community, discipline to collecting, Shl0ms is God Dec 06, 2024

00:48 - Are we back?
04:25 - Collector confidence
11:14 - New entrants to the space
13:17 - RTFKT closure
17:20 - PFPs, identity and community
29:33 - Meme coins and risk
34:07 - Dynamics of fractionalisation
44:45 - Network effects and OEs
51:22 - Shl0ms is God
55:44 - Discipline to collecting
01:04:44 - Verse rundown
01:07:22 - Artist highlights
Eko33 - https://x.com/eko33
Panaviscope - https://x.com/panaviscope
Ex Mortal - https://x.com/ex_mortal_

Reflecting on the Banana, memes and virality, gearing up for Miami, the final act of Shl0ms' Security Nov 29, 2024

01:08 - Jay's experience as an artist
10:00 - "Anyone can art?"
16:59 - Reflecting on the banana and its impact
21:12 - Memes and virality
27:11 - Brain Rot and the speed of culture
36:31 - Traditional conceptual art and NFTs
40:00 - Bullposting and energy online
47:51 - Responsibility towards artists
51:43 - Paintboxed Miami
53:47 - The final act of Shl0ms' Security
54:40 - The Tornado Cash ruling
57:51 - Verse Rundown
01:01:14 - Artist Highlights
Auriea Harvey - https://x.com/auriea
Mazin - https://x.com/endless_mazin
Mark Webster - https://x.com/motiondesign
Yoshi Sodeoka - https://x.com/yoshi_sodeoka
Perfectloop - https://x.com/perfectl00p
Elna Frederick - https://x.com/elna_frederick
Yurijjjj - https://x.com/yuri_jjjj
Matt DesLauries - Bitframes: https://bitframes.io

AI agents, meme coins, Marfa recap Nov 22, 2024

01:18 - Marfa recap
16:45 - Artists, meme coins and marketing
23:04 - Financial nihilism and Sterling Crispin's post
26:54 - AI agents and their cultural impact
31:05 - The importance of human connection
34:46 - Framing agent developments, aesthetics and process
39:05 - Potential for growth in the space
42:39 - Unbound by human limits
46:15 - How should Verse navigate the art-agent axis
01:01:41 - Verse Rundown
01:10:38 - Artist Highlights
qubibi - https://x.com/qubibi
quibibi Awakened - https://highlight.xyz/mint/shape:0xF3851e1b7824BD920350E6Fe9B890bb76d01C9f7
noper - https://x.com/bagdelete
Maya Man - https://x.com/mayaonthenet
Ann Hirsch - https://x.com/nnhirsch
Ugly Bitches: https://verse.works/series/ugly-bitches-by-maya-man
pale kirill - https://x.com/palekirill
Canek Zapata - https://x.com/canekzapata

Virality in art, shared cultural realities, navigating the market Nov 15, 2024

01:09 - Sentiment check
03:01 - Navigating the market
09:07 - Platforms prepping for the bull
15:45 - Twitter discourse
17:54 - Art and virality
22:18 - The impact of virality on a creative practice
30:15 - Cultural parallels from the mainstream
33:39 - The bleeding edge
35:43 - tinysoul
38:04 - Memes, video games and shared cultural realities
41:15 - Verse Rundown
46:09 - Artist Highlights
Michelle Tompson: https://x.com/mich_tom
Andreas Gysin: https://x.com/andreasgysin
Jan Robert Leegte: https://x.com/janrobertleegte
Paul Prudence: https://x.com/mrprudence
Paul Prudence - ISO/IEC 10646: https://verse.works/series/iso-iec-10646-by-paul-prudence?itemId=41065b8e-42d9-4e9f-9336-4999516378ae
Iskra Velitchkova: https://x.com/pointline_
Iskra Velitchkova - Ink: https://www.artblocks.io/curated/collections/ink-(fragrances)-by-iskra-velitchkova

Investment funds involvement with institutions, ethics in the space, $BAN fall out and Paris Photo Nov 08, 2024

00:31 - Sentiment in the space
03:10 - Paris Photo
11:44 - $BAN and Michael Bouhanna
17:20 - The responsibility of leaders in the space and public perception
25:04 - The most significant work of the 21st Century
28:18 - Mechanics of museum administration
31:11 - Investment funds involvement with institutions
41:05 - Verse Rundown
58:02 - Artist Highlights
Luluxxx - https://x.com/luluixixix
Rafaël Rozendaal - https://x.com/newrafael
qubibi - https://x.com/qubibien
Disrupted Star - https://x.com/tidallyd
Legio X - https://x.com/legio_x_
Shaun Keenan - https://x.com/ktheorphan
World Computer Sculpture Garden: https://x.com/0xshiroi/status/1853775794264236338?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw

AI season, Botto's evolution, artist meme coins, ArtBlocks partners with OpenSea Nov 01, 2024

00:29 - Sentiment in the space
02:31 - Art Basel report and movement in the wider art world
07:18 - Cattelan's banana and artist meme coins
15:50 - Sh0ms' Nothing
17:37 - AI season
19:54 - Botto turns to code based generative art
24:14 - The importance of growth in any practice
26:33 - ArtBlock partners with OpenSea
35:39 - Verse Rundown
41:02 - Artist highlights
Cherry: https://x.com/aletiune
ClownVamp - The Junk Machine: https://x.com/clownvamp/status/1851624131160064011?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw
Artie Handz - the deviates: https://highlight.xyz/mint/shape:0xD4dd46226Db9c0c7af2D6925ffAC3af193422649

Artie Handz news, ArtBlocks Curated returns, Foundation's Pivot Oct 26, 2024

00:33 - Artie Handz news
05:03 - The realities of running a platform in the space
10:07 - Has being platform side shifted Jay's perspective
11:53 - What's next, new Artie Galerie shows and Jay's own series
15:01 - The two sides of the space and where they intersect
29:14 - Exploring the ArtBlocks premium
34:18 - Unpacking mpkoz's Bokeh and AB Curated's return
44:11 - Foundations' instagram wipe
54:15 - Mazin's Phantasmagoria
57:47 - Zuka Kipiani upcoming on Artie Galerie
01:01:45 - Push, pull and different perspectives
01:09:16 - Verse Rundown
01:15:33 - Artist highlights
RJ - Crash: https://verse.works/series/crash-by-rj16848519
Auriea Harvey - Me And My Ghost: https://objkt.com/collections/KT1ERJwCZGPNwarxhxVmXBjh96pchnTMpHNi

Lillian Schwartz: http://lillian.com/
Nice Aunties: https://x.com/niceaunties/status/1848285696932655230?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw
Iskra Velitchkova: http://iskraovelitchkova.com
Mika Rottenberg: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/23390-mika-rottenberg/

Frieze rundown, are fairs still relevant, the bleeding edge, emotion versus technicality in art Oct 18, 2024

1:52 Sentiment check
10:45 Shl0ms, energy and the market
15:05 Frieze rundown, are art fairs still relevant?
20:48 Combining a digital and physical approach
23:40 Confidence in marketing work
25:20 The importance of a physical space
30:54 The bleeding edge
32:57 Familiarity, perception and context
36:23 Trends, top tens and the mainstream
39:48 Emotion versus technicality
46:33 Highlighting our pioneers
50:33 Artist highlights
Ex Mortal: https://x.com/ex_mortal_
Etienne Jacob: https://x.com/etiennejcb
Beesandbombs: https://x.com/beesandbombs
Cedar Plank: https://x.com/hasdrubalwaffle
Jon Wubbushi: https://x.com/wubbushi
The Rapture: https://verse.works/series/the-rapture-by-wubbushi

Artist sustainability, posturing and authenticity, collector mentality, Shl0ms' Security Oct 11, 2024

12:00 - Posturing and authenticity
21:03 - Collectors selling
24:50 - Reflecting on price extremes
30:44 - 2021 fallout and the price of participation
35:33 - Risk and opportunity
53:17 - Market moving
57:48 - Forming relationships in the space
1:01:40 - Pseudonymity vs openness
1:07:18 - Verse rundown and Shl0ms' Security
1:17:35 - Artist highlights
Bank: https://x.com/blankspac_e
0009: https://verse.works/0009
Jon Cates: http://joncates.com/
Jon Cates - Gitch Western Cowboy: https://objkt.com/tokens/KT1XDBxZxcyKh2NhAAiCvELu57LvvjQBTfWU/111
Riiiis: https://riiiis.xyz
SPACEFILLER: https://x.com/spacefillerart
Arsiliath: https://x.com/arsiliath

BURNT UMBER BROKEN SILVER AMERICAN SPIRIT, a conversation with Petra Cortright Oct 07, 2024

https://www.petracortright.com/
https://solos.gallery/artists/petra-cortright
https://verse.works/petra-cortright

Shape goes live, private sales vs the ethos of the space, is crypto hurting us, Verse's new secondary market and SOLOS fall programme Oct 04, 2024

00:56 - Shape goes live
05:20 - Private sales vs accessibility
17:20 - Should PFPs show up in an art platform’s secondary market? Where’s the line?
25:40 - Is association with crypto and gambling holding the digital art movement back?
39:40 - Mert's tweet
43:50 - Verse rundown & SOLOS fall programme
56:03 - Artist highlights
William Mapan: https://verse.works/william-mapan
Momo: https://deadlyyucca.com
RJ: https://rj16848519.com/about
Jeres - Repetition and Noise: https://highlight.xyz/mint/base:0x8718d8f356FCDcbe6BD359A157A63dB898dC3f53
Yuri_jjjj: https://objkt.com/@yurijjjj
Mert's tweet: https://x.com/0xmert_/status/1840765813021626501?s=46&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw

Silk Road run down, competition in the space, Mat Dryhurst's post, is conceptual art a scam? Sep 27, 2024

3:30 - Silk Road run down
7:33 - Collaboration in the space
13:58 - Competing or complementary
23:54 - The issue with a lack of risk
31:02 - The growth of a global scene
38:40 - is conceptual art a scam
49:40 - Verse run down and artist highlights
The Water Museum - Arctic Eggs: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2763670/Arctic_Eggs/
Chia Amisola: https://chia.design/
Ganbrood - Daemonica Syntheticum: https://verse.works/series/daemonica-syntheticum

Bad taste in the space? What is good art? Verse product updates Sep 20, 2024

01:35 - Personal Journeys
17:00 - Bad Taste in the space?
26:00 - Defining good art
33:00 - What is bad art
37:50 - Artist wallets and provenance
42:45 - Verse run down
50:10 - Verse Collect
51:49 - Artist highlights
Tù.úk’z - Escapes: https://verse.works/series/escapes-tuukz
PerfectLoop - https://objkt.com/@perfectloop
Jess MacCormak: https://daily.xyz/artist/jess-mac