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    Untangled Faith

    A podcast for anyone who has found themself disillusioned or discouraged in their faith journey and who wants to hold on to their faith while untangling it from all that is not good or true.

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    83: Dave Ramsey's Legal Nightmare: Time Share Exit Team Class-Action Lawsuit Deep Dive with Melissa Hogan Jun 07, 2023
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    Dave Ramsey's Legal Nightmare: Time Share Exit Team Class-Action Lawsuit Deep Dive with Melissa Hogan

    Dave Ramsey is facing a class action lawsuit from invested fans who trusted his endorsement of Timeshare Exit Team, a company accused of committing fraud. The case raises questions about what Ramsey knew or should have known, and whether he did due diligence before endorsing the company.

    This episode covers:

    • The controversial partnership between Ramsey Solutions and Timeshare Exit Team.

    • The legal implications surrounding the class-action lawsuit filed against Dave Ramsey.

    • The importance of transparency and thorough evaluation in business interactions.

    • The power of class-action lawsuits in promoting a responsible corporate culture.


    My special guest is Amy Fritz, Melissa Hogan

    Melissa Hogan is an accomplished lawyer with a career spanning over two decades. Her extensive experience has given her a deep understanding of the legal world, which she shares with listeners on the Untangled Faith podcast. Host Amy Fritz invites Melissa to discuss the recent class-action lawsuit against Dave Ramsey. Melissa simplifies the complex legal issues surrounding the case, helping listeners to better understand its implications.

    The key moments in this episode are:

    How the Lawsuit was Discovered Allegations Against Timeshare Exit Team Endorsed Local Provider Program Expectations for Ramsey's Response Class Action Lawsuit Timeline

    Resources:

    Melissa Hogan's article on the Time Share Exit Team Class Action Lawsuit against Dave Ramsey and Ramsey Solutions.

    https://melissajhogan.medium.com/breaking-dave-ramsey-sued-by-former-fans-in-class-action-lawsuit-3b92d3cb60d8

    Related Episodes:

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/02/22/71-in-the-dark-spiritual-and-ethical-implications-of-ramsey-solutions-updated-employee-agreement/

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/07/20/48-former-ramsey-solutions-employees-reflect-on-their-experience-with-ramsey-meetings/

    Support the show:

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith

    This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

    Where you can find me:

    Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com

    https://instagram.com/untangledfaith

    https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

    https://twitter.com/faithuntangled

    https://twitter.com/amyfritz

    Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

    Producers:

    Michele Pjanic

    Phil and Susan Perdue

    Pam Forsythe

    Chelle Taylor


    79: Domestic Violence & Evangelical Churches. Guest: Neil Schori May 10, 2023
    Show notes

    Neil Schori joins Amy Fritz to talk about how to recognize when someone is in an abusive relationship or you're interacting with an abuser. This is a crucial conversation for pastors and ministry leaders and anyone who cares about being a safe refuge for those who have been harmed.

    Document The Abuse

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    Amy and Neil talked about

    • Signs of unhealthy and unsafe relationships and the importance of supporting affected individuals.

    • The impact of financial control and the normalization of "permission language" in relationships.

    • The tragic case of Stacy Peterson and what it teaches us about recognizing abuse.

    • How misconceptions about abuse, particularly emotional and psychological abuse, persist in both public and faith communities.

    • The religious perspectives on divorce, particularly in the context of abuse.

    • The proper counseling approach when dealing with abuse, warning against couples counseling in abuse cases.


    Featured Guest

    • Neil Schori


    Resources mentioned

    • This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled
    • Document The Abuse


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    Related Episodes:

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/05/11/43-what-weve-gotten-wrong-about-divorce-guest-gretchen-baskerville/


    75: Surviving, Healing, & The Pitfalls of Advocacy. Guest: Lori Anne Thompson Apr 12, 2023
    Show notes

    Have you been told to (or seen others) push through personal pain and trauma while engaging in advocacy for the health of the Church without being given the tools to manage your (or their) own emotional wellness? Are you often feeling overwhelmed and exhausted?

    Meet Lori Anne Thompson: a compassionate survivor, storyteller, and student. Lori Anne is a devoted wife, mother, and enthusiastic cook who loves to share her passion for sustainable rhythms and healing for those who have survived trauma.

    Lori Anne and Amy talk through these topics in this episode of the Untangled Faith podcast:

    Who is Lori Anne Thompson?

    The Three Phases of Recovery

    How trauma can't be your whole life

    Chronic activation

    Finding sustainable ways to give back

    Red flags to look for

    Becoming what we're against

    The power of saying no.

    If you want to submit a question for the 2nd-anniversary episode, you can submit a question here: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/anniversary

    Links:

    Victim Impact Statement from Lori Anne Thompson regarding Ravi Zacharias:

    https://loriannethompson.com/2021/02/08/lori-anne-thompson-victim-impact-statement/

    https://loriannethompson.com

    https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/bulletin/cpac-trump-transgenderism-oscars.html

    Truth & Repair: How Trauma Survivors Envision Justice by Judith Herman: https://amzn.to/3mxzx0W

    Related Episodes:

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/01/25/67-the-secret-to-being-courageous-guest-kj-ramsey/

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/09/14/55-a-curious-faith-guest-lore-wilbert/

    Support the show:

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith

    This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

    Where you can find me:

    Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com

    https://instagram.com/untangledfaith

    https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

    https://twitter.com/faithuntangled

    https://twitter.com/amyfritz

    Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

    Producers:

    Michele Pjanic

    Phil and Susan Perdue

    Pam Forsythe

    Chelle Taylor


    72: Unraveling Abuse in the Church: Pete Singer on Third-Party Investigations & Trauma-Informed Practices Mar 01, 2023
    Show notes

    Pete Singer, executive director of GRACE, shares about grooming, hidden trauma, being "overly" sensitive to abuse, and the importance of third-party investigations.

    "Perpetrators put a lot of effort into being the kind of person who would never do that."

    "Being more sensitive may be the product of having more knowledge."

    Pete Singer is the Executive Director of GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment and an expert on third-party investigations, trauma, and trauma-informed practice.

    GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment is a nonprofit organization that specializes in safeguarding initiatives to guard against church abuse, sexual abuse in the church.

    In this episode, you will learn the following:

    1. What misconceptions about perpetrators of abuse do people have, and how can we ensure we are more informed?

    2. How does trauma-informed practice apply in churches, and why is it important?

    3. How can churches protect possible victims and be transparent and trustworthy in their response to allegations of misconduct?

    Links:

    https://netgrace.org

    SAMHSA's Six Principles of Trauma-Informed Care – Post-Secondary Peer Support Training Curriculum (opentextbc.ca)

    Related Episodes:

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/11/03/20-our-ramsey-story-part-4-the-got-your-six-meeting-1-of-2-episodes/

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/11/03/21-our-ramsey-story-part-5-the-got-your-six-meeting-2-of-2-episodes/

    Support the show:

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith

    This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

    Where you can find me:

    Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com

    https://instagram.com/untangledfaith

    https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

    https://twitter.com/faithuntangled

    https://twitter.com/amyfritz

    Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

    Producers:

    Michele Pjanic

    Phil and Susan Perdue

    Pam Forsythe

    Chelle Taylor


    71: Why You Should Reconsider A Ramsey Solutions Job Feb 22, 2023
    Show notes

    Here's why you should reconsider a Ramsey Solutions job.

    "If telling the truth is risking the business, you've got a truth problem, not a business problem."- Melissa J. Hogan

    Melissa Hogan is an attorney and fan favorite of the Untangled Faith Podcast. She joins Amy Fritz to discuss the implications of new requirements for employees of Ramsey Solutions, and to shine a light on the ethical and spiritual issues surrounding the policies.

    Here's what I cover with Melissa Hogan in this episode:

    1. Unethical, spiritual and practical issues surrounding a Christian company's new policies.
    2. Fear tactics and how they are used to control and manage an image, instead of promoting truth and Jesus.
    3. Potential legal challenges and rights surrounding non-disclosure agreements, works-for-hire and non-solicitation clauses, and forced arbitration.

    Dave Ramsey's unhealthy work environment has implications for employee rights.

    Episode transcript: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/transcription-3.docx-1.pdf

    Links:

    Ramsey Solutions Reviews: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Ramsey-Solutions-Reviews-E355423.htm

    https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/board-rules-that-employers-may-not-offer-severance-agreements-requiring

    https://melissajhogan.medium.com/dear-churches-stop-using-ndas-and-other-silencing-strategies-b45b7c8d297c

    https://danwatt.org/2022/09/comparing-the-non-disparagements-of-a-christian-workplace/

    https://religionnews.com/2022/09/08/ndas-are-a-tool-for-toxic-church-cultures/

    Related Episodes:

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/08/31/54-silencing-techniques-used-by-churches-and-faith-organizations/

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/07/20/47-impression-management-ramsey-solutions-guest-dr-wade-mullen/

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/07/20/48-former-ramsey-solutions-employees-reflect-on-their-experience-with-ramsey-meetings/

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/05/04/42-boz-tchividjian-answers-your-questions-on-g-r-a-c-e-caring-well-churchtoo-ndas/

    Support the show:

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith

    This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

    Where you can find me:

    Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com

    https://instagram.com/untangledfaith

    https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

    https://twitter.com/faithuntangled

    https://twitter.com/amyfritz

    Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

    Producers:

    Michele Pjanic

    Phil and Susan Perdue

    Pam Forsythe

    Chelle Taylor


    70: Whistleblowing On The Record: Lori Harding & Lori Adams-Brown's Experience Feb 15, 2023
    Show notes

    What happened when Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding courageously revealed the truth about abuse of power in the church?

    Lori Adams-Brown shares more about speaking on the record with Julie Roys about her experience with Pastor Andy Wood, successor to Rick Warren at Saddleback Church.

    Lori Harding shares about speaking on the record with Julie Roys about her experience with Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church. "We do what we can with what we know, and that is a courageous act of faith." -Lori Adams-Brown Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding are two courageous women who have gone on the record with a journalist to share their experiences with abusive and unhealthy leaders in the church. They both have a deep love for Jesus and a desire to bring justice and healing to those who have been hurt. Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding found the courage to speak out despite the personal risk. In this episode, you will learn the following: 1. What was it like to wait for their stories to be shared? 2. What they would have done differently. 3. Advice to those considering speaking out.

    Links:

    Lori Harding's story-

    https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-1/

    https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-2/

    Lori Adams-Brown story-

    https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/

    https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/

    Related Episodes:

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/02/08/69going-on-the-record-with-lori-adams-brown-lori-harding-trust-trauma-telling-your-story/

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/12/15/26-what-about-bob-an-interview-with-religion-journalist-bob-smietana/

    Support the show:

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith

    This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

    Where you can find me:

    Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com

    https://instagram.com/untangledfaith

    https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

    https://twitter.com/faithuntangled

    https://twitter.com/amyfritz

    Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

    Producers:

    Michele Pjanic

    Phil and Susan Perdue

    Pam Forsythe

    Chelle Taylor


    69:Going On The Record with Lori Adams-Brown & Lori Harding: Trust, Trauma & Telling Your Story Feb 08, 2023
    Show notes

    "We did this out of love to protect sheep. Exposing the darkness to the light is how it happens." - Lori Adams-Brown

    Some of you have a story to tell that you've never told anyone.

    And some of you are wondering if that story should find it's way to a journalist.

    Where would you go?

    How does that even work?

    What all goes into the process and what do you need to know to make it out on the other side?

    Today I'm joined by two friends who answer those questions as we pull back the curtain to show you what it's like to go on the record for a journalist.

    Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding are two courageous women who have gone on the record with journalist Julie Roys to share their stories of abuse in the church. In this episode:

    1. How they decided to go public with their story of abuse. What was the process like? What were their concerns? How did they navigate the process? 2. The role of investigative journalism in exposing the darkness and restoring the church: How did they choose a reporter? What were the expectations? What was the interview process like? 3. The consequences of speaking out: How did they prepare for the backlash? What were some of the criticisms they faced?

    Links:

    Lori Harding's story-

    https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-1/

    https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-2/

    Lori Adams-Brown story-

    https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/

    https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/

    Related Episodes:

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/12/15/26-what-about-bob-an-interview-with-religion-journalist-bob-smietana/

    Support the show:

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith

    This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

    Where you can find me:

    Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg

    https://untangledfaithpodcast.com

    https://instagram.com/untangledfaith

    https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz

    https://twitter.com/faithuntangled

    https://twitter.com/amyfritz

    Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

    Producers:

    Michele Pjanic

    Phil and Susan Perdue

    Pam Forsythe

    Chelle Taylor


    57: Start With Hello. Guest: Shannan Martin Sep 28, 2022
    Show notes

    Shannan Martin drops by the Untangled Faith podcast to talk with Amy Fritz about learning how to be a good neighbor. Amy shares how she was afraid Shannan might cause her to get in trouble with Amy's husband's former employer, Dave Ramsey.

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    Featured Guest

    • Shannan Martin


    Resources mentioned

    • This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

    • Start With Hello https://amzn.to/403XSva


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    56: Reorganized Religion with Bob Smietana Sep 21, 2022
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    Bob Smietana swings by the Untangled Faith podcast to talk to Amy about his new book, Reorganized Religion, how he was able to land an interview with Beth Moore that broke the news that she was no longer in the SBC, and his hope for the future of religion.

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    In this episode

    • Issues facing modern churches

    • "Only a fool fights in a burning house."

    • The Beth Moore interview
    • The need for organized religion

    Featured Guest

    • Bob Smietana, Religion Journalist


    Resources mentioned

    • This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled
    • Reorganized Religion https://amzn.to/3ZXcwEw


    Tell Your Friends!

    If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media.

    Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts

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    Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show?

    Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com

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    54: Silencing Strategies Used by Churches and Faith Organizations Aug 31, 2022
    Show notes

    Melissa J. Hogan joins Amy to share from Melissa's legal background insights on NDAs, confidentiality agreements, and other forms of silencing techniques that churches or faith-adjacent communities might use.

    Links:

    https://melissajhogan.com

    https://melissajhogan.medium.com

    https://twitter.com/melissajhogan

    https://twitter.com/melissajhogan/status/1361716852964151304

    Leave a review: https://podcasts.app.com/us/podcast/untangled-faith/id1561001170

    Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

    Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith

    Where you can find me: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz https://twitter.com/faithuntangled https://twitter.com/amyfritz https://facebook.com/untangledfaith

    This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling here: https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

    Host/Creator: Amy Fritz

    Producer: Michelle Pjanic


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