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Latest Episodes:

Sephora Teens and the Trials of Modern Girlhood Jul 09, 2025

Confused by the twelve year old girl in your life who wanted retinol for xmas? Well, she’s certainly not alone. These days, teens and tweens are lining up outside any neighborhood Sephora in search of a skincare fad designed for people more than a decade older. In this episode, journalist and podcaster Elise Hu helps us unpack the visible and invisible forces that make today’s young girls thirst for an unattainable perfection. We also look inward, examining the way the beauty industry shapes our sense of self worth and how, no matter the decade, the trials of girlhood stay the same.

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Welcome to Unruly Season 2 Jul 07, 2025

For as long as women have been recognized as a distinct group, their interests have been side-lined as “Women’s Issues,” “Women’s Topics,” and “Women’s Studies.” Though likely well-intended, the distinction proposes that women’s conversations are outside the mainstream and, thus, not centered as primary or important. Women know that's far from true. Unruly centers women – giving them the freedom to discuss unconventional and surprising topics and the opportunity to be their truest, most flamboyant selves. Because the conversations we're having are anything but dull.

At Flamingo, we believe that if women are talking about it, it’s important. So in this season of Unruly, we’ll have conversations with your favorite writers, thinkers and influencers about everything from dating in a recession, to the way TikTok is shaping girlhood, to consumer capitalism and how to survive your annual girls trip- plus much much more!

We’re carving out a little space for smart takes, hot takes, and a whole lot of truth-telling. Unruly season 2, tune in wherever you get your podcasts.

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Suffering in Silence Dec 20, 2023

Women are often taught to silence themselves and that can have damaging effects. On our last episode of the season, psychologist, writer and speaker Maytal Eyal joins host Kimberly Drew to discuss her Time Magazine article: “Self Silencing is Making Women Sick.” We get into Maytal’s research, what’s at stake when we don’t express ourselves fully, and how we can work together to fight against these toxic cultural norms.

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Don’t Hem Us In Dec 13, 2023

Female athletes have fought uphill battles for equity and respect for about as long as sports have existed. Their bodies and uniforms are under intense scrutiny from the public, the press and athletic institutions. In this episode, we talk to Olympic Shot-Putter Raven Saunders, who pushes back on archaic athletic dress code standards – she famously wears a Hulk mask when she competes. We get into her Olympic experience, what it means to push wardrobe boundaries, and how coming to peace with herself and her body is a huge part of how she expresses herself through clothes and through sports.

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Menopause and the Media Dec 06, 2023

How is it that menopause, something that can affect half the population, also manages to be among the most understudied and least understood bodily phenomena? This week, journalist Susan Dominus talks with host Kimberly Drew about how a landmark study on hormone therapy for menopausal women was misunderstood in the media creating panic and long-term repercussions on the way women’s symptoms were treated.

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To Freeze or Not to Freeze: High Tech Fertility Nov 29, 2023

Being a person with a uterus means you sometimes face the question of when, how, or if you’re going to have kids. This week, we hear from anthropologist and “The Mating Gap” author Marcia Inhorn, PhD, MPH, about the way society makes these decisions even harder for women today. We learn about the history and science behind egg freezing, as well as the real reason women are electing to delay pregnancy.

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Body Language Nov 22, 2023

Vaginal atrophy, geriatric pregnancy, incompetent cervix- why can medical terminology around women’s bodies be so shaming?! In this week’s episode, “Vagina Obscura” author Rachel E. Gross talks with host Kimberly Drew about the long shadow of the patriarchy over the medical profession. She walks us through how it’s shaped the way we talk about our bodies, how we understand vital body parts like the clitoris and the ways in which language impacts the treatment we receive as patients.

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The Beauty Industry: Diet Culture’s Fraternal Twin Nov 15, 2023

How do we decide which beauty products we use, and are those choices really our own? This week, writer and beauty culture critic Jessica DeFino, author of the Substack The Unpublishable, sheds light on the alarming power of the beauty industrial complex. She and Unruly host Kimberly Drew unpack terms like “anti-aging” and how we are sold products under the guise of empowerment. In this episode, we learn how to divest from the idea of external beauty as inherent self worth.

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Welcome to Unruly Nov 08, 2023

Welcome to Unruly. This season, host Kimberly Drew and a slew of smart guests tackle the quiet ways women’s bodies are regulated every day. From social media to the medical profession to entrenched societal assumptions about womanhood, we want to educate and support each other. Because information is power, and your body is your business.

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Social Media: The Body’s Big Brother Nov 08, 2023

Welcome to Unruly. We take the quiet ways women’s bodies are commodified, defined, regulated and we name them– out loud. In this week’s episode, host Kimberly Drew talks with Body Image coach Tiffany Ima (@tiffanyima) about how we learn to love ourselves in a world that still heralds thinness as greatness. We clear up the distinction between body neutrality and body positivity, call out diet culture trends, and unpack the sneaky ways social media keeps us dissatisfied with our physical appearance.

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