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Espionage in Iran, election manoeuvres in Israel - and unlikely football glory Jul 16, 2026

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The US-Iran war is back on. The ceasefire has collapsed, the naval blockade is reimposed, and Israel is asking if a moment is coming when the missiles turn its way. With Yonit away, Jonathan is joined by New Yorker writer Ruth Margalit to make sense of a dizzying week: a jaw-dropping report that the Mossad cultivated Mahmoud Ahmadinejad — yes, that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad — as an asset in a failed plot to topple the Iranian regime, and an election campaign in which Gadi Eisenkot is opening up a real lead over Benjamin Netanyahu. Can Mr. Security survive a race where even Likud voters might be drifting away? Plus: a World Cup dilemma for Jewish football fans, a Chutzpah award for a literary institution that forgot its own motto, and a Mensch that takes us to a Jerusalem cafe that refuses to close on Shabbat.

⏱ CHAPTERS:
[00:00] Intro
[01:02] England out — a World Cup dilemma for Jewish fans
[05:00] The US-Iran war is back on
[08:44] Why Netanyahu wants the shadow of war
[10:52] Congress votes on cutting aid to Israel
[15:24] The Mossad's Ahmadinejad plot
[21:30] Election set for October 27 — Eisenkot's rise
[29:39] Mansour Abbas gambles on running alone
[32:52] The Shin Bet investigates Channel 12
[40:16] Chutzpah & Mensch awards

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Jews and Football: a forgotten story - with David Bolchover Jul 14, 2026

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As football fans across the globe gear up for the World Cup final on Sunday, Jonathan talks to the author of a new book that uncovers a hidden story: the Jewish players who were once football’s biggest stars. David Bolchover reveals how it was Jewish footballers that dominated some of Europe’s best teams, reinventing much of the way the game is played - until they were brutally murdered in the Holocaust. Their phenomenal achievement has been all but forgotten, to the extent that many imagine “Jewish footballer” to be an oxymoron if not the punchline to a joke. Instead, it sheds light on an era of forgotten Jewish sporting glory - and the world that was extinguished in the Shoah

00:00 Introduction to Jewish Football History

03:08 The Role of Jews in Football Before the Holocaust

05:39 Zygmunt Sztoyanman: A Football Legend's Story

08:15 Josef Braun: The Hebrew Ronaldo

11:07 Political Affiliations of Jewish Football Clubs

13:57 The Evolution of Football Tactics and Jewish Influence

18:05 The Impact of the Holocaust on Jewish Footballers

19:11 Erasure of Jewish Football History

21:07 Legacy of Jewish Football in Modern Israel

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Bibi’s dash to remake Israel, Rahm Emanuel’s warning and a wedding to beat the odds Jul 09, 2026

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Donald Trump declares the Iran ceasefire dead, while a new poll has alarming news for Benjamin Netanyahu: New York's trenchantly anti-Israel mayor, Zohran Mamdani, is more popular with American Jews than he is.

This week, Yonit and Jonathan break down the collapse of the fragile Iran deal and why "amateur hour" US negotiators may have doomed it from the start. They unpack the Knesset's last-minute push to exempt the ultra-Orthodox from military service — as soldiers testify in tears about the price of a three-year war — as well as the less noisy bills eroding Israel’s judicial independence. Plus: Rahm Emanuel's blunt warning about Israel's "content problem," and the wedding of two returned hostages that gave the week its one unambiguously happy ending.

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Danielle Haas on NGOs, Antisemitism & Institutional Bias Jul 07, 2026

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A new report accuses the world's most trusted human rights organizations of a problem that goes far beyond anti-Israel bias: antisemitism, and a culture that pushes out Jewish staff for naming it. This week, Yonit and Jonathan talk to Danielle Haas, a former senior editor at Human Rights Watch who spent 14 years inside the organization before co-founding EiGHT, a watchdog created to scrutinize the watchdogs. Drawing on interviews with over 70 staffers across nine major NGOs, the report documents internal messages calling for "liberating the world from Zionism," leadership reposting inflammatory rhetoric, and a pattern of employees being sidelined the moment they raised concerns.

00:00 Introduction to the Conversation

01:30 Danielle Haas's Background and Experience

03:43 Insights from the New Report on NGOs

07:58 Striking Findings and Internal Messaging

11:31 Challenges Faced by Jewish Employees

17:19 Lack of Accountability in Human Rights Organizations

21:08 Cultural Shifts and Generational Changes

24:46 Association with Militant Organizations

27:20 The Future of Human Rights Organizations

33:00 Reflections on Personal Experience and Change

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1,000 Days, Election Maneuvers & America at 250 Jul 02, 2026

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A thousand days after October 7th — and Benjamin Netanyahu wants to talk about unity. This week, as Israel edges closer toward elections, Yonit and Jonathan discuss a prime minister campaigning on togetherness after- say his critics- a long career spent dividing Israelis against each other, and trace the strange alliance between Israel's nationalist right and the ultra-Orthodox parties who for the most part reject Zionism on principle.

Zohran Mamdani keeps doubling down on Israel and AIPAC, six months into his mayoralty — and sees no reason to slow down. And as America turns 250, Jonathan asks an uncomfortable question about what happens to a constitution when the people meant to enforce it simply don't.

Plus: our Chutzpah award goes to a finance minister taking credit for something he objected to while our Mensch of the week pulls off an unexpected feat of German diplomacy - and language.

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Jason Burke on Iran, Entebbe - and how to fight global terror Jun 30, 2026

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A wave of antisemitic terror swept across Western Europe this spring — and one man appears to have been behind it all. This week, Yonit and Jonathan hear the full, remarkable story as they sit down with Jason Burke, The Guardian's international security correspondent and terrorism expert. He describes how a single Iraqi-Iranian dual national is accused of leveraging both social media and teenage criminals to orchestrate what looked like a series of scattered attacks but was, in fact, a coordinated proxy campaign. And they discuss the broader questions: has the long arm of Iranian terror been constrained at all by US-Israeli military action? Did October 7th represent a strategic break from Iran's usual playbook — or was it a tactical aberration? And as the 50th anniversary of the raid on Entebbe approaches, was that operation a turning point in the long history of global terrorism - and what can be done now to beat back the menace of terror?

00:00 Introduction to Jason Burke and His Work

02:23 Profile of Mohammed Bakr Saad, Al-Sadi

05:13 Al-Sadi's Operations and Recruitment Methods

07:50 The Arrest of Al-Sadi and His Plans in the US

12:42 Impact of Al-Sadi's Arrest on Terror Operations

15:26 October 7th: An Evolution or Aberration in Terrorism?

19:06 The Role of Qatar in Terror Financing

22:55 Countering Terrorism: Challenges and Strategies

26:05 The Significance of the Entebbe Raid

30:03 Convergence of Leftist and Islamist Terrorism

33:01 The Evolution of Terrorism and Its Future

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Reality bites: Trump, Bibi and the Mamdani Effect Jun 25, 2026

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The new reality of Washington’s relationship with Israel is slowly sinking in — and it’s not pretty. As JD Vance grows visibly chummier with Qatar and Pakistan than with Israeli officials, Yonit and Jonathan discuss the likely impact of the shift and whether Israel’s old assumption — that an American president will always have its back — has to be discarded for good. Then: as the Mamdani effect ripples through New York’s primaries, sweeping in a slate of politicians sharply critical of Israel, the two debate who’s really to blame.

Plus: Keir Starmer’s resignation and likely successor, two former Israeli PMs along with a veritable platoon of former and current IDF commanders denounce settler violence in the West Bank - and a Jewish American comic genius reaches a milestone.

00:00 The World Cup and Jewish Connections

04:25 Israel's Changing Geopolitical Landscape

16:02 Shifts in American Politics and Israel's Position

24:04 The Nuances of Anti-Semitism and Political Shifts

29:13 Israeli Politics: Elections and Controversies

35:47 The Resignation of Keir Starmer and Its Implications

43:23 Celebrating Mel Brooks: A Comedy Legend

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Naftali Bennett Jun 22, 2026

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Israel just learned that the US and Iran have agreed to a deconfliction cell with Lebanon — and Israel wasn't in the room. As the dust settles on a war whose outcome is, at best, ambiguous, Yonit and Jonathan sit down with former Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, who wants his old job back.

Bennett doesn't hold back: on why he believes this government dragged out a war Israel was never built to fight, on the "infinite power of propaganda" keeping Netanyahu afloat three years after October 7th, and on whether he can trust Trump — or JD Vance — to look out for Israel's interests when Israel isn't at the table. He also lays out, in detail, what he'd do differently on the Haredi draft, the judiciary, the Palestinians, and Ben Gvir and Smotrich — and admits the polls aren't moving the way he hoped.

00:00 Introduction: Naftali Bennett joins Unholy
00:09 The Iran deal and the deconfliction cell with Lebanon
03:18 Would he have avoided this war altogether?
06:29 Did Netanyahu prolong the war for political reasons?
08:05 Trust in Trump and JD Vance on Iran
13:11 Reports the Trump administration is opening channels to him
15:19 What would actually change if Bennett became PM?
17:39 The Kogat story: improving Palestinian quality of life without a state
21:51 Pushback: is a two-state "spectrum" really viable?
24:06 Why he opposes full Palestinian sovereignty
24:39 Mansour Abbas and Arab parties in a Bennett coalition
26:52 Lapid, the polls, and stepping aside for Eisenkot
29:34 Judicial reform: would he continue where this government left off?
31:26 Why Ben Gvir and Smotrich are out
33:51 Fears of a "January 6th" scenario in Israel
36:16 Was joining forces with Lapid a mistake?
39:21 Did Bennett change, or did Israel change?
42:05 The story that brought him back: a scientist in tears
44:43 How is Netanyahu still in this race?

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E-Signed, Sealed, Delivered Jun 18, 2026

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As the U.S.-Iran Memorandum of Understanding is signed in Versailles — covering a ceasefire, sanctions relief, and billions in unfrozen assets, but saying nothing about uranium enrichment, centrifuges, ballistic missiles, or Iran's proxies — Israel is left reading a deal it wasn't part of and only received hours before Trump's signature. Yonit is joined this week by CNN senior global affairs analyst and Unholy co-author Bianna Golodryga, live from a New York celebrating the Knicks' first championship in 53 years, for a conversation about what this MOU actually says, what it doesn't, and what it means for a country that spent 40 days in shelters waiting for something better than this.

Plus: a Cornell sophomore makes headlines for the wrong reasons, and a design school in Israel sends wounded soldiers down a runway.

02:09 Responses to the MOU in Israel and the U.S.
06:59 Concerns from Israel Regarding the MOU
11:20 Netanyahu's Position and Reactions
17:24 Implications for U.S.-Israel Relations and Regional Dynamics
24:42 The Political Landscape of the Iran Deal
27:08 Consequences of the Ceasefire and Future Implications
28:56 Comparing Past and Present Iran Agreements
31:03 Economic Reactions and Military Posturing
32:49 The Changing Dynamics of U.S.-Israel Relations
35:28 Chutzpah: Cornell Sophomore Austin Franco
37:30 Mensch: Shenkar College Designs for Wounded Soldiers

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Nir Bar Dea on the New World Order, AI, and Israel's Risks Jun 16, 2026

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This week’s Unholy conversations is a rare interview with Nir Bar Dea, CEO of Bridgewater—the world's largest hedge fund. Bar Dea moves beyond market trends, framing our current moment as a volatile collision between a changing world order, and an unprecedented technological revolution fueled by AI. He offers a sobering perspective on why the comfort of the last several decades has perhaps left us less resilient than the generations before us, urging listeners to view history not as destiny, but as a lesson in the necessity of strength during turbulent times.

The conversation turns personal, too: Bar Dea talks about the toll of his own service in the Israeli Air Force, what it's like being Israeli in New York since October 7th, and why he believes Israel's younger generation might be its greatest asset.

00:00 Intro

01:10 The Iran-US deal and why timing doesn't matter

06:25 Trump as outcome, not cause

09:30 Tough love: why we feel overwhelmed

10:59 Israel's resilient next generation

24:49 The AI infrastructure race — and Israel's gap

27:11 Being Israeli in New York since October 7th

32:54 The hidden cost of IDF service

35:02 Bridgewater's radical transparency culture

41:51 Rebuilding from Nir Oz — a story of hope

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