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Desperation Grows Worldwide: When Will the War End? - with Thomas Friedman Jul 25, 2025

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As the war nears its 22nd month, the humanitarian crisis in Gaza deepens — with harrowing footage of children searching for food sparking growing outrage, even among Israel’s staunchest allies. Meanwhile, the Israeli government prepares to push forward a controversial draft bill, fuelling an already volatile political climate. This week, Yonit and Jonathan are joined by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Thomas Friedman for a wide-ranging conversation on the war, Donald Trump, his thoughts on the man who would be New York mayor: Zohran Mamdani and the question everyone’s asking: is there a way out?

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Netanyahu’s Clock of War, MAGA Turns on Israel, and Coalition Cracks - with Ilana Dayan Jul 17, 2025

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As the war in Gaza passes its 650th day, Yonit and Jonathan delve into the political and personal forces keeping the conflict going—from ceasefire talks that lead nowhere, to new revelations about Benjamin Netanyahu’s refusal to heed warnings ahead of October 7.

Plus: new cracks in Israel’s ruling coalition, how criticism of the country is now coming from the American MAGA right, what’s behind the latest IDF strikes on Syria—and the return of one of Unholy’s favourite guests, the legendary Israeli journalist Ilana Dayan.

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Netanyahu in DC, stuttering ceasefire talks, and a conversation with Rachel Goldberg-Polin Jul 11, 2025

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As the war in Gaza grinds on, Yonit and Jonathan unpack the politics behind Prime Minister Netanyahu’s visit to Washington and the fragile state of ceasefire and hostage negotiations. They discuss the plan for Gaza proposed by Israel’s defence minister that has stirred trenchant opposition inside and outside the country - and the military draft bill splitting an already divided Knesset.

They are also joined by Rachel Goldberg-Polin, whose son Hersh was murdered while a captive of Hamas, for a conversation about grief, belief and the future of Israel.

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Gaza Ceasefire Talks, Israel–Iran Fallout… and bad chords at Glastonbury Jul 03, 2025

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This week, Jonathan returns to the podcast as he and Yonit assess the public mood in Israel in the aftermath of the war with Iran, the ongoing conflict in Gaza and renewed talk of a potential ceasefire.

They also discuss the political fallout at home and abroad —including a moment at the Glastonbury music festival that saw a collision of protest and prejudice.

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New Middle East? With Guest Host Nuseir Yassin (Nas Daily) Jun 26, 2025

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As the dust settles from the war between Israel and Iran, Yonit sits down with Nuseir Yassin to unpack what just happened—and what it all means. From shifting regional power dynamics to the role of social media in shaping global narratives, they go deep on war, peace, and the politics of perception.

They also touch on the democratic mayoral elections in New York, the conflicts elsewhere that could either ignite or resolve in the coming years, and—above all—ask what future the region might still have. Is there room for cautious optimism, or are we simply bracing for the next round?

Nuseir Yassin is a Palestinian‑Israeli video creator and entrepreneur best known as Nas Daily, the one‑minute daily vlogging phenomenon. Born in Arraba, Israel, he earned a Harvard degree in economics (with a minor in CS), then quit his Venmo software job in 2016 to launch a 1,000‑day video run that earned him over 13 million YouTube subscribers and billions of views. He’s since founded Nas Company—home to Nas Studios and Nas Academy—building a global creator ecosystem grounded in storytelling and cultural understanding .

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What really happened to Iran's nuclear program? with Zohar Palti Jun 25, 2025

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The Israel–Iran war may be behind us, for now, but one of the most critical questions is only just beginning to surface: what really happened to Iran’s nuclear program?

To begin unpacking that, Yonit spoke with someone uniquely positioned to offer insight: Zohar Palti, former Head of the Political-Military Bureau at Israel’s Ministry of Defense and a longtime senior official in the Mossad. With years of experience at the heart of Israel’s security establishment, Palti helps us explore what’s known, what’s rumored, and what may still be unfolding behind the scenes.

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Trump strikes Iran: a conversation with General Yoav Gallant, former Israeli defence minister Jun 23, 2025

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A few hours after the U.S. Army, under orders from President Donald Trump, bombed Iran’s nuclear facilities, Yonit sat down for an in-depth conversation with former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant. They discussed the ongoing operation in Iran, the aftermath of October 7th, the ICC arrest warrant—and even found a glimpse of optimism for the region’s future.

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Israel-Iran war: Will Trump strike? with Amos Hochstein and Bianna Golodryga Jun 19, 2025

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Special episodes from the past week:

On life in Iran with Beni Sabti (17/6)

Sunday Update with Amos Harel (15/6)

Friday update with dr. Suzanne Maloney (13/6)

It’s day seven of the Israel-Iran war, and the world is waiting on President Trump’s next move. Will he or won’t he strike Iran’s Fordow nuclear facility.

Yonit is joined this week by CNN anchor and senior global affairs analyst Bianna Golodryga; together they speak with former senior adviser to President Biden, Amos Hochstein, about what could happen if the U.S. joins the war.

Plus: a chutzpah award you’ll enjoy, and a next-generation mensch.

Amos Hochstein is a veteran American diplomat and energy expert who has served as the U.S. Special Presidential Coordinator for Global Infrastructure and Energy Security. Known for his deep involvement in Middle East affairs, Hochstein has advised multiple administrations on strategic energy and security issues, including delicate negotiations across the region.

Bianna Golodryga is an acclaimed journalist and television anchor, currently serving as a senior global affairs analyst at CNN.

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On life in Iran with Beni Sabti Jun 17, 2025

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Day five of the war with Iran, and the world is holding its breath. With President Trump abruptly leaving the G7 and urging Tehran’s citizens to evacuate, the next chapter remains uncertain — escalation or ceasefire? Yonit speaks with Beni Sabti, an expert on Iran, to look beyond the headlines, to explore what life looks like for ordinary Iranians: under fire, and under a theocracy that has shaped daily reality for nearly half a century.

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Israel-Iran war: Sunday update with Amos Harel Jun 15, 2025

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After a night marked by a deadly Iranian attack that claimed the lives of Israeli civilians, Yonit sat down with military analyst Amos Harel for an update on the current situation and a look at what might unfold in the days ahead.

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