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    Uncomfy: Sticking with Moments That Challenge Us

    Real stories from guests who dared to get uncomfortable in a moment that challenged their worldview. In the thick of intense emotions, they chose to stay curious and open, rather than lash out or shy away, and came out the other side with stronger relationships, clearer beliefs, and increased confidence. And you can do it too!

    So, if you:
    • Want to engage with others on important topics but aren’t sure how,
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    • Are burned out on social media and wish you could bring the humanity back into discussions online or in real life,

    Look no further! Whether you’re a seasoned seeker of new ideas or just dipping your toes into the uncomfy waters, this podcast is your go-to destination for learning how to improve your communication, disagree more productively, and be a more inspired leader.

    In such a polarized world, we believe learning how to stick with moments that challenge us, without getting defensive or shutting down, is a direct antidote for division.
    Are you ready to lean in, listen up, and get uncomfy with us? Let’s dive in together!

    Uncomfy: Sticking with Moments that Challenge Us is hosted by journalist Julie Rose and is a BYUradio production.

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    What an Autism Diagnosis Taught This Father and Son – Harry and Gus Psaros Aug 05, 2026
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    An autism diagnosis changed everything for Harry and Gus Psaros—but not in the way they expected. Together, this father and son share an honest conversation about fear, hope, parenting, and what happens when you stop focusing on limitations and start looking for possibility. ABOUT GUESTS Harry Psaros is the author of “From Struggle to Strength”, a memoir about raising his son Gus after he was diagnosed with autism at age 3 (https://www.harrypsaros.com/). Gus Psaros is a recent Kent State University graduate pursuing a career in physical therapy. CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:41) Diagnosis Drive Home (3:21) Early Signs and Denial (5:06) Gus on Being Different (6:49) Kindness as Superpower (7:55) Setbacks (9:24) Brain Balance Breakthrough (11:07) Finding Balance and Burnout (11:58) Senior Year and College Leap (14:38) Gus’ Vision Board and Big Goals (15:24) Calling on Dads to Step Up (18:27) Conclusion


    What Happens When You Lose Something You Can't Replace? – Elizabeth Gruebel Jul 29, 2026
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    What would you do if something that connected you to someone you loved disappeared forever? Marriage and family therapist Elizabeth Gruebel shares the heartbreaking story of returning home to discover she'd been robbed and that the one item she treasured above everything else, her late father's Bronze Star, was gone forever. At first, the loss felt unbearable. But over time, Elizabeth discovered something unexpected: the values, courage, and integrity she associated with her father had never lived in the medal—they had become part of her. ABOUT GUEST Elizabeth Gruebel is a marriage and family therapist and a professor of human development and family science at the University of Rhode Island (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grz8axNdgOg). CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:47) Meet Elizabeth Gruebel (1:17) The Robbery (3:25) Losing Dad So Young (4:21) Finding the Treasure Trunk (6:28) What the Star Meant (7:52) Grief and Letting Go (9:21) Narrative Therapy and Re-storying (11:35) Avoiding Villains and Victims (13:24) Integrating the Lesson (15:07) Conclusion


    The Secret to Getting More Done (Without Burning Out) – Elizabeth Svoboda Jul 22, 2026
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    If you've ever felt guilty for resting, struggled with burnout, or wondered how to sustain meaningful work without sacrificing your well-being, this conversation is for you. In this episode, award-winning science writer Elizabeth Svoboda shares how years of overwork, anxiety, and burnout led her to rethink everything she believed about productivity. Drawing on the research behind her book, “The Art of Pacing,” she explains why elite athletes rest and recover as intentionally as they train and why the rest of us should, too. ABOUT GUEST Elizabeth Svoboda is an award-winning science writer and the author of “The Art of Pacing,” a guide to building a more sustainable, fulfilling approach to work and life (https://elizabethsvoboda.com/). Hero's Journey Restorying Intervention - https://bostoncollege.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_724BzzxcIUzIEku CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (1:21) College Burnout Spiral (2:36) The Do More Mindset (3:40) Anxiety and the Quick Fix (6:18) From Time Management to Pacing (8:19) Energy Management Rhythms (9:44) Athletes and Recovery Lessons (11:27) Re-storying (13:14) Advice to Younger Self (14:21) Conclusion


    How to Love and Support a First Responder – Erin Nugent Jul 15, 2026
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    First responders care for people on the worst days of their lives, but they can carry those experiences with them long after the call is over. As both the spouse of a firefighter and a former police detective, Erin Nugent has experienced the realities of first responder life from two sides. She shares about the time she got the late-night text every first responder's spouse fears, why more first responders die by suicide than in the line of duty, and how loved ones can best support them. ABOUT GUEST Erin Nugent is a former Australian police detective and certified life and wellness coach who helps first responders and their families navigate trauma, resilience, and mental health. She is the host of the podcast “I Will Hold Space for Your Darkness” and the radio show “Holding Space” on the Thin Line Rock Station (https://www.erinjanecoaching.com/). CHAPTERs (0:00) Introduction (0:51) Meet Erin Nugent (1:33) The Text (5:31) What Others Miss (7:49) Trauma and Coping (10:42) Three Ps Practices (12:06) Supporting at Home (15:04) Why She Served (16:56) Conclusion


    Former First Lady of Iceland on How to Trust Yourself When There's No Rulebook - Eliza Reid Jul 08, 2026
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    When Eliza Reid’s husband unexpectedly became president of Iceland, she found herself in a role with no instruction manual—forcing her to confront self-doubt, challenge outdated expectations, and learn how to trust her own voice. In this conversation, Eliza reflects on why being a lifelong rule follower made the job unexpectedly difficult, why she embraced secondhand clothing and spoke Icelandic despite her accent, and how leaning into discomfort ultimately helped her grow into the role. ABOUT GUEST Eliza Reid is a Canadian-born writer, gender equality advocate, and the former First Lady of Iceland, where she served from 2016–2024 alongside her husband, President Guðni Th. Jóhannesson. Her latest book is, “The First Lady Next Door: A Memoir of Iceland, Identity, and Unexpected Adventure” (https://elizareid.com/). CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:49) Meet Eliza Reid (1:40) The Handshake Snub (3:19) From Canada to Iceland (5:11) Iceland President Explained (7:44) No Rulebook (9:44) Style Spotlight Pressure (12:16) Immigrant Identity Voice (13:47) Speaking Out NYT Op-Ed (16:40) Taking Up Space (17:11) What She’s Proud Of (19:28) Conclusion


    A PhD Student's Honest Confession About ChatGPT – Christian Carmody Jul 01, 2026
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    When ChatGPT first appeared, Christian Carmody found himself facing an uncomfortable question: If AI could do much of the work for him, why not use it? As a stressed PhD student juggling graduate school, multiple jobs, a new baby, and financial pressure, the temptation was real. But what started as a question about academic integrity became a deeper conversation about learning, intellectual character, trust, and what we risk losing when AI does our thinking for us. ABOUT GUEST Christian Carmody is a PhD candidate in Education at the University of New Hampshire and a Senior Researcher at the nonprofit Research Institute for Learning and Development. CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:40) Meet Christian Carmody (1:25) ChatGPT in a Crunch (2:54) Where to Draw Lines (4:31) Nietzsche and Struggle (7:27) Judging AI Ideas (12:10) Trust in an AI World (14:10) Teaching Intellectual Character (16:48) Conclusion


    I Thought Gen Z Had It Easier. I Was Wrong. - Sean Murphy Jun 24, 2026
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    Many adults assume today's young people have it easier than previous generations. Sean Murphy used to think something similar until a classroom discussion stopped him in his tracks. In this episode. Sean reflects on the uncomfortable moment that forced him to listen more closely, rethink long-held beliefs, and see a new generation through a different lens. Along the way, he shares what he learned from hundreds of poems written by young people about hope, resilience, and the future they're inheriting. ABOUT GUEST Sean Murphy is director of the Center for Story at Shenandoah University and founder of 1455, a nonprofit dedicated to nurturing writers and building community through storytelling. Learn more about their Young Poets Anthology here: https://1455litarts.org/ypa/ CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:42) Meet Sean Murphy (1:30) The Compliment That Backfired (2:47) Bullying in 2026 (3:34) Checking Our Assumptions (6:01) What Young People Carry (8:28) Hope in Young Poets (9:40) “How to Unburn the World” (12:16) Inspired to Do More (12:51) Conclusion


    "You're Not You Anymore": Facing Alzheimer's Head-On – Dr. Anthony Goodman Jun 17, 2026
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    After decades as a surgeon, professor, and medical expert, Dr. Anthony Goodman found himself facing an unexpected diagnosis: early Alzheimer's disease. In this conversation, Dr. Goodman and his wife, Maribeth, share what it was like to recognize the signs, receive the diagnosis, navigate treatment, and redefine life as a family. They discuss the difficult moment their daughter urged Dr. Goodman to seek help, the emotional challenge of moving from doctor to patient, and the surprising hope they found through early intervention and new Alzheimer's treatments. They offer an honest look at caregiving, stigma, identity, and the importance of talking openly about dementia. ABOUT GUEST Dr. Anthony Goodman is a former surgeon and medical educator. His new memoir, “Great Saves and Terrible Losses: The Journeys of a Surgeon,” chronicles both his decades-long career in medicine and his journey after being diagnosed with early Alzheimer's disease. He is joined by his wife of over four decades, Maribeth. You can learn more about the book and find various Alzheimer's resources at his website: https://anthonyagoodman-author.com/. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction 00:46 Meet Dr Anthony Goodman and Maribeth 01:34 Early Signs and Family Concern 04:34 From Normal Aging to Dementia 05:58 Getting Alzheimer's Diagnosis 08:29 Treatments and Early Intervention 10:36 Sharing the News with Loved Ones 12:29 Still A Doctor in a Crisis 14:26 Writing to Destigmatize Dementia 15:56 Conclusion


    How Can You Rebuild a Broken Friendship? – Pete O’Dell Jun 10, 2026
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    Would you rekindle a friendship with someone you considered dead to you? In this episode, our guest Pete O’Dell shares the story of reconnecting with a once-inseparable friend after years of silence and resentment and why sending one uncomfortable email changed everything. Pete also shares why he does a yearly friendship assessment, why the maximum number of friends you can have is 150, and why making friends as an adult is so difficult. ABOUT GUEST Pete O’Dell is a retired tech executive, author of “Dying for Friendship and Community,” and co-founder of Conexus, a platform designed to help people build meaningful real-world friendships (https://getconexus.com). CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:30) Meet Pete O’Dell (1:02) Rekindling a Broken Friendship (2:49) The Email That Worked (3:47) Dunbar’s Number Explained (5:39) Friendship Circles (6:43) Annual Friendship Assessment (8:53) Community Groups Matter (10:34) Why Making Friends Is Hard (11:28) Building Conexus (13:41) Friendship as Lifeline (15:36) Conclusion


    Finding Your Worth After Hitting Rock Bottom – Jane Chen Jun 03, 2026
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    What happens when your entire sense of worth is tied to achievement? Jane Chen spent years pushing herself to the limit: working nonstop, chasing impact, and trying to prove she was enough. From the outside, she looked wildly successful: she co-founded a company whose life-saving infant incubators would eventually help over one million babies around the world. But internally, she was exhausted, disconnected, and falling apart. In this episode, Jane shares how burnout forced her to confront the childhood trauma, perfectionism, and fear of failure that had been driving her for decades. She talks about the uncomfortable process of slowing down, healing, and learning self-compassion for the first time. ABOUT GUEST Jane Chen is a leadership coach and keynote speaker. She is the co-founder of Embrace, whose life-saving infant incubator has helped over one million babies worldwide. Her new memoir is “Like a Wave We Break” (https://www.janemariechen.com/). CHAPTERS (0:00) Introduction (0:48) Meet Jane Chen (1:24) Building Embrace (2:26) Hitting Rock Bottom (3:29) High Highs Unhealthy Drive (5:41) Extreme Healing Quest (7:42) Uncovering Trauma (10:07) Being Enough (11:39) Self Compassion Redefines Resilience (12:49) Inner Child Breakthrough (15:23) Embrace Returns (16:17) Catching Waves Taking Risks (17:42) Conclusion


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