True Crime

Two Crime Besties

Debriefing true crime stories with crime buffs Meg and Emma. Each week we take a look at a different case and discuss our thoughts and opinions with a touch of humour and respect.

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Episode 89 - Robert Hansen: The Butcher Baker Part 2 of 2 May 18, 2026

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Summary:

This is part two and the conclusion of our series on Robert Hansen: The Butcher Baker and Alaskan Serial Killer.

In this episode we explore his MO, his victims, and the investigative breakthroughs that brought him to justice. It highlights the importance of profiling, police work, and survivor stories in solving serial murders.

Keywords:

true crime, Robert Hansen, Alaska, serial killer, criminal profiling, FBI, victim stories, forensic investigation

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The content of this podcast is intended for mature audiences. The topics discussed may contain sensitive material related to real-life crimes, violence, and distressing events that may be disturbing or triggering. All opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and do not reflect the views of any organisations or entities associated with the production.

While we strive to provide accurate and factual information, true crime stories may involve speculation, theories, and varying interpretations of events. Some details may be presented in a way that is meant to engage and educate rather than to sensationalise.

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Chapters:
0:01 - AI and Perimenopausal Knees0:08 - Weather and Personal Anecdotes1:31 - Documentary Discussion: Should I Marry a Murderer?2:41 - Spoiler Alert and Documentary Summary5:18 - Cindy Paulson's Story7:33 - Police Investigation and Challenges14:46 - Impact on Families and Community19:25 - Butcher Baker of Alaska: Part Two23:38 - Victim Stories and Investigation Details30:09 - Confession and Legal Proceedings
50:34 - Conclusion and Next Episode Teaser

Episode 88 - Robert Hansen: The Butcher Baker Part 1 of 2 May 11, 2026

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Summary:

This is part one of our two-part series on Robert Hansen:the Butcher Baker. In this episode we explore this chilling case in Alaska, delving into Robert Hansen’s early life, psychological profile, and the series of crimes prior to him being identified as The Butcher Baker. Join us for part two where we will discuss his victims and uncover the patterns, and the remarkable detective work that brought his reign of terror to an end.

Keywords:

True Crime, Robert Hansen, Alaska, Serial Killer, Psychological Profile, Crime Investigation, Forensic Psychology, Butcher Baker

Sources and other links

Butcher Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer, by Walter Gilmour and Leland E. Hale

Butcher Baker: Mind of a Monster, Documentary, Prime Video

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Chapters:

00:00 Celebrating Milestones and Family Life

26:10 The Butcher Baker of Alaska: A Dark Journey

39:06 Robert's Troubled Early Life

40:04 The Short-Lived Marriage and Its Fallout

40:57 The Arson Incident: A Cry for Help

42:54 Psychological Profile and Early Warning Signs

45:06 Failed Interventions and Missed Opportunities

50:03 Building a New Life in Alaska

54:51 The Dark Side of Success: A Baker's Dual Life

01:00:47 The Emergence of a Predator

01:06:08 Escalation of Violence and Police Inaction

01:12:09 The Role of Women in Law Enforcement

01:16:47 The First Victim and the Search for Justice

Episode 87 - The Tylenol Murders May 04, 2026

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Summary:

In this episode, we delve into the shocking case of the 1982 Tylenol murders, exploring the tampering that led to multiple deaths, the corporate response by Johnson & Johnson, and the lasting changes in product safety laws it prompted. We also analyze the suspects, the investigation, and the broader implications of this unprecedented crime.

Keywords:

Tylenol, Tylenol Murders, Chicago, Poisoning, Cyanide, extortion, James Lewis, public panic

Sources and other links

Cold Case: The Tylenol Murders, Documentary, Netflix

Panic In A Pill: The True Story Of The Tylenol Killings And The Hunt For A Phantom Killer (2025): Explores the investigation, the Janus family murders, and the resulting media frenzy.

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Episode 86 - Reynhard Sinaga: The Serial Rapist Apr 27, 2026

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Summary:

In this episode we explore the heinous crimes of Reynard Sinaga, a serial rapist whose actions shocked the UK and Indonesia. We delve into his background, methods, the investigation, and the impact on victims, highlighting the importance of awareness and justice.

Keywords:

Reynard Sinaga, serial rape, sexual violence, UK crime, Indonesia, victim support, legal justice, police investigation, mental health

Sources and other links

Surviving Sinaga , Documentary, 2020, AppleTV

Catching a Predator, Documentary, BBC

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Holiday Vibes

11:52 Community Support and Patreon Shoutouts

15:57 Trigger Warning and Case Introduction

16:52 Reynard Sinaga's Background and Early Life

20:39 Education and Academic Journey

24:42 Living in Manchester and Personal Struggles

34:42 The Assault and Immediate Aftermath

44:03 Unravelling the Investigation

47:22 The Horrific Evidence

52:25 The Modus Operandi of a Predator

56:36 The Trials and Their Impact

01:04:45 The Sentencing and Public Reaction

01:10:56 The Response and Ongoing Concerns

Episode 85 - The Adelaide Family Murders Part 2 of 2 Apr 20, 2026

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Summary:

This is the second and final episode on the Adelaide FamilyMurders. In this episode we delve into the chilling details of Richard Kelvin’s murder as the turning point in the case. We discuss the involvement of Bevan Spencer Von Einem and explore the possibilities of others who may have been involved in all the murders and the many other heinous crimes linked tothis case. We look at the investigation, key evidence, and the network of individuals known as The Family.

Keywords:

South Australia murders, Richard Kelvin, Bevan Spencer VonEinem, criminal investigation, true crime, unsolved cases, serial killers, forensic evidence, police investigation, crime network

Sources and other links

Young Blood: The Story of the Family Murders, by Bob O’Brien

Banquet: The Untold story of Adelaide’s Family Murders, by Debi Marshall

Debi Marshall Investigates: Frozen Lies, Documentary, Foxtel.

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and updates

11:47 The Family Murders in South Australia: Richard Kelvin's Case

31:40 Media Attention and Public Awareness

32:38 The Nature of the Kidnapping

34:31 Forensic Evidence and Investigation

37:19 The Suspect Emerges

43:46 The Trial Begins

49:28 The Background of Bevan Spencer Von Einem

53:26 Circumstantial Evidence and Arrest

56:16 The Appeal Process

59:01 The Family and the Investigation

01:01:40 The Untold Victims

01:02:09 The Role of Mr. B

01:06:04 The Delivery Service of Horror

01:10:36 Diaries of the Damned

01:14:02 The Network of Perpetrators

01:18:36 The Unsolved Mysteries

01:21:49 The Beaumont Case Connection

01:27:33 The Call for Justice

01:30:17 Closing Thoughts and Future Cases

Episode 84 - The Adelaide Family Murders Part 1 of 2 Apr 13, 2026

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Summary:

In part one of this two-part series, we delve into the chilling family murders in Adelaide between 1979 and 1983. In this episode we focus on the victims, the MO of the crimes linking them, witnesses and suspected perpetrator/s. We close out this episode on before the turning point in the case. Join us as we uncover the dark secrets behind these brutal crimes and discuss the broader implications of these crimes.

Keywords:

True Crime, Adelaide Murders, Family Murders, Cold Cases, Australian Crime, Forensic Evidence, Criminal Investigation, Unsolved Crimes, Crime Analysis, Justice System

Sources and other links

Young Blood: The Story of the Family Murders, by Bob O’Brien

Banquet: The Untold Story of Adelaide’s Family Murders, by Debi Marshall

Debi Marshall Investigates: Frozen Lies, Documentary, Foxtel.

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Celebrations

02:48 Easter Reflections and Family Dynamics

08:51 Artemis 2 Launch and Space Exploration

11:56 The Dish and Australian Contributions to Space

20:52 Merch Update and Listener Engagement

22:04 Introduction to the Family Murders

24:45 Context of Adelaide and Crime Rates

27:40 Overview of the Family Murders

32:43 The First Case: Alan Barnes

39:13 The Tragic Discovery

42:33 Neil Muir's Story

56:04 The Case of Peter Stognaff

01:03:59 Mark Langley's Mysterious Disappearance

01:12:23 Patterns of Violence and Investigation

REPLAY - Episode 39 - Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo: The Ken and Barbie Killers Apr 06, 2026

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This is a replay of a popular old episode while we take a short break over the Easter. We hope you enjoy revisiting this old episode or discovering an episode from prior to you finding us!

Summary:

In this episode we delve into the chilling case of Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo, exploring the disturbing dynamics of their relationship, the heinous crimes they committed, and the subsequent legal proceedings. The discussion highlights thepsychological aspects of their actions, the impact on the victims and their families, and the failures of the justice system in addressing the severity of their crimes. Through a detailed examination of the events, the conversation raises questions about morality, complicity, and the nature of evil.

Keywords:

Karla Homolka, Paul Bernardo, Ken and Barbie Killers, true crime, Canadian crime, psychological manipulation, sexual assault, family dynamics, serial killers, psychological analysis, victimology, criminal justice, murder.

Sources and other links

Canadian True Crime, Podcast - Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo ⁠Part 1⁠ & ⁠Part 2⁠

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates

02:33 The Dynamics of Sleepovers and Parenting

08:56 Introducing the Axolotl: A New Family Member

11:49 Listener Engagement and Support for the Podcast

14:32 Transitioning to the Case: Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo

17:35 Karla Homolka: Early Life and Family Background

23:49 Paul Bernardo: A Troubled Upbringing

35:54 The Intersection of Karla and Paul: A Dangerous Pairing

37:53 The Rise of the Scarborough Rapist

42:55 The Meeting of Paul and Karla

47:42 The Control and Manipulation in Their Relationship

52:52 The Proposal and Shift in Dynamics

57:39 The Tragic Death of Tammy Homolka

01:02:35 The Assault on Jane Doe

01:09:15 The Murder of Leslie Mahaffey

01:17:54 The Contrast of Celebration and Tragedy

01:20:11 The Escalation of Violence

01:23:14 The Horrors of Kidnapping and Assault

01:27:36 The Psychological Dynamics of Karla and Paul

01:31:19 The Investigation and Arrest

01:36:07 The Plea Deal and Its Controversies

01:43:17 Trials and Sentencing

01:50:08 Life After Conviction

Episode 83 - David and Catherine Birnie: The Moorhouse Murders Mar 30, 2026

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Summary:

In this episode we explore the disturbing case of David andCatherine Birnie, delving into their traumatic childhoods, criminal histories, and the chilling five-week killing spree in 1986. Learn about the psychological factors, family dynamics, and criminal behaviours that led to these tragic events. We also highlight the inspiring efforts of Kate Moir, whose advocacy led to legal reforms to prevent future tragedies.

Keywords:

true crime, David and Catherine Birnie, criminal psychology,childhood trauma, 1986 Perth murders, family violence, criminal behaviour, forensic psychology true crime, serial killers, WA crimes, victim advocacy, legal reform, psychological analysis, crime investigation

Sources and other links

Crime Investigation AustraliaSeason 1, Episode 6 ("The Moorhouse Horrors")

"Case 31: The Killer Couple". Casefile: True Crime Podcast.

Killer Couple: David and Catherine Birnie, Australian Families of Crime, TV Series

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Upcoming Break

11:55 Shoutouts and Listener Engagement

12:51 The Case of David and Catherine Burnie

16:05 Childhoods of David and Catherine

22:05 The Impact of Trauma on Their Lives

28:53 Reconnection and Criminal Activities

33:58 Catherine's Marriage and Family Life

39:58 David's Dark Transformation

42:14 The Cycle of Abuse

47:57 The Descent into Crime

53:30 The First Victim: Mary Nielsen

01:00:14 The Second Victim: Susanna Candy

01:02:58 The Third Victim: Noeline Patterson

01:09:06 The Fourth Victim: Denise Brown

01:12:18 The Horrific Crimes Unfold

01:13:23 The Role of a Key Witness

01:14:47 The Abduction of Kate Moir

01:19:55 The Escape and Aftermath

01:23:57 The Investigation and Arrest

01:29:13 Sentencing and Prison Life

01:34:52 The Impact of Kate's Law

01:39:33 Reflections on the Psychological Dynamics

01:45:26 Concluding Thoughts and Listener Engagement

Episode 82 - Carly Ryan: Australia's first Catfishing Murder Mar 23, 2026

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Summary:

In this episode we explore the tragic case of Carly Ryan, highlighting the dangers of online grooming, the importance of parental vigilance, and legislative changes inspired by her story. Join us as we discuss the case details, online safety, and the legacy of Carly's mother in advocating for children's safety.

Keywords:

Carly Ryan, online grooming, internet safety, parental control, legislation, Carly Ryan Foundation, true crime, cyber safety, child protection, Australia

Sources and other links

The Carly Ryan Foundation

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates

10:59 The Importance of Online Safety for Teens

19:51 Carly Ryan: A Brief Background

35:35 Carly's 15th Birthday Party and Its Aftermath

37:27 The Infatuation and Inappropriate Advances

39:49 Sonia's Protective Measures

41:08 Shane's Malignant Narcissism

42:03 The Dangerous Reunion

43:48 The Disappearance of Carly

45:25 The Discovery of Carly's Body

47:20 The Investigation Begins

49:31 CCTV Footage and Key Evidence

54:31 The Trial and Its Controversies

59:04 The Legacy of Carly's Law

01:02:29 Sonia's Advocacy and the Carly Ryan Foundation

01:06:25 The Importance of Parental Awareness

01:08:48 Understanding Vulnerability in Teens

01:13:06 Conclusion and Call to Action

Episode 81 - Elizabeth Smart Mar 16, 2026

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Summary:

In this episode we explore the harrowing case of ElizabethSmart, who was kidnapped at age 14 and endured nine months of captivity. Wedelve into the details of her rescue, the perpetrators' backgrounds, and herinspiring journey to recovery and advocacy.

Keywords:

Elizabeth Smart, kidnapping, child safety, trauma recovery,criminal psychology, Emmanuel, Brain David Mitchell, Wanda Barzee, childadvocacy, survivor story

Sources and other links

Elizabeth Smart Foundation

Elizabeth Smart Book

Elizabeth Smart Netflix Documentary 2026

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