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S E114: CMA Fest Disaster Stories, Morgan Wallen Drama & Schoolyard Fights :: Ep 114 Try That in a Small Town Podcast Jun 22, 2026

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From bar-hopping at CMA Fest with Jason Aldean’s band to scheduled high school fights at 3 pm sharp, this episode of Try That in a Small Town is all about chaos, consequences, and the crazy ways we somehow survive it all.

The guys kick things off with surgery scars, locked-up backs, and near misses in the garage, then pivot into behind-the-scenes CMA Fest stories, in-ear monitor nightmares, and why late-night stadium sets grind down even veteran players. They talk Morgan Wallen flipping pianos and throwing phones, Taylor Swift’s historic new country single tied to Toy Story 5, and how modern country production has become so “perfect” it’s almost personality-free.

Things get heavier when they unpack the Carmelo Anthony/Austin Metcalf stabbing at a track meet, race narratives in the media, and what real self-defense is—and isn’t—when someone pulls a knife. They contrast that with a powerful small-town hero story: a Gwinnett County officer who saves a 7-year-old launched through a windshield.

In classic TTIAST fashion, the crew rounds it out with songwriting pet peeves, delusional DMs from strangers wanting co-writes and video calls, bullying stories that still haunt them, and how golf, TV binges, and pizza reviews are getting them through recovery.

01:30 Surgeries, brutal bruises, allergic reactions to bandages and upcoming product bans in Tennessee

04:40 Locked-up back on the toilet, crawling across the house and day-three recovery status

06:30 Surviving CMA Fest: bar crawl sets, in-ear monitor disasters and playing blind on stage

09:45 Bar energy vs stadium distance and podcast fans popping up at shows

11:15 Late-night stadium headlining slot, fried fans, and what TV does to show times

14:00 Original Glory and Patriot Mobile sponsor segments

15:10 Learning piano one-handed after surgery, Jingle Bells, and mining TV shows for song ideas

17:50 TV recs: Life After Lockup, The Invisible Pilot, and Cape Fear reboot

20:20 NBA and Stanley Cup talk: Knicks’ huge comeback, Wembanyama, and why some tuned out the NBA

22:45 Trump at the Garden, celebrity courtside culture, and politics vs respect for the office

24:40 Taylor Swift’s Toy Story 5 country single and the business behind her return to the format

29:00 Why modern country records all sound the same and the few acts still using their own bands

31:40 Morgan Wallen: “I Ain’t Coming Back” lyric love, phone toss, piano flip and Billy Joel’s defense

36:30 Wild private plane trip with Morgan Wallen, crass “rich buddies” and what stuck with Kalo

38:20 Post-surgery meds, apologizing to Neil, and the nurse/dong/stripper one-liner

41:10 Group shave before a heart cath and hospital humor

42:00 CMA Fest nights with Luke Bryan at his bar, tequila overload and four-day hangovers

44:10 Dipshits of the week: insane video chat requests, song pitches, and social media entitlement

47:00 Fans demanding co-writes and “brain picking” vs actually earning a seat at the table

50:40 The worst song “idea” ever: Cats in the Cradle… but backwards

55:00 Young writers sliding into DMs, asking for writes and coffees, and basic industry etiquette

58:40 Nearly gassing yourself in a closed garage while checking mixes: calling dipshit on yourself

1:01:40 Drone-rescue story: Apache down, surviving in the water and next-level military tech

1:05:30 Golf injuries, steroids on the road, and fighting to stay in playing shape

1:07:10 The Carmelo Anthony–Austin Metcalf stabbing: facts, sentencing and race narratives

1:12:10 Media framing, self-defense vs murder, and how race gets injected into every case

1:16:00 Scheduled school fights at the park, bus brawls and why nobody brought knives back then

1:19:40 Getting drilled in the face for knocking a kid’s basketball away: lesson learned

1:20:30 One cold jab to the nose and understanding when you’ve gone too far

1:22:10 The bully who made you fast: getting wrecked in pickup football and later asking for tickets

1:24:20 Small Town Big Story: Officer Ariana James saves a 7-year-old thrown from a truck in Gwinnett County

1:26:10 Closing: Peacemaker Coffee, shoutout to listener Ed, scheduled fights and listener call-to-action

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S E113: Inside Ways & Means: Jason Smith on Trump, Voter Trust, and the Big Tax Cut :: Ep 113 Try That in a Small Town Podcast Jun 15, 2026

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Chairman Jason Smith of the House Ways and Means Committee joins the Try That In A Small Town podcast from CMA Fest in Nashville. He breaks down what the powerful Ways and Means Committee actually does and how it touches every American’s life through taxes, trade, Social Security, Medicare, and more.

Jason opens up about his small-town Missouri roots, being a fourth-generation farmer, raising white buffalo, and why he still lives in the same rural community he represents. He explains how he took the Ways and Means Committee on the road to 32 states to listen to working families, small businesses, and farmers before writing what he calls the “Big Beautiful Bill” – the largest tax cut in U.S. history, including no tax on tips and overtime.

The conversation gets candid on Social Security’s future, election integrity and slow vote counts in places like California, and what happens when people lose trust in the system. Jason also shares behind-the-scenes stories of working closely with President Trump – from grilling him for three hours on every line of a 103-title tax bill in the Oval Office to the now-famous “red button” that just orders Diet Coke.

Along the way, they talk CMA Fest, Jason’s obsession with Reba, the Chiefs, Mahomes vs. Brady, cleaning up Washington, D.C., and why he believes the founding fathers’ values are really small-town values. Jason closes with a powerful story of a single mom whose $10,000 tax refund changed her life – and why that’s why he still fights for small towns and working families.

Timed highlights

2:00 Who is Chairman Jason Smith and what is the Ways and Means Committee?

5:13 CMA Fest, first concerts, and Jason’s country music roots

7:11 The Ozarks, one of America’s poorest districts, and small-town values

8:14 Reba superfan stories and being starstruck in DC

10:02 How the guys first met Jason at the South Dakota Governor’s Hunt

11:49 Nashville’s Bluebird Café, songwriting, and music in DC

13:06 Jason’s priorities: working families, small businesses, and farmers

14:19 White buffalo, donkeys named Bill, Hillary, Chelsea, and Hunter

15:29 Growing up poor in a trailer, farm life, and why that shapes his politics

19:15 Taking Ways and Means to 32 states and writing the “Big Beautiful Bill”

20:20 No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and tax ideas from real Americans

22:06 Social Security history, FDR, and why both parties will keep it

23:35 Will Social Security ever go away? Jason’s answer and insolvency warning

26:49 How Jason became the youngest Ways and Means chair since before the Civil War

29:01 Inside the steering committee and what it takes to win the gavel

32:31 Life on call with President Trump and 5:30 a.m. texts

33:00 Three-hour Oval Office grilling on the “Big Beautiful Bill”

35:07 The Diet Coke button story and a handwritten note after Jason’s dad passed

37:34 Elections, slow vote counts in California, and voter trust

40:31 Why “every vote counts”: Jason’s one-vote victory story

43:03 Chiefs fandom, Mahomes vs. Brady, and elite QB mindset

48:19 How Trump cleaned up Washington, D.C. and made it feel safe again

51:39 What do you buy a president for Christmas and Trump’s generosity with guests

52:14 Jason presents a Congressional Record honoring “Try That In A Small Town”

54:57 Why the song struck a nerve in small-town America

56:24 The waitress, a $10,000 refund, and how tax policy changes real lives

59:19 Jason’s schedule, gym routine, and juggling DC with life back on the farm

1:01:21 Final thoughts on serving small towns and inviting listeners to DC

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S E112: Chuck Wicks: Stealing Cinderella, Autism Dad, Wine Boss & Shiners Showrunner :: Ep 112 Try That in a Small Town Podcast Jun 08, 2026

Show notes

Country artist and entertainer Chuck Wicks stops by the Try That In A Small Town podcast for a wild, honest, and surprisingly emotional ride.

Chuck opens up about his journey from small-town farm kid and college baseball player to Nashville recording artist, radio host, entrepreneur, and autism dad. He shares the real story behind Stealing Cinderella, what it was like to be turned down by RCA the first time, and how he fought his way back to a record deal.

Chuck also talks candidly about raising his nonverbal autistic son Tucker, early intervention, therapies, and the emotional roller coaster of getting an autism diagnosis at Vanderbilt. He explains how that journey has changed his priorities and why he and his wife Cassie (Jason Aldean’s sister) feel called to help other parents find resources.

From there, the guys dive into:

- Chuck’s relationship with Jason Aldean and what Jason is really like offstage

- How Melorosa Wine was born from Cassie’s Cuban family story

- Building Shiners, a wild Cirque-style, adults-only residency show in downtown Nashville

- The stress of chasing country radio, the power of authenticity, and artists taking shots at radio

- The infamous “DipShidiot” segment: road rage, gas station etiquette, youth sports parents, and more

Chuck also teases his upcoming movie on Great American Family Network and Amazon Prime, where he sings multiple songs and steps deeper into acting.

If you love real Nashville stories, songwriting, small-town values, and unfiltered conversations about parenting, business, and faith, this episode delivers.

Subscribe and share if you enjoy the show, and check out the member-only bonus segment for extra songs and stories.

3:06 Early mornings, syndicated radio, and sleep routines

5:05 Family trip out West: Jackson Hole, Yellowstone, elk and bison

7:48 Buffalo vs bison and bear talk

10:00 Hunting, backlash on social media, and eating what you kill

13:44 Health, wild game, and clean eating

14:17 Chuck on being 47, staying in shape, and raising his autistic son

15:12 Tucker’s autism journey: early signs, testing at Vanderbilt, and therapies

18:49 Nonverbal progress, speech breakthroughs, and hope

19:37 Faith, calling, and why parenting Tucker matters more than career

20:00 Connecting with other autism parents (Joe Don Rooney story)

22:19 Treatments, Lucavorin, red light therapy, and access to resources

24:50 “We wouldn’t trade him for anything” – embracing Tucker’s journey

26:17 Belt obsessions, airplane routines, and sensory quirks

26:28 Chuck’s early life: small-town farm kid and college baseball player

28:46 Discovering his voice in college, almost joining a pop group

31:45 First trip to Nashville, meeting RCA’s Jim Catino and singing a cappella

33:56 Development deal, not getting picked up, and starting over

36:18 Four years of grinding, learning to write, and finding his sound

42:40 Second chance: Clint Higham, Chesney camp, and full RCA deal

45:47 Writing Stealing Cinderella from a personal love story

50:00 Singing Stealing Cinderella at Coach Fulmer’s daughter’s wedding

51:37 Realizing the power of a song to move strangers

52:57 The stress of chasing radio hits and perspective with time

53:18 Other cuts and hits, including Jason Aldean’s Don’t You Wanna Stay (context: Aldean cut with Thrash)

56:03 How Chuck met Cassie, realized she was Jason Aldean’s sister, and dating into the Aldean family

1:00:13 The day after: Jason Aldean’s “blessing” phone call

1:02:30 Why Cassie’s three kids changed how Chuck approached relationships

1:03:58 Blended family life: ages of the kids and how fast time moves

1:05:25 What Jason Aldean is really like offstage: loyalty, mystery, and staying the same guy

1:06:29 Jason’s laugh, tight inner circle, and “it could all go away” mindset

1:08:01 Melorosa Wine: starting a wine company with Jason Aldean

1:09:00 Where to find Mellorosa (online, Kroger, ABC, Princess Cruises, Dubai)

1:09:33 The Cuban family story behind the name and “toast to freedom”

1:10:59 Shiners: Cirque-level, adults-only, comedy show in the historic Woolworth building

1:13:35 Writing Shiners during Covid and building a Nashville residency

1:16:10 The history and civil rights importance of the Woolworth building

1:20:20 What to expect at Shiners: moonshiners, aerial acts, crowd work, and “if you’re easily offended…”

1:22:02 DipShidiot segment: explaining the bit

1:22:33 Gas station chaos: Bucky’s pump hogs and parking-lot etiquette

1:25:29 Red velvet “Whitey” vs “Witty’s” custard mix-up

1:27:31 Red Clay Strays controversy: “radio is dead” comment and why radio still matters

1:30:39 Burning bridges you haven’t crossed yet and respecting country radio

1:35:05 Youth sports parents losing their minds vs just being a dad

1:38:01 CMT Awards “edit the chorus” story and learning to be grateful

1:41:03 Road rage story: 75 in a 70 and killing them with kindness

1:43:45 Locker room etiquette: naked close talkers and lifetime fitness stories

1:45:44 Manscaping, gym talk, and ridiculous visual bits

1:46:00 Chuck’s upcoming movie: Great American Family Network & Amazon Prime

1:47:04 Coloring hair, beard guard settings, and aging on camera

1:50:02 Closing: Melorosa Wine, Shiners, Chuck’s music, coffee collab, and podcast wrap

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S E111: AI vs Songwriters, Trans Sports, Bear Hunt Backlash & Small-Town Honor :: Ep. 111 Try That in a Small Town Jun 01, 2026

Show notes

From AI-written songs and a controversial commencement speech to trans athletes in girls’ sports, Cody Johnson’s bear hunt backlash, THC drinks, and a powerful small-town funeral story – the guys cover it all in this episode of the Try That In A Small Town Podcast.

They compare Scott Borchetta’s AI-heavy, “deal with it” address to Eric Church’s inspiring guitar analogy, talk about what AI and streaming are really doing to songwriters, roast a school district for a rained-out graduation, tell wild Bahamas golf and gambling stories, and debate THC drinks, hunting, and new “poly” reality TV.

They close with DipShidiot of the Week and a heartfelt look at how small towns still show up for their own.

00:52 Will Levis sex tape rumor and buying stories back from tabloids

02:53 Summer is here, kids out, and notable commencement speeches

03:16 Eric Church’s guitar-and-life commencement speech and why it worked

05:09 Scott Borchetta’s AI commencement: streaming, socials, and production

05:41 Booed by grads, “I know it, deal with it” and delivery vs message

07:12 Is brutal realism better than inspiration for graduates?

08:02 AI as tool vs replacement and why it hits different when you’re already rich

09:18 Comparing AI to Pro Tools, samples, and why fully AI songs lose listeners

11:09 Streaming’s impact on publishing, who actually makes money now

12:25 Big label buildings, tiny publishing floors, and small pub company struggles

13:54 Local high school graduations drenched in rain, no backup venue

14:45 Rain-or-shine policies, lightning concerns, and rushing the ceremony

15:43 What the soaked kids and grandparents went through that night

16:48 Superintendent named Dipshit of the Week for no backup plan

17:34 Road managers, “bad calls,” and transition to Bahamas trip

18:01 Bahamas: golf, fishing, tequila-fueled NHL-on-PS5 money games

19:57 High-dollar putter on the line: live call to Jake for Scotty Cameron details

20:58 Aldean wins the putter in overtime and pulls it from Jake’s bag at the airport

22:10 Telly’s golf swing, overconfidence, and getting mocked online

23:06 Baker’s Bay, Morgan Wallen, and stories that stay behind the paywall

24:36 Charles Barkley’s swing yips and getting a little better over time

25:03 Tax deadlines pushed back again in Tennessee and IRS jokes

25:38 Teasing next guest and Kayla’s upcoming shoulder surgery

26:16 Pain meds, “no days off,” and the idea of a post-op podcast

26:54 The blue bottle “herbal” drink heading toward felony status in Tennessee

27:35 How it became a pre-show hype drink and what it actually looks like

28:26 Why the state is banning it and links to opioid recovery concerns

29:10 If that’s illegal, what about THC drinks and Delta beverages?

29:54 THC drinks as golf “swing juice” and health vs alcohol debate

30:32 Listeners’ THC drink stories and whether it really helps putting

31:20 Prebiotic Pepsi “health” marketing and chemical overload

31:56 Predicting THC drinks at sporting events and stadiums

32:07 Super Bowl 2030 coming to Nashville and halftime show speculation

32:30 Taylor Swift, “real” country, and who should play the big stage

33:40 Titans rebuild, new coach, and does Will Levis really have it?

38:18 Pocket passers vs mobile QBs and what the guys want under center

39:40 Topic wheel spin: California track meet and trans athlete controversy

40:21 “Can’t believe this is still a thing” and fairness for girls in sports

40:58 Parents, boycotts, and refusing to line up against male competitors

41:51 Riley Gaines’ regret about competing and the mental toll

43:08 Zero tolerance stance vs waiting for laws and elections to catch up

44:02 New show “This Is Poly” and modern polyamorous families on TV

45:25 Jealousy, fights, and why some refuse to watch these reality shows

47:34 Kayla’s comedy, being “yourself” on mic, and overthinking funny

49:04 Musicianship, performance anxiety, and freedom when you stop monitoring

50:34 Recording vocals without headphones and trusting feel

51:12 Delta THC drinks: 20 mg misfire and why 5 mg is smarter

52:02 Gummy war stories, Doritos, and not being natural stoners

53:04 On-stage looks vs reality: who seems like the “stoner” in the band

54:03 Dip Shitty of the Week: Cody Johnson’s Alaskan bear hunt haters

54:31 Hunting culture vs online outrage and meat-eating hypocrisy

55:27 “Harvested” vs “killed” and calling hunting what it is

56:02 Liberal sensitivities, offense at everything, and language games

57:07 Public etiquette dipshit: people who just stop in the middle of walkways

58:30 Airport moving walkways: “it’s not a ride, keep walking”

59:20 Backpack chaos on airplanes and basic travel courtesy

1:00:33 Listener callout: submit your Dip Shitty of the Week in the comments

1:01:02 Small-town funeral: honoring a firefighter, veteran, and community pillar

1:01:45 Fire trucks, sirens, last ride, American Legion, and folded flag moment

1:02:20 Food, casseroles, and how small towns show up for grieving families

1:03:22 Why small towns may be what keeps the country united

1:04:36 Going home to a 400-person town and Legion dinners after funerals

1:05:09 How that support gives the family peace and helps them move on

1:05:27 Peacemaker Coffee promo: TTIAST blends, sucker punch dark roast, travel mugs

1:05:58 CTAs: download, comment, send small-town stories and dipshidiots of the week

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S E110: ACM Awards Fallout: Morgan Wallen Snub & Ella Langley’s Big Night :: Ep 110 TTIAST May 25, 2026

Show notes

The Try That In A Small Town crew dives into the 2024 ACM Awards – the politics, the snubs, and the few moments that actually delivered. From Morgan Wallen being shut out, to Ella Langley’s historic run, to Lainey Wilson, Miranda Lambert, Zach Top, Kane Brown, Parker McCollum, and more, the guys break down who deserved what and where country music is really headed.

They also talk about TikTok-ready story songs like “Choosing Texas,” the future of traditional-leaning artists, how award shows are losing legitimacy with fans, and why the industry keeps cloning the same “country boy” image. Plus: a small-town hero who saved a family from a fire, drive-thru rim damage, broken-English call centers, and a McDonald’s “fresh” muffin story.

Perfect for country fans, songwriters, and anyone who’s over the BS of modern award shows.

Timed Highlights:

2:16 – Studio chaos, heat, and golf talk in the eSpaces room

3:18 – Peacemaker Coffee plug and the truth about roast caffeine levels

4:32 – Shoulder MRI results: torn bicep, torn rotator cuff, and surgery date

16:05 – Instagram subscriptions and bonus content tease

16:44 – Confession: who actually watched the ACM Awards (and who didn’t)

18:20 – Lainey Wilson’s opener: high energy vs memorable songs debate

22:36 – Laney’s lack of a clear “signature” song and expectations for her writing

23:22 – Miranda Lambert’s “Crisco” performance reaction

24:44 – Riley Green and Ella Langley: onstage “pajamas” tension

33:31 – Why fans are losing faith in award shows and ratings

36:29 – Megan Moroney’s many nominations and zero wins

42:48 – Group of the Year: Red Clay Strays and the new darlings of country

45:18 – “Best they/them duo?” Pushing back on where categories might go

47:05 – Why Brooks & Dunn, Alan Jackson, and Rascal Flatts are selling more tickets now

48:01 – Disposable songs vs timeless 90s/2000s country

48:20 – Red Clay Strays sell out Bridgestone: how fans find music now

48:54 – Encouraging signs: more traditional-leaning performances at the ACMs

49:44 – Parker McCollum wins Album of the Year over Morgan Wallen

50:37 – “Choosing Texas” wins Song/Single of the Year and just how massive it is

52:51 – Somewhere Over Laredo vs Somewhere Over The Rainbow and copyright splits

55:09 – Tucker Wetmore: Morgan/Riley clone, performance debate, and industry blame

59:12 – Zach Top’s 90s throwback lane: can it really last?

1:02:27 – Why traditional acts must have truly great songs to survive

1:03:21 – Kane Brown’s “Woman” and trying to stay country

1:08:20 – Why Ella Langley feels so believable and why her stool performance worked

1:09:34 – Dancers in country: necessary or cheesy?

1:11:09 – Grading the ACMs: starting at a 5 because of the Morgan snubs

1:12:34 – What the ACMs are signaling to fans by ignoring Morgan Wallen

1:13:58 – How the snubs actually pour jet fuel on Morgan’s career

1:14:55 – The legitimacy problem when the biggest artists don’t show up

1:16:46 – Speculating on why the industry still hasn’t moved on from Morgan’s incident

1:16:54 – New Male Artist: Tucker Wetmore; New Female Artist: Avery Anna

1:21:01 – “No cause for alarm” text actually is cause for alarm: contract story teaser

1:21:39 – Contract options and income surprises: more to come

1:22:29 – Small town hero: Officer Eli Rogers saves a family from an apartment fire

1:23:18 – Why stories like Eli’s embody “Try That In A Small Town”

1:23:59 – Dipshit of the Week: broken-English call centers and customer service

1:31:32 – Why the ACMs feel like BS but we still care about songs, fans, and country music

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S E109: Rock Docs, AI Songwriting, Cruise Nightmares and Road-Game Injuries :: Ep 109 Try That in Small Town Podcast May 18, 2026

Show notes

From Toradol shots and “rock docs” on the road, to AI tools like Suno reshaping Nashville, to cruise-ship horror stories and fans yelling requests at charity shows… this episode of Drive That in a Small Town goes all over the map in the best way.

The guys swap stories about playing hurt on tour, getting hooked up by “rock docs,” demolishing Luke Bryan’s band in flag football, near-disastrous 100-yard dashes, and getting smoked by a college women’s softball team. They also take a hard look at AI in songwriting, the death of old-school demo sessions, and how quality songs still rise above the noise.

You’ll also hear heartfelt praise for John Morgan’s heart for kids, a hilarious breakdown of Zach Bryan’s infamous fast-break clip, cruise stories including the notorious “Poop Cruise,” a peek into publishing contracts and quotas, and a “Dip Shit” segment calling out bad audience etiquette, shady neighbors, and 5-minute voice texts.

If you love small-town stories, country music, road-life chaos, and real talk about where the music business is headed, this one’s for you.

02:00 Shoulder sling, cortisone shots and playing hurt on the road

05:03 High-ankle sprain, Toradol, and “rock doc roulette” on tour

09:12 Behind the scenes: how rock docs keep shows from getting canceled

11:19 Golf postponed, one-armed putting, and Def Leppard drummer jokes

13:02 John Morgan at Bethel Bible Village: connecting with kids and staying late

14:25 John Morgan’s small-town roots and Chattanooga ties

14:42 Zach Bryan’s legendary fast break: live reaction to the clip

18:05 Is he a team player or just a chaotic fast break? Hoops talk and last-shot mentality

20:16 Who played what sport? Shortstop, field goal specialist, soccer and skateboarding handstands

22:15 Sponsor: Original Glory beer and Patriot Mobile

23:00 Neil’s college field goal career and the illness that changed his path to music

25:00 Spotting athletes on stage by how they move with their instruments

25:48 Flag football vs Luke Bryan’s band and a very lopsided score

27:00 Hungover 100-yard dash: who’s really the fastest?

29:24 Thomas Rhett vs Jay: 50-yard dash, gravel, and a brutal face-plant

30:30 Road games: Wiffle ball, basketball, softball and unhealthy competitiveness

32:41 Getting humbled by a college women’s softball team

33:04 Tennis, pickleball and even getting hurt playing video hockey

34:34 Women’s hockey, drunk women’s hockey and a TV-league tangent

34:55 Publishing meeting anxiety: “no cause for alarm” text and overthinking contracts

37:44 Song quotas vs quality: why the biggest years came from fewer songs

39:21 Suno AI demos, ChatGPT lyrics and “shining up a turd”

42:20 Why AI is scary for real creatives and how it masks bad songwriting

43:42 Who owns AI-generated masters and what happens when tools get better?

46:02 The death of Nashville demo sessions and what’s been lost for musicians and engineers

49:21 Why a real band in a room can’t be replaced, and how ears have changed

50:54 Hearing untuned vocals again and why imperfection feels so good

52:04 Cruise people vs non-cruise people and the infamous “Poop Cruise”

53:20 Disney Cruise and Castaway Cay: the one cruise they actually loved

55:16 The Venice/Disney Magic gig almost everyone in the band was offered

56:10 Hantavirus on cruise ships and mysterious “wives overboard” stories

58:09 Dip Shit segment: drunk fans yelling at benefits and show etiquette

01:01:09 Neighbor overcharging on landscaping: calling out the rip-off

01:02:55 Voice-text etiquette: why anything over 30 seconds is a problem

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S E108: Inside Trump’s Oval Office: Aldean Crew’s Surreal White House Visit :: Ep 108 Try That in a Small Town Podcast May 11, 2026

Show notes

The Try That In A Small Town Podcast crew is back with a wild mix of gear talk, surgery updates, politics, and one unforgettable trip to the White House.

Kurt and Tully break down their VIP visit to Washington, DC for Jason Aldean’s birthday, including standing in the Oval Office with President Trump, checking out the “Lewinsky room,” seeing historic artifacts up close, and reacting to Trump’s Presidential Walk of Fame in the colonnade.

The guys also dive into Trump’s impact on safety, the economy, the border, and Iran, and whether hardcore haters will ever admit anything positive by the end of his term.

On the lighter side, there’s shoulder surgery pain, a new Try That In A Small Town coffee line, a full-on rant about grown men wearing sandals on the golf course, and a sketchy doctor’s office still asking for Social Security numbers right after being hacked.

00:14 Swing-arm mic envy and Rascal Flatts headset jokes

02:53 The real “elephant in the room”: Kurt’s arm sling and shoulder pain

04:39 MRI coming up and why rehab isn’t enough this time

07:40 Setting up Jason Aldean’s DC birthday trip and sightseeing plans

08:46 Smithsonian, National Archives, and seeing Lincoln’s hat

10:36 How the VIP White House tour and Oval Office visit came together

11:27 First steps into the Oval Office and the weight of history

13:03 The “Lewinsky room” and Trump’s private swag shop

15:12 Trump-signed Bibles and presidential challenge coins everywhere

17:16 Trump’s Presidential Walk of Fame in the colonnade and the Biden plaque

19:12 Would anyone ever admit “maybe Trump wasn’t that bad”?

23:37 Safety, border, DC being clean again, and media spin

28:29 Economy, gas prices, inflation, and how people will judge this presidency

32:37 “Do you feel safer?” and what hardcore Trump haters will never say out loud

37:51 Democratic process, midterms, and Trump’s strategic timing

38:30 Ad read: Original Glory beer and Patriot Mobile

38:59 Social media backlash to the White House photos

40:13 New “Try That In A Small Town” coffee line and flavor names

41:39 Coffee review from Mom: bold but not bitter

39:40 (segment flows) Introducing “dip sh*tty” targets of the week

40:39 Sandals on the golf course and a full anti-man-feet rant

43:28 The yacht story: when nasty feet ruin a radio event

46:22 Doctor’s office gets hacked… then still asks for Social Security numbers

48:01 Replacing debit cards, data everywhere, and security frustration

48:40 Augusta story, golf etiquette, and strict dress-code culture

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S E107: Road Life With Aldean, Casino Carnage, Conspiracies & Golf Chaos :: Ep 107 Try That in a Small Town Podcast May 04, 2026

Show notes

The boys are back in the Patriot Mobile Studios powered by E|Spaces, recapping a wild run on the road with Jason Aldean, late-night casino losses, Neil’s killer benefit performance, and plans for an epic golf grudge match. Then they pivot into government/alien conspiracies, the death of “free” sports TV, and a fresh round of Dip Shitty of the Week.

From bus hockey and blackjack in Oklahoma to Area 51 stories, New York tax drama, and honoring small-town hero principal Kirk Moore, this one is wall-to-wall road stories, rants, and laughs.

Timestamps

01:39 Road run recap: Neil joins Aldean’s tour

02:36 Bus life, twin buses, and late-night NHL video game wars

04:36 Aldean troubleshooting the Wi-Fi like the band’s IT guy

05:24 Oklahoma golf, old-school course, and Kurt left off the tee sheet

07:16 First casino show, Neil as “guitar tech” and getting footage

07:32 Blackjack in Oklahoma: ante every hand and the endless shoe

08:45 Everyone’s losing, ATM trips, and the slide into craps

10:09 Security vs. gamblers: “It’s four hours to the next gig, we’re fine”

11:07 Reality check: it’s actually an eight-hour bus ride

12:16 Neil’s allergy battle, steroids, and dragging into the next show

13:05 Private benefit show setup and crowd size

13:48 Neil’s solo opener and “Night Train” setlist drama

14:35 Side-stage support: Aldean and the guys watch Neil crush it

15:32 “There Goes My Life” and why it always slays

16:22 Doing it for the kids and Elvis-ing out after the benefit

16:36 Bus hockey, Neil completely hitting the wall

17:31 Road DNA vs. home life – why no one goes straight to bed

18:12 Aldean’s schedule, sleep discipline, and protecting the voice

19:15 High-end sports card obsession on the bus

20:09 Getting home, sleeping it off, and turkey hunting at 3 a.m.

20:38 Could Kayla hang on the bus? Road stamina debate

21:22 Work trips, mobile studio rig, and writing/recording on the road

22:41 Whiskey on the guitar: the dressing room spill story

24:02 Original Glory ad read and small-town investment plug

24:36 Patriot Mobile ad and values (1st/2nd Amendment, life, military)

25:22 Dreaming again about an RV / work bus and early pod expectations

26:23 Looking back: tattoos, million followers, and the Winnebago dream

27:07 All Access motor coach sponsorship idea

27:34 Neil’s road trip recap buttoned up

27:58 Conspiracy hour: dead scientists and weird “suicides”

28:37 Are other countries targeting our brightest minds?

29:44 Alien/UFO thread and government secrecy questions

31:46 Area 51 stories from the late 90s and getting turned around by Jeeps

33:08 Do they believe in aliens? Biblical angle and demonic deception theory

34:22 What’s really at Area 51 – missile base or decoy?

35:09 Jim jumps in: living in Vegas, deep-diving Area 51, and the S4 doc

36:00 Streaming sports rant: too many apps to watch one team

37:01 NFL on YouTube, Peacock, Netflix, and subscription fatigue

37:55 DirecTV vs YouTube TV and paying twice for the same games

38:31 “Package” upgrades that still don’t have all the sports

40:02 More casino anger: losing thousands and drinks still not free

41:00 Aldean’s wrapped “drug money” stacks on the bus

41:45 Why they still kind of love casino nights anyway

42:08 Oklahoma hero principal Kirk Moore update – shot protecting students

41:59 Prom king moment and why they want him on the podcast

42:41 Mission: get Kirk Moore to a show and on the pod

43:25 How GPS and smartphones changed navigation and memory

44:07 Losing laminates, AirTags on tour passes, and tracking them in casinos

45:06 Golf range finders, AirTags, and expensive gear that always gets lost

46:01 Phone GPS vs range finder lasers and why golfers don’t trust tech

46:30 Range finder magnets on carts – brilliant way to sell more units

47:03 Masters meltdowns and 10s on par 5s – pros are human too

48:12 Why golf can be miserable if you’re not a player

49:10 No etiquette in this crew: non-stop ribbing on the course

49:44 You need tough skin to be in this friend group

50:24 Planning “The Match”: format, handicaps, and who gets Tully

51:27 Shamble vs scramble and how to make it fair with Neil

52:16 Handicaps, past form, and how the mental game wrecks Kayla

53:01 Golf as life-ruiner: the little white ball in your brain

53:23 Committing to make the golf match happen in May

53:55 Dip Shitty of the Week: public phone audio with no headphones

55:02 Rudeness in modern life and lack of basic courtesy

57:14 Crosswalk behavior: assuming cars see you while you’re on your phone

58:37 Do you scurry in crosswalks or drag your feet?

59:12 Taxing the rich: New York politics, commercial real estate and exits

1:01:07 Capitalism, church tithes, and who actually funds things

1:02:26 Islamic movement, spiritual concerns, and NYC post-9/11

1:03:16 Queens street takeover and Palestinian flags

1:04:09 Social media as a double-edged sword: awareness vs outrage

1:05:29 Kurt’s “Kurt, what’s up?” ticket-text pet peeve

1:06:22 The pressure trap of vague texts from people who want favors

1:08:01 Pauls Valley, OK, July 24 show and finding Kirk Moore

1:08:39 Two-year anniversary of the podcast

1:09:17 Listener support, comments, and platforms ramping up

1:10:05 Wrap-up and call to follow, subscribe, share, rate, and grab merch

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S E106: Taylor Hicks: American Idol Secrets and the Broadway Grind :: Ep 106 Try That in a Small Town Podcast Apr 27, 2026

Show notes

American Idol Season 5 winner Taylor Hicks joins Try That In A Small Town to unpack how Hurricane Katrina accidentally sent him to the Vegas auditions, what Simon Cowell really thought at first, and the strategy he used to “play the game” and win Idol at its peak.

Taylor breaks down crazy behind-the-scenes Idol stories, the early days of 360 deals, going from a 60-cap bar to Southeast Asia arenas in six months, writing and singing the Paul Finebaum Show theme, and grinding through 576 Broadway shows in a 40-foot ice cream cone as Teen Angel in Grease. He also teases his new single “The Mirror,” cut at Sun Records with Memphis horns and a southern rock vibe.

Plus: a hilarious “DipShidiots” segment on airport bathrooms, oversized carry-ons, public sneezers and more.

Key Timestamps:

00:00 Taylor’s wild Hurricane Katrina-to-Idol audition story

11:45 Simon Cowell’s early rejection and later apology

23:00 Inside Idol strategy, 360-style deals and media “game play”

27:30 From small bar gigs to arenas and Southeast Asia

41:28 Broadway in Grease and life inside a 40-foot ice cream cone

55:30 New single “The Mirror” and current touring life

59:00 “DipShidiots” segment: pet peeves and airport stories

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S E105: ACM Noms, Morgan’s Snub, and a Small Town Hero :: Ep 105 Try That in a Small Town Podcast Apr 20, 2026

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From the Patriot Mobile studio powered by E|Spaces, the guys dive into a packed episode of Try That In A Small Town.

They kick things off by reacting to the latest ACM Award nominations: who belongs, who doesn’t, and why politics still run the game. Entertainer, Group, Duo, New Artist, Album, Song, Single, and Musical Event of the Year all get the TTIAST treatment, with plenty of opinions on names like Morgan Wallen, Jason Aldean, Luke Combs, Jelly Roll, Cody Johnson, Megan Moroney, Chris Stapleton, Lainey Wilson, Alabama, Zac Brown Band, Parmalee, and more.

Kelly shares a huge personal milestone: after interning for Reba’s company back in the 90s, he finally lands his first Reba cut on a song written in 2005. That opens up a conversation about prayer, persistence, and whether Christians should pray about career and business. The guys revisit the backstory of “If I Didn’t Love You” (Jason Aldean and Carrie Underwood), from losing a duet slot to writing something ultra-specific on a deadline and watching it connect.

In the fan-favorite Dip Shitty-its segment, they unload on Masters “pond jumpers,” public bathroom pee etiquette, clapping when servers drop dishes, trash in urinals, rental car abuse, and more everyday behaviors that drive them crazy.

They close with a powerful Small Town Hero story from Pauls Valley, Oklahoma, where a principal charged an armed student, took a bullet, and likely saved lives. It’s exactly the kind of “try that in a small town” courage the show was built to highlight.

If you like country music, songwriting war stories, small town grit, and unfiltered opinions, this one delivers from front to back.

Timed Highlights (Audio):

0:00 E|Spaces and Patriot Mobile studio intro

1:30 New mic arm, setup chatter, and moon-landing clip going viral

4:00 Moon rocks, Soviets, and joking about “disinformation”

5:10 The Brad Paisley song that “wouldn’t get cut” in 2026

6:00 Masculinity, political correctness, and “I’m still a guy” lyrics

7:30 Origin story: pink cupcakes at school, church culture, and irritation-fueled writing

10:00 Writing the song with Lee Miller and pitching it to Brad Paisley

11:30 Paisley’s issue with singing the word “guy” and nearly losing the cut

13:00 Corporate shows, offended “fancy guys,” and how Kelly softens the bit

14:00 Why fans love their award show breakdowns

14:30 Songwriter of the Year nominees and how political awards can be

15:50 Entertainer of the Year: Luke, Jelly Roll, Cody, Megan, Stapleton, Morgan, Lainey

16:40 Is Megan Moroney really ready for Entertainer of the Year?

17:20 Group of the Year confusion: 49 Winchester, Flatland Cavalry, Red Clay Strays, Old Dominion, Rascal Flatts

18:10 Where are Alabama, Zac Brown Band, and Parmalee?

19:10 Duo of the Year: Brooks & Dunn, Brothers Osborne, Dan + Shay, Thelma and James, Muscadine Bloodline

20:20 Admitting they haven’t even heard some nominees, despite being in the business

21:00 New Female Artist: quick thoughts on Avery Anna, Mackenzie Carpenter, Dasha, Caroline Jones, Emily Ann Roberts

21:40 New Male Artist: Gavin Adcock, Vincent Mason, Shaboozey, Hudson Westbrook, Tucker Webb

22:30 Album of the Year: Zach Top, Carter Faith, Riley Green, Morgan Wallen, Parker McCollum

22:55 “If Morgan doesn’t win, call BS on the ACMs”

23:50 Song of the Year: Miranda/Stapleton, Megan Moroney, Ella Langley, Zach Top, Lainey Wilson

24:20 Consensus that “Choosing Texas” is massive

25:00 Musical Event of the Year: predicting a big night for Riley Green and Ella Langley

25:40 Single of the Year: Lainey, Cody, Zach Top, Ella, Megan

26:40 Neil missing a Riley Green writers round and golf event

27:30 Neil heading out on the road with Jason Aldean (and staying up late on the bus)

28:40 Original Glory beer and Patriot Mobile spots

30:20 Kelly’s answered prayer: Reba cuts his song from 2005

31:10 From Reba intern in the 90s to Reba cut in 2026

32:00 Co-writers Connie Harrington and Brett Beavers and the power of persistence

33:00 How one cut boosts morale and the next few writing days

33:40 Should Christians pray for career and business?

34:30 Praying for ideas, strength, and perseverance vs specific trophies

35:20 The “If I Didn’t Love You” story: losing a duet, writing on a mission

36:30 Late-night demo, quick mix, and Aldean’s instant reaction

38:00 Lessons in frustration, prayer, and not giving up

39:10 Neil’s Reba hit that nudged him from artist lane to full-time writer

40:10 Kelly/Lovelace/Loveless name confusion and growing up with a “girl’s name”

41:20 Army nameplate abuse and teasing a future long-form story

42:10 Launching into Dip Shitty-its

42:40 Masters Par 3 “pond jumpers” at Augusta and tradition vs spectacle

44:20 Public bathroom pee etiquette: clean your own mess

46:30 Band life and cleaning up after other people’s bad aim

47:40 Clapping when a server drops dishes and why it’s mean, not funny

49:30 Gum and trash in urinals and the “not my problem” mentality

50:30 Rental car abuse vs taking care of what isn’t yours

51:20 The slow driver with the “Caution: Mowers Ahead” truck and the perfect podcast job

52:30 Small Town Hero: Oklahoma principal tackles armed student, takes a bullet

53:40 “Just do something” instead of filming or running

54:30 Why that kind of courage fits the show’s theme

55:30 Bethel Bible Village benefit with John Morgan in Chattanooga

56:30 Final thoughts on ACM noms and Megan Moroney as Entertainer

57:30 Listener call-to-action: subscribe, rate, and leave comments (love or hate)

58:30 Sign-off from TK, Kurt, and K-Low, Patriot Mobile studio powered by E|Spaces

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