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True Crime Conversations explores the world’s most notorious crimes by speaking to the people who know the most about them. Hosted by Gemma Bath.

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How Police Caught The Golden State Killer Sep 02, 2020

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It’s 1978 in the Californian city of Stockton. Bob and Gay Hardwick, a couple in their twenties, are asleep in the early hours of the morning. Suddenly, they’re awoken by a bright light shining in their faces. A man is standing at the edge of their bed holding a gun, with a black ski mask covering his face. Over several hours, Gay Hardwick is sexually assaulted by the armed intruder, while Bob is tied up, unable to move. The man behind the mask would come to be known as the East Area Rapist, or the Golden State Killer, and for decades, he would evade police.

In today’s episode, Jessie speaks with Andrew Rule. Andrew’s written about some of the biggest Australian crimes of the last 30 years and is currently acolumnist for the Herald Sun, as well as host of his own podcast Life and Crimes with Andrew Rule. Andrew’s particularly interested in DNA tracing, which later became one of the most valuable tools to finding the Golden State Killer.

CREDITS

Guest: Andrew Rule

Host: Jessie Stephens

Producer: Lem Zakharia and Hannah Bowman

LINKS

Watch ‘I’ll be Gone in the Dark’ on BINGE… https://binge.com.au/shows/show-i-ll-be-gone-in-the-dark!7063
Andrew Rule’s book, Cuckoo… https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3617067-cuckoo

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Gary Jubelin & The Case That Cost Him His Job Aug 26, 2020

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It’s July 2018 when Detective Gary Jubelin stands in front of microphones and news cameras and says the words: “I suggest you come to us before we come to you.”

He is addressing the person who knows what happened to three-year-old William Tyrrell on September 12, 2014. Little did Gary know that this case would be the one to cost him his job, but as he tells host Jessie Stephens on the latest episode of True Crime Conversations, he has no regrets.

Gary Jubelin is one of Australia’s most notable homicide detectives, known for leading the investigation into the deaths of three Aboriginal children in Bowraville, solving the murder case of Terry Falconer, recovering the body of Matthew Leveson and running the crime scene following the Lindt Cafe siege.

In his new book I Catch Killers: The Life and Many Deaths of a Homicide Detective, Gary shares the reality of working on investigations such as the disappearance of William Tyrrell and the toll his work has taken on his personal life. Throughout his career, Gary's focus has cost him friendships, relationships and, in the case of William Tyrrell, his job.

CREDITS
Guest: Gary Jubelin
Host: Jessie Stephens
Producer: Hannah Bowman

LINKS

You can find Gary’s book HERE - https://bit.ly/2EEM4cA

RESEARCH

The Bowraville Murders - 60 Minutes. https://bit.ly/3jdETXT
Mark Leveson speaks after Gary Jubelin's court appearance | 7NEWS. https://bit.ly/3hu3Yh5

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Two Of The Most Wanted Men In Australia Aug 19, 2020

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When it comes to violent crime, can what happened to someone as a child, ever justify their actions as an adult?

In today’s episode, Jessie is speaking with a journalist, screenwriter, and author Mark Dapin.

In his book, Public Enemies Mark explores the lives of armed robbers Russell 'Mad Dog' Cox and Ray Denning.

In the 1960s, 70s, and 80s, armed robbers were the top of the criminal food chain. And Russell ‘Mad Dog’ Cox and Ray Denning were the best. Cox and Denning were once Australian Public Enemies Number One and Two. Both were handsome, charismatic bandits who refused to bow to authority.

Their story as criminals is one of violence and crime, but it has a deeper meaning that may be traced to the horrors they faced as young boys...

CREDITS

Guest: Mark Dapin

Host: Jessie Stephens
Producer: Hannah Bowman

LINKS

You can find Mark’s book HERE - https://bit.ly/324f5Xx

RESEARCH

Tough Nuts | Ray Denning | The Runner. https://bit.ly/3hdbn41
Tough Nuts | Russell Cox | Australia's Most Wanted Man. https://bit.ly/34eYymm

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‘Nightmare Of Errors’: The Case Of Kelvin Condren Aug 12, 2020

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It was Saturday morning, when a routine police patrol drove past a mostly empty car park in the remote Queensland town of Mount Isa. When police edged closer, they saw that it was the body of a young woman, who they’d later discovered was named Patricia Carlton. She’d been brutally beaten and sexually assaulted. The woman was rushed to hospital, but later that night Patricia would die of her injuries.

Following Patricia’s murder, the police made an arrest almost immediately. But what happens when the process lets us down and the wrong person ends up in jail?

In today’s episode, Jessie speaks with forensic anthropologist, criminologist and author, Dr. Xanthé Mallet.

In her new book, ‘Reasonable Doubt’ Xanthé explores some of Australia’s worst wrongful convictions - including that of Indigenous man Kelvin Condren who was wrongly convicted of murder in 1984.

CREDITS
Guest: Dr Xanthé Mallett

Host: Jessie Stephens

Producer: Hannah Bowman

LINKS

You can purchase Xanthe’s book HERE - https://bit.ly/30LEc1E

CONTACT US

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How An Internet Date Led To 7 Years Of Chasing Charlie Aug 05, 2020

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In today’s episode of True Crime Conversations Jessie speaks with Julia Robson. Julia is a private investigator, who spent 7 years on the trail of a New Zealand con man, who goes by the name of ‘Charlie’, who was scamming women online, promising them a better life, coercing them into relationships and even having children with them.

In her seven-part podcast ‘Chasing Charlie’ Julia speaks with the women who have been psychologically and financially abused by this man, and explains the trap she managed to set to finally bring him to justice.

CREDITS
Guest: Julia Robson
Host: Jessie Stephens
Producer: Hannah Bowman

LINKS

You can find Julia’s podcast Chasing Charlie HERE - https://bit.ly/39VuVXX

CONTACT US

Tell us what you think of the show via email at truecrime@mamamia.com.au

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Jose Martinez: A Killer Hiding In Plain Sight Jul 29, 2020

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When Jose Martinez’s sister was murdered, he got revenge by murdering her killers. This sparked what would end up being three dozen murders, he completed over more than three decades, many of them on behalf of drug cartels, as a hitman. Despite being a ruthless killer, Jose is described as a soft-spoken doting grandfather and complete family man.

In today’s episode, Jessie speaks with Jessica Garrison. Jessica is a senior investigative editor for Buzzfeed News and spent more than a decade as a reporter at the Los Angeles Times.

In her book The Devil's Harvest - A Ruthless Killer, a Terrorized Community, and the Search for Justice in California's Central Valley, Jessica traces the life of Jose Martinez, the cops who were investigating him and the families of his victims.

Throughout her research, Jessica has studied decades of case files, Martinez’s handwritten journals, interrogation transcripts, and spoken to the people closest to this case to find the answer to one question. Why do some deaths, and some lives, matter more than others?

CREDITS
Guest: Jessica Garrison
Host: Jessie Stephens
Executive Producer: Elise Cooper
Producer/Editor: Hannah Bowman

RESEARCH

‘I Killed 36 People’ - Buzzfeed News - https://bit.ly/2CNL7hT

LINKS

You can find Jessica’s book HERE - https://bit.ly/305eyES

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Lost in Larrimah: The Disappearance of Paddy Moriarty Jul 22, 2020

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In December 2017, Larrimah local Paddy Moriarty left his favourite pub and embarked on the two minute ride home, with his kelpie Kellie sitting beside him on his quad bike. And then, he disappeared into thin air. Along with Kellie.

Larrimah is a small town in the Northern Territory located 431 kilometers from Darwin and the nearest grocery store is 90 kilometres away. This tiny town only has a population of 10 people, so when Paddy disappeared it was big news.

In this episode Jessie speaks with journalist Kylie Stevenson. Kylie was the co-host of the Walkley award winning podcast Lost in Larrimah, alongside Caroline Graham. Ever since Paddy went missing, Kylie has had a personal and professional interest in the case, having met Paddy by chance a year earlier.

CREDITS
Guest: Kylie Stevenson
Host: Jessie Stephens
Executive Producer: Elise Cooper
Producer/Editor: Hannah Bowman

RESEARCH

The Disappearance Of Paddy Moriarty - A Dog Act | ABC News - https://bit.ly/2ONn4Sl
Missing Man May Have Been Baked Into Pie | A Current Affair Australia - https://bit.ly/3eRkzt1

LINKS

You can find Kylie’s podcast HERE - https://bit.ly/2OMfk3i

CONTACT US

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The Life Of A 21 Year Old Undercover Cop Jul 15, 2020

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In this episode, Jessie speaks with one of Queensland’s most highly regarded police officers, Keith Banks, about his experiences as an undercover operative in the 1980’s.
At 16 years old Keith traveled from Townsville to study at Brisbane’s Police Academy and by the time he was 21, the young, straight-laced country boy was risking his life to infiltrate some of Australia’s most dangerous drug syndicates.

To hide his identity Keith often became involved in the exact crimes he was hired to uncover.
In his new book Drugs, Guns & Lies: My life as an undercover cop, Keith shares his incredible story in an era riddled with corruption.

CREDITS
Guest: Keith Banks
Host: Jessie Stephens
Executive Producer: Elise Cooper
Producer/Editor: Hannah Bowman

RESEARCH

Fitzgerald Inquiry - The Corruption (Queensland State Archives) - https://bit.ly/3exKtlc
Retired QPS officer speaks out about Fitzgerald Inquiry. 7 News - https://bit.ly/32krdFs

LINKS

You can find Keith’s book HERE - https://bit.ly/2OsmvgC

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Australia's Most Notorious Con Man Jul 08, 2020

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Peter Foster is one of Australia's most prolific career criminals. From diet products to sports betting companies, this con man stops at nothing. His crimes have found him with links to Muhammad Ali and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair. And he also appeared on Andrew Denton’s Enough Rope.

In this episode Jessie speaks with Justin Armsden, an award-winning journalist with over 30 years of experience in print and broadcast. He has worked as an anchor for CNN and an investigative reporter for A Current Affair.

Justin has been on the tail of conman Peter Foster for the last 25 years, famously tracking him down in Byron Bay a few years ago when he was on the run. Justin has now teamed up with private investigator Ken Gamble for a new Audible Original podcast King Of Sting, which retraces Peter’s years of fraud and the devastation left in his path.

CREDITS

Guest: Justin Armsden
Host: Jessie Stephens
Executive Producer: Elise Cooper
Producer/Editor: Hannah Bowman

RESEARCH

60 Minutes Australia - Peter Foster: Notorious Aussie Playboy and con man. 1988 investigative by Mike Munro. https://bit.ly/peter-foster-60-mins
60 Minutes Australia - Secret recordings expose Australia's most notorious con man Peter Foster. 2020 https://bit.ly/ken-gamble-foster
Today Tonight and the underweight jockey SensaSlim claim is no stunt. https://bit.ly/today-tonight-sensaslim

LINKS

Justin Armsden’s podcast King Of Sting - https://adbl.co/3fgEAKy

CONTACT US

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The First Time He Hit Her: The Murder Of Tara Costigan Jul 01, 2020

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Tara Costigan was a hard working mum, friend, close with her family and liked by those who she met. She was also killed by her partner one week after giving birth to their daughter.

In this episode we speak with Heidi Lemon, that author of The First Time He Hit Her: the shocking true story of the murder of Tara Costigan, the woman next door.

Heidi spent the past few years devoted to writing the book, and worked closely with the Costigan family during the project.

Tara’s story is devastating. It is also not an anomaly. Heidi has worked to share Tara’s story in the hopes that more public conversations will continue to be had about Australia’s problem with domestic violence.

CREDITS

Guest: Heidi Lemon author of The First Time He Hit Her
Host: Jessie Stephens
Producer: Elise Cooper

RESEARCH

‘The First Time He Hit Her: the shocking true story of the murder of Tara Costigan, the woman next door’ book by Heidi Lemon https://bit.ly/tara-costigan-book
‘Tara Costigan: The Life and Death of a Victim of Domestic Violence’, 7:30 Report, ABC TV https://bit.ly/tara-730-report
‘A man, who murdered his ex-girlfriend with an axe while she was cradling their baby daughter, has been sentenced to at least 26 years in jail.’ Nine News https://bit.ly/3ePTo2h

CONTACT US

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If any parts of this episode raise issues for you please seek help via the resources below

Family Violence 1800 RESPECT - that’s 1800 737 732
Safe Steps in Victoria - 24 hour response line- safesteps.org.au
National services https://www.dvrcv.org.au/support-services/national-services

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