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    Trinity Forum Conversations

    Trinity Forum Conversations is a podcast exploring the big questions in life by looking to the best of the Christian intellectual tradition and elevating the voices, both ancient and modern, who grapple with these questions and direct our hearts to the Author of the answers. We invite you to join us in one of the great joys of life: a conversation among friends on the things that matter most.

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    Jane Austen and the Liturgies of Ordinary Life, with Karen Swallow Prior Jun 16, 2021
    Show notes

    This episode features a conversation we hosted on Friday, May 21st with author and Trinity Forum Senior Fellow Karen Swallow prior on Jane Austen and her novel approach to virtue. Speaking of Austen’s Christian faith, Prior says, “Hers was the restrained, quiet, and personal faith of her Anglican tradition. Her novels are less altar calls than liturgies of ordinary life.” Austen’s world may feel quite removed from ours, but her focus on such everyday liturgies illustrate the importance of the seemingly mundane and illuminate the path towards repaired and rightly ordered relationships.

    We hope you enjoy this conversation!

    Learn more about Karen Swallow Prior

    Watch the full Evening Conversation and read the transcript from May 21st, 2021.

    Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:

    Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, by Jane Austen
    Amusing Ourselves to Death, by Neil Postman
    Praying with Jane, by Rachel Dodge
    Alasdair MacIntyre
    William Shakespeare

    Related Trinity Forum Readings:

    • Pride and Prejudice, a Trinity Forum Reading by Jane Austen
    • Bulletins from Immortality, a Trinity Forum Reading by Emily Dickinson
    • Revelation, a Trinity Forum Reading by Flannery O’Connor
    • God's Grandeur , a Trinity Forum Reading by Gerard Manley Hopkins

    Dr. Karen Swallow Prior is Professor of English at Liberty University, where she has won multiple teaching awards. She writes frequently on literature, culture, ethics, and ideas. Her writing appears at Christianity Today, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, First Things, Vox, Think Christian, The Gospel Coalition, Books and Culture and other places. She is the author of Booked: Literature in the Soul of Me, Fierce Convictions: The Extraordinary Life of Hannah More—Poet, Reformer, Abolitionist , and On Reading Well: Finding the Good Life through Great Literature, and her most recent work Sense and Sensibility: A Guide to Reading and Reflecting.

    Special thanks to Ned Bustard for the artwork and Andrew Peterson for the music!


    Creativity for the Life of the World, with Sho Baraka Jun 16, 2021
    Show notes

    This episode features a conversation we hosted on Friday, May 14th with artist and author Sho Baraka for a conversation around his new book He Saw That It Was Good: Reimagining Your Creative Life To Repair A Broken World. Baraka says, “The command to love—in all the fullness and justice of that word—is laid on all, from politician to painter. With every policy pushed, every stroke of the brush, we put forth what we believe about God and about good. With what we make, we affect the world. For better or for worse.” In this conversation we explore how our creative gifts and good works can contribute to the care and repair of our hurting world. We hope you enjoy!

    Learn more about Sho Baraka


    Watch the full Evening Conversation and read the transcript from May 14, 2021.

    Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:

    100 Years of Solitude, by Gabriel García Márquez
    Frederick Douglass
    Flannery O’Connor
    G.K. Chesterton

    Related Trinity Forum Readings:

    • Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, a Trinity Forum Reading by Frederick Douglass
    • Revelation, a Trinity Forum Reading by Flannery O’Connor
    • The Strangest Story Ever Told, a Trinity Forum Reading by G.K. Chesterton.
    • Telling Truth to Kings, a Trinity Forum Reading by Reinhold Schneider

    Sho Baraka is a globally recognized recording artist, performer, culture curator, activist, and writer. His work combines his artistic platform with his academic history to contribute a unique perspective, elevating the contemporary conversation on faith, art, and culture. An alumnus of Tuskegee University and the University of North Texas, Baraka is a cofounder of Forth District and the AND Campaign, and he has served as an adjunct professor at Wake Forest School of Divinity. He was also an original member of influential hip-hop consortium 116 Clique, recording with Reach Records. Baraka lives in Atlanta with his wife Patreece and their three children.

    Special thanks to Ned Bustard for the artwork and Andrew Peterson for the music!


    A Theology of Making, with Makoto Fujimura Jun 16, 2021
    Show notes

    This episode features a conversation we originally hosted on Friday, January 29th with artist and author Makoto Fujimura on his recent book Art + Faith: A Theology of Making. Mako says, “I now consider what I do in the studio to be theological work as much as aesthetic work. I experience God, my Maker, in the studio. I am immersed in the art of creating, and I have come to understand this dimension of life as the most profound way of grasping human experience and the nature of our existence in the world. I call it the “Theology of Making.”

    We hope you enjoy this conversation exploring the theological work of creating.

    Learn more about Makoto Fujimura.


    Watch the full Evening Conversation and read the transcript from January 29th, 2021.


    Thanks to Windrider Productions and The Rabbit Room for their partnership on the event with Mako on January 29.


    Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:

    William Blake
    N.T. Wright
    Esther Meek
    The Gift, by Lewis Hyde
    Bruce Herman
    T.S. Eliot
    Amanda Gorman
    David Brooks
    Richard Mouw

    Learn more about Kintsugi.

    Related Trinity Forum Readings and Resources:

    • God's Grandeur , a Trinity Forum Reading by Gerard Manley Hopkins
    • Revelation, a Trinity Forum Reading by Flannery O’Connor
    • Letters from Vincent van Gogh, a Trinity Forum Reading by Vincent van Gogh
    • Hannah and Nathan, a Trinity Forum Reading by Wendell Berry
    • Culture Care: Mending to Make New, an Online Conversation with Mako Fujimura on August 7, 2020.
    • Culture Care, an Evening Conversation with Mako Fujimura on September 19, 2017.
    • Soul Care, an Evening Conversation with Mako Fujimura on March 31, 2016.

    Makoto Fujimura is a leading contemporary artist whose process driven, refractive “slow art” has been described by David Brooks of New York Times as “a small rebellion against the quickening of time”. In addition to his work as an artist Mako is an author whose works include Refractions: A Journey of Faith, Art, and Culture and his just released work Art + Faith: A Theology of Making. Mako is also a senior fellow of the Trinity forum.

    Special thanks to Ned Bustard for the artwork and Andrew Peterson for the music!


    The Good News and the Good Life, with N.T. Wright and Richard Hays Apr 28, 2021
    Show notes

    This conversation took place on February 24, 2016 at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. We welcomed scholars and theologians N.T. Wright and Richard B. Hays to discuss The Good News and The Good Life. In this eastertide season we hope this conversation will encourage and inspire us to live as resurrection people.


    Learn more about Richard Hays and N.T. Wright.

    Watch the full Evening Conversation and read the transcript from February 24, 2016.


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    Duke Divinity School — https://divinity.duke.edu

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    Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:


    Who Is This Man, by John Ortberg

    To Change the World, by James Davison Hunter

    The Cost of Discipleship, by Dietrich Bonhoeffer


    Related Trinity Forum Readings:

    • The Strangest Story Ever Told, a Trinity Forum Reading by G.K. Chesterton.
    • Who Stands Fast, a Trinity Forum Reading by Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
    • Devotions, a Trinity Forum Reading by John Donne, introduced and paraphrased by Philip Yancey.

    Richard Hayes is internationally recognized as one of the foremost biblical scholars bridging the disciplines between biblical criticism and literary studies. He served for many years, both as the Dean and the George Washington IB Professor of New Testament at Duke Divinity School. Prior to coming to Duke, he served on the faculty of Yale Divinity School and his many books include, 'The Faith of Jesus Christ,' 'Echos of Scripture and the Letters of Paul,' 'The Moral Vision of the New Testament,' which was selected by Christianity Today as one of the hundred most important books of the 20th century, 'The Art of Reading Scripture,' and most recently, 'Reading Backwards.'

    He's also an ordained minister in the United Methodist Church and has preached in settings ranging from rural Oklahoma to Westminster Abbey, as well as serving on the editorial boards of numerous scholarly journals, he holds a PhD from Emory, an honorary doctorate from Gerta University, and degrees from Yale.

    N.T. Wright is a theologian academic author and minister who has been called by such sources as Time and Newsweek as one of the world's leading New Testament scholars and the most formidable figure in the world of Christian thought. He serves as the research professor of New Testament, the University of St. Andrews in Scotland and previously taught New Testament at Cambridge, McGill and Oxford Universities for over 20 years, and then held various posts in the Church of England, most recently as the Bishop of Durham. Dr. Wright is the author of over 80 different books, including 'Simply Good News,' 'How God Became King,' 'Simply Jesus,' 'Surprised by Scripture,' and many others and holds honorary doctorates from over a dozen different universities.


    Crisis and Christian Humanism, with Alan Jacobs Apr 28, 2021
    Show notes

    On Friday, July 10th we welcomed distinguished professor, author, and scholar Alan Jacobs to discuss his ever-timely book The Year of Our Lord 1943: Christian Humanism in an Age of Crisis. In his book, Jacobs describes how after the second World War, five Christian intellectuals presented strikingly similar visions for the moral and spiritual renewal of their countries.

    Jacques Maritain, T. S. Eliot, C. S. Lewis, W. H. Auden, and Simone Weil all believed the renewal of their respective societies in the aftermath of World War II would come through education that was grounded in a Christian understanding of the power and limitations of human beings. Alan helped us consider the ways our world is changing due to our current crisis, and look back to these Christian intellectuals and their vision for cultivating a flourishing society and rebuilding a shared sense of the common good after world-wide disruption. We hope you enjoy this conversation!

    Watch the full Online Conversation and read the transcript here.


    Learn more about Alan Jacobs.


    Alan Jacobs’ Books:

    Breaking Bread with the Dead: A Reader’s Guide to a more Tranquil Mind, The Year of our Lord 1943: Christian Humanism in an Age of Crisis, How to Think: A Survival Guide for a World at Odds, The Book of Common Prayer: A Biography.

    Baylor University Great Texts Program


    Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:

    Education at the Crossroads by Jacques Maritain

    The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis

    Vocation and Society, a lecture given at Swarthmore College by W.H. Auden

    Christianity and Culture by T.S. Elliot

    Between Past and Future, by Hannah Arendt

    Rationalism in Politics, by Michael Oakeshott

    Roberts Coles - Harvard Professor.

    Bleak House, by Charles Dickens

    C.S. Lewis - “The Inner Ring,” “Membership,” Abolition of Man, That Hideous Strength.

    Leszek Kolakowski

    George Eliot

    Søren Kierkegaard


    Related Trinity Forum Readings and Resources:

    • Wrestling with God, by Simone Weil
    • Origins of Totalitarianism, by Hannah Arendt
    • Brave New World, by Aldous Huxley
    • Politics and the English Language, by George Orwell
    • How Much Land Does A Man Need, by Leo Tolstoy
    • A Christmas Carol, by Charles Dickens
    • Poetry, Imagination, and Spiritual Formation, an Evening Conversation with Dana Gioia featuring the poetry of W.H. Auden.
    • The Decadent Society, an Evening Conversation with Ross Douthat and Christine Emba.

    Alan Jacobs is a scholar, English literature, a writer, a literary critic. He's a distinguished professor of the humanities and the honors college at Baylor university and previously taught for nearly 30 years at Wheaton college in Illinois, a prolific author and a wide ranging thinker. He's written for such publications as The Atlantic, Harper's, Comment, The New Yorker, the Weekly Standard and the Hedgehog Review and has published more than 15 different books on a wide range of topics from literature, technology theology and cognitive psychology, including How to Think, The Book of Common Prayer, the book we're discussing today, The Year of our Lord 1943, which was named by the Wall Street Journal is one of their best books on politics for the year of 2018 and many more, including the forthcoming book, Breaking Bread with the Dead: A Reader's Guide to a more Tranquil Mind, which is available now.



    Story, Culture, & the Common Good, with Marilynne Robinson Apr 28, 2021
    Show notes

    On Friday, July 24th we were honored to host award-winning and much-beloved novelist and essayist, Marilynne Robinson for a wide-ranging conversation on the art of writing as a means of exploring truth and engaging the questions around learning to live well, to love others, and to create a home and community in an often fractious world. Robinson, known for her keen observations on humanity and religion has plumbed the depths of the human spirit in her novels, including the National Book Critics Circle Award-winning Lila, and the Pulitzer Prize-winning Gilead. We hope you enjoy this conversation on “Story, Culture, and the Common Good.”

    Watch the full Online Conversation and read the transcript here.


    Marilynne Robinson's Novels | Housekeeping, Gilead, Home, Lila

    Article in Breaking Ground from our event.


    Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:

    Marcel Proust

    Ralph Waldo Emmerson

    Paul Harding

    Walt Witman

    William Faulkner

    John Calvin

    Jonathan Edwards

    Moby Dick, by Herman Mellville

    Piers Plowman, by William Langland


    Related Trinity Forum Readings:

    • Sacred and Profane Love | A Trinity Forum Reading by John Donne
    • Bulletins from Immortality| A Trinity Forum Reading by Emily Dickinson
    • Confessions| A Trinity Forum Reading by Saint Augustine
    • Brave New World| A Trinity Forum Reading by Aldous Huxley

    Marilynne Robinson is a novelist, essayist, and teacher, one of the most renowned and revered of living writers. Her novels Housekeeping, Gilead, Lila, and Home have been variously honored with the Pulitzer Prize, National Books Critics Circle Award (twice), a Hemingway Foundation Award, an Orange Prize, The Library of Congress Prize for American Fiction, and the Ambassador Book Award. She's also the author of many essays and non-fiction works, including her work, “Mother Country”, and her essay collections, “Death of Adam,” “Absence of Mind,” “When I was a Child I Read Books,” “The Givenness of Things,” and “What Are We Doing Here?”. She's the recipient of the National Humanities Medal and an elected fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. In addition to her writing has spent over 20 years teaching at the Iowa Writers Workshop, as well as several universities.



    Caring for Words in a Culture of Lies with Marilyn McEntyre Feb 24, 2021
    Show notes

    On Friday, July 17, 2020 we welcomed writer, poet, and professor Marilyn McEntyre for an Online Conversation to discuss her provocative book, Caring for Words in a Culture of Lies. The book focuses on the morality, power, and importance of caring for language. She notes that caring for one another is not entirely separable from caring for words. Words are entrusted to us as equipment for our life together, to help us survive, guide, and nourish one another. If language is to retain its power to nourish and sustain our common life, we have to care for it the way good farmers care for the earth.


    • Learn more about Marilyn McEntyre
    • Watch the full Online Conversation video and read the transcript
    • Watch our Online Conversation with Marilyn McEntyre and David Bailey on “Speaking Peace and Seeking Reconciliation.”
    • Check out her brand new book called Where the Eye Alights: Reflections for the Forty Days of Lent.


    Authors mentioned in the conversation:

    • Jane Austen
    • Ezra Pound - “Go in fear of abstractions.”
    • George Steiner - Real Presences
    • Theodor Adorno
    • William Faulkner
    • Wendell Berry


    Books mentioned in the conversation:

    • The Road to Character, by David Brooks
    • Blind Spot, by Mahzarin R. Banaji and Anthony G. Greenwald
    • Winnie the Pooh, by A.A. Milne
    • Little Women, by Louis May Alcott
    • The Scarlet Letter, by Nathaniel Hawthorne
    • Moby Dick, by Herman Melville
    • Middlemarch, by George Eliot
    • Prayers of the Cosmos and The Hidden Gospel by Neil Douglass Klutz

    BBC Radio Program - My Word

    Related Trinity Forum Readings:

    • Politics and the English Language, by George Orwell
    • Bulletins from Immortality, by Emily Dickinson
    • Letters from Van Gogh, by Vincent Van Gogh
    • Hannah and Nathan, by Wendell Berry

    Special thanks to Ned Bustard for the artwork and Andrew Peterson for the music!


    Believing a Truer Story, with Curt Thompson Feb 24, 2021
    Show notes

    On Good Friday, April 10, 2020 The Trinity Forum hosted psychiatrist Curt Thompson for an Online Conversation to discuss his insights on suffering, shame, and isolation, which are felt acutely in the COVID-19 pandemic. Curt’s word for us in this time is to be of good cheer—our King is coming!


    Dr. Curt Thompson is a psychiatrist, author and speaker who specializes in connecting our intrinsic desire to be known with the need to tell truer stories about ourselves — showing us how to form deep relationships, discover meaning and live integrated, creative lives. Curt Thompson’s books Anatomy of the Souland The Soul of Shame speak to the innermost desires of our hearts and souls, bringing together a dialect of interpersonal neurobiology and a Christian anthropology to uncover the key to living life fully: being known. To do that, we need genuine relationships, which can only be found when we tell the whole truth about who we are — to ourselves and others.

    • Curt Thompson is a Trinity Forum Senior Fellow
    • Learn more about Curt Thompson
    • Curt’s reflection mentioned in the conversation
    • Watch the full Online Conversation with Curt
    • Watch our Evening Conversation with Curt on his book The Soul of Shame from October 2015

      Special thanks to Ned Bustard for the artwork and Andrew Peterson for the music!


    Redeeming a Culture of Contempt, with Arthur Brooks Feb 23, 2021
    Show notes

    On Friday, September 25 we had the privilege of hosting best-selling author, thought leader, and Harvard Business and Kennedy School professor Arthur Brooks for an Online Conversation on “Redeeming a Culture of Contempt.” In his book, Love Your Enemies Brooks blends cutting-edge behavioral research and ancient wisdom to offer a better way to bridge divides and mend relationships. Brooks helps us to think about practical ways we can choose to love those we disagree with—to will their good and be agents of redemption and reconciliation amidst a divisive time.


    Learn more about Arthur Brooks


    Watch the full video and read the transcript of our conversation with Arthur


    Resources mentioned during the conversation:

    • Martin Luther King Jr. Sermon on Matthew 5:44
    • Robert Putnam, Bowling Alone
    • Letter from Birmingham Jail, a Trinity Forum Reading by Martin Luther King Jr.
    • Long Walk to Freedom, a Trinity Forum Reading by Nelson Mandela
    • David Brooks, The Social Animal
    • Trinity Forum Evening Conversation with Robert George and Cornel West in Nashville, TN
    • Trinity Forum Evening Conversation with Arthur Brooks and Justin Giboney in Washington, D.C.

    Special thanks to Ned Bustard for the artwork and Andrew Peterson for the music!


    Season 1 | Trailer Feb 17, 2021
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    Special thanks to Ned Bustard for the artwork and Andrew Peterson for the music!


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