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    Transformative Principal

    Jethro Jones interviews instructional leaders from around the nation to learn and teach what it takes to become a transformative principal. Episodes address topics like Response to Intervention (RTI), Multi-Tiered System of Support (MTSS), Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports (PBIS), the latest advances in educational research, standards-based grading, and interviews with industry leaders like Bill Daggett, Rick Wormeli, Todd Whitaker and even people outside the education like Seth Godin, JeVon McCormick, Liz Wiseman, and more.

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    Bot's Up, Doc? with Jethro Jones Transformative Principal 542 Jul 03, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Jethro and Fred discuss chatbots and artificial intelligence. The episode covers the history of chatbots, including the Turing Test and the development of Large Language Models (LLMs) such as ChatGPT, Bing, and Jasper. The potential uses and issues with chatbots are explored, including incomplete or misinformation, theft of intellectual property, inappropriate uses, and threats to various types of jobs. The episode also touches on the impact of chatbots on education and the potential for the weaponization of disinformation, cybersecurity, and more emotion-targeted advertising.

    • Beginning of Cybertraps Podcast Episode Index
    • Writebettr.com - test out AI with your poorly written emails
    • AILeader.info - learn about AI and how to use it to save time with 3-minute masterclasses.
    • Today’s Topic: Bot’s Up, Doc?
    • Keynote delivered at last minute for Alaska Society for Technology in Education
    • Artificial Life and Artificial Intelligence
      • Why chatbots are NOT “artificial intelligence” – yet
    • “The Father of Chat”
      • The Turing Test
      • Alan Turing OBE FRS [1912–1954] – British mathematician and computer scientist
      • Leader in the development of computer and algorithmic theory
      • At Bletchley Park, helped design a machine to crack the Enigma code
      • 1950 – Turing devises The Turing Test:
        • Can a computer produce answers indistinguishable from a human?
        • The Imitation Game
      • 1954 – Turing commits suicide
    • Large Language Models (LLMs)
      • ChatGPT (esp. 4)
      • Bing
      • Jasper
      • embedded AI
      • Photoshop
      • Google Workspace
      • incredibly rapid change
    • Current ChatGPT Issues
      • Incomplete Data or Misinformation
      • Theft of Intellectual Property
      • Inappropriate Uses
      • Response to MSU Shooting
      • Threat to Various Types of Jobs
      • Mid-to Lower-Level Tech
      • Media / PR Professionals
      • Customer Service
      • Paralegals / Attorneys?
      • Religious Leaders?
      • Monetization
    • A Quick Object Lesson
      • Censorship Is a Biz-Kill
      • China Was a Tech Leader in the 2010s
      • WeChat
      • AliPay
      • Beijing (CCP) Got Nervous
      • Party Officials Took Corporate Seats
      • The goal Was to Limit Social Influence
      • Chinese Tech Companies Slashed Investment in Pure Research
    • ChatGPT and Education
      • A Flawed Resource for Students
      • Incomplete Information
      • Misinformation
      • Kids Will Use Technology to Cheat
        • Not the First Time …
        • Several Schools Have Had Cheating Scandals
        • NYC Blocked, then Unblocked, Access to ChatGPT
      • Responses and Solutions
      • Tools for Identifying Chat-Generated Content
      • Incorporate Chat Critiques into Curricula
      • The Revenge of the Palmer Method?
      • Create Assessments that ChatGPT Can’t Answer
    • The Parade of Horribles
      • Weaponization of Disinformation
      • Cybersecurity
      • Social Engineering
      • Scams and Spams
      • Manipulative Suggestions
      • Integration with Other Technologies
      • More Emotion-Targeted Advertising
      • Displaced Emotional Relationships
      • Personalized Chatbot (“Amanuensis”)
      • Fasten Your Seat Belt. It’s Going to Be a Bumpy Night.

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    The Future is Now Summer of AI Series on Transformative Principal with Nancy Giordano Episode 540 Jun 29, 2023
    Show notes

    Based in wonder and optimism, Nancy Giordano is an exponential strategist focused on building a safe, inclusive, thriving future. Believing we have a once in a generation opportunity to rethink, reimagine and reshape every industry and social construct we call life, she supports and champions those actively architecting bold solutions and guides the visionary leaders eager to meet this call. An active strategist working on horizon solutions, Nancy is eager to share her insights on emerging technologies and shifting cultural expectations in ways that get everyone deeply motivated by the possibilities…and confident to start building.

    This episode is brought to you by AILeader.info, where you can learn all about AI specifically in a place designed for educators through 3-minute masterclasses.

    • Life hack - make up your job
    • Job is labeled or defined
    • Can’t use a map anymore, so we need a compass - What does the future need and expect, and what am I in a unique position to create and contribute
    • Compass allows you to sense and respond
    • purpose and intention
    • lenses to the future - personal, community, society
    • expectations and opportunities as a member of the community
    • Watched the movie “Her”
    • It didn’t come out of nowhere
    • Speech that can be fabricated See Episode 537
    • History teachers may be best prepared.
    • Literacies
    • Dreams and the role they play in our psychological well-being
    • Joined an AI startup 8 years ago.
    • Humanity Bill of Rights
    • How do we build better decision-making framing
    • David Ogilvy - give me the freedom of a tightly defined strategy.
    • We can all agree on these 10–12 things
    • SAMR Model
    • The more students have to go outside the system for what they think is important the less the value is that degree.
    • It’s a tool that helps us
    • What are the use cases for AI?
    • Responsible AI institute
    • Scale the conversation around ethics
    • Algorithm and data
    • Huge structural changes
    • Teachers who have it are that much more impactful and great.
    • Part of the reason we have a mental health crisis is that kids don’t feel totally prepared for the future.
    • Gravitate towards those who are preparing us well.
    • SWOT Analysis - RIFF Map - Relieved, inspired, frustrated, Fearful
    • Things you’re frightened by
    • Head to nancygiordano.com and check out the book LEADERing.

    Summer of AI - learn all about AI in a safe, supportive community focused on school leaders and applications of AI to school environments - aileader.info


    We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL.


    IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:

    • Simplify and streamline technology
    • Save teachers’ time
    • Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
    • Improve student performance on state assessments


    🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.


    Using AI in Turnaround Schools with Dr. Scott Neil Transformative Principal 539 Jun 22, 2023
    Show notes

    This episode is part of the Summer of AI series presented by AILeader.info. AILeader.info makes the abstract actionable by helping you stay on the cutting edge with 3-minute masterclasses that teach you what you need to know about AI in just 3 minutes or less. To join, go to AILeader.info

    • Got key people to be successful.
    • Curriculum alignment
    • Instructional rigor
    • advanced models for schools
    • Teacher Planning - is the source of what teachers are doing.
    • Is ChatGPT the best for lesson planning?
    • More advanced models exist.
    • Machine Learning will actually remember the moves and methods of a teacher.
    • Almost like having a coach built into your model.
    • Bard with Google
    • ASU+GSV conference
    • FineTune - If you’re serious, you need better language models.
    • Provides references to everything that it creates.
    • School districts can go in with more confidence because there is less bias.
    • AI is going to be the path.
    • Dual challenge for school districts - figure out a policy on AI
    • Don’t worry about AI taking your job, worry about the person who knows AI taking your job.
    • You can control AI and put parameters around it.
    • Intervention plans for students at the completion of a lesson.
    • The human element goes into what are the rules you’re telling the AI to do.
    • Make a strategic plan to get AI out there in a sensible way.
    • AI models in SEL
    • 90% of the time
    • Teaching people how to be good prompt engineers
    • Explain it to me like you’re a consultant.
    • Jasper for Copywriting
    • Machine Learning - it learns what you’re looking for.
    • Mazy pulls from four different types of sources
    • How to be careful about what you adopt.
    • How this should be impacting teaching and learning.
    • People are thinking that kids are cheating.
    • Aligning to the 21st century world of work. Global achievement gap.
    • What are the skills kids are going to need?
    • Kids need the assistance of a teacher when they are stuck.
    • Why wouldn’t we have AI take the place of teachers if the AI can do it better?
    • What is a teacher going to be in the future?
    • We had a chance to make a real impact
    • Just design a great lesson.

    - #1 thing that catches kids up 3 years in 1 year - is feedback.
    - Ego-involved feedback vs. task-involved feedback.
    - Data’s getting stale - 48 hours
    - How to make sure teachers have time to do what they need.
    - Lead180.com
    - educompass.app

    About Scott Neil

    Dr. Scott Neil is a nationally recognized expert in the area of school turnaround with a focus on Data-Driven Instruction and instructional leadership. With a Ph.D. in Educational Leadership and 20 years of school and district leadership experience in urban education, Scott has led the turnaround of five different urban schools in Florida over his 31-year career in education. Dr. Neil spent six years working as a national subject matter expert, training facilitator, and principal coach with the national nonprofit organization New Leaders, whose mission is to prepare educators to become transformational school principals across eleven cities within the United States. Scott founded LEAD180 in 2014 to help provide support to schools across the country in the area of instructional planning and the alignment to the Cognitive Rigor of College and Career Ready Standards.

    Bringing a unique combination of deep experience as both a practitioner and researcher in the field of school leadership within high poverty school settings, Scott has trained and mentored over 400 principals, 400 emerging school leaders, and over 5,000 teachers over the course of his career.


    We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL.


    IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:

    • Simplify and streamline technology
    • Save teachers’ time
    • Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
    • Improve student performance on state assessments


    🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.


    How Superintedents are Approaching AI with Jeremy Tucker Transformative Principal Summer of AI Series Episode 538 Jun 18, 2023
    Show notes

    Dr. Tucker brings a unique perspective with a lifetime of learning experiences overseas and in the United States. Having grown up traveling back and forth between Africa and the United States he experienced a variety of learning environments. He credits his mom, his first homeschool teacher, teachers at an international school, and numerous Missouri educators for his decision to pursue a career in education. His experiences have influenced his commitment to designing learner-centered educational experiences.

    He currently serves as the Superintendent of Liberty Public Schools. During his time in LPS, the District opened EPiC Elementary (2022 National Blue Ribbon School), partnered with industry to create Kansas City Tech Academy, established the UnSchool Challenge, and rolled out several micro schools including HMS by Design, EDGE, North Nation By Design, and Warren Hills Reimagined. These innovations evolved through a commitment to answering the question, “What does it mean to be learner-centered?” and always thinking about what lies at the edge of vision. In 2017 Liberty Public Schools was accepted into the Digital Promise League of Innovative Schools. League districts pioneer innovative learning and leadership practices that lead to improved outcomes for students and that help prepare them for learning for life.

    Moving closer to the “edge of vision,” Dr. Tucker has led the LPS community in designing a Graduate Profile, establishing a Vivid Vision, development of an equity-centered strategic plan, and advanced Real World Learning networks across the Kansas City metropolitan area.

    Dr. Tucker was identified as a “20 to Watch” educator for 2016–2017 by the National School Boards Association. In 2019, Dr. Tucker was named the 2019 Missouri Superintendent of the Year.

    This episode is brought to you by AILeader.info, where you can learn all about AI specifically in a place designed for educators through 3-minute masterclasses.

    • Understanding what we mean by Artificial intelligence and how rapidly it is evolving.
    • How do we leverage our data in a better way?
    • How might we leverage artificial intelligence
    • Jobs that could be created vs jobs eliminated.
    • It’s about how we do our jobs.
    • It’s important to have our
    • Leveraging group think and group feedback to get to the sentiment of
    • Making qualitiative data quantifiable
    • Interoperability of systems - Could AI help our systems communicate
    • Word Clouds
    • Valuable skill that could be lost? Did I really capture everything?
    • Allowing people to get their hands dirty with the feedback.
    • How do we make sure that people have the ability to live in both
    • GIGO garbage in garbage out.
    • Machine learning in the computer
    • Don’t want to miss the critical thinking piece where they just take the CSV file without understanding how things are working.
    • AI is not an emerging field,
    • It’s accelerating. It’s probably worth recognizing we’re all learners.
    • We’re fairly progressive
    • Care for the present and enabling the future.
    • At times we’re learning or leading.
    • how does this fit into my content area or my grade level?
    • ChatGPT
    • How do I integrate this into my classwork?
    • Is there any difference between a teacher using ChatGPT and and Teachers Pay Teachers
    • OER district, using available-online curriculum.
    • Really understand the validity of the resource
    • Traditional Resource Adoption vs. OER resource adoption.
    • Curricular teams have choice
    • Professional development, how to navigate that.
    • How teachers will look at educational resources and professional development
    • Field trips for admin & teachers to learn from other industries.
    • What do we learn from other industries?
    • For what experiences is there no substitute?
    • Starts with human elements, and then we slide in the academic areas.
    • Engagement - how do we ensure that everyone is engaged? Improving 2 way communication and engagement opportunities.
    • How to connect with Jeremy - LPS53.org, follow on jtucker.tm

    OER expert - Jeannette Westfall -


    We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL.


    IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:

    • Simplify and streamline technology
    • Save teachers’ time
    • Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
    • Improve student performance on state assessments


    🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.


    APLUS framework for adopting AI with Jethro Jones Summer of AI Series Transformative Principal 537 Jun 12, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Jethro Jones introduces the Summer of AI Series on Transformative Principal. All summer, we’ve got some great interviews scheduled to come out with believers, skeptics, and everyone in between all about AI.

    See the APLUS framework here


    Join the conversation by joining our Facebook group here


    And, Jethro also shares the AILeader.info resource, a membership site to help you learn how to save time and energy by learning how to use AI most effectively as a school leader. Join here.


    Jethro also shares the APLUS framework for adopting AI in schools:

    1. Accessibility: Ensure that AI-driven educational tools and resources are accessible to all learners, regardless of their backgrounds, abilities, or disabilities. Design AI systems that accommodate diverse learning styles and provide inclusive learning experiences for all students.
    2. Privacy and Ethics: Uphold strong ethical standards in the design, development, and deployment of AI technologies in education. Safeguard student privacy, ensuring transparent data collection and usage practices. Proactively address bias, fairness, and accountability concerns to maintain trust and protect the rights of learners.
    3. Learner-centricity: Place learners at the center of AI integration in education. Prioritize their well-being, agency, and autonomy in the learning process. Promote critical thinking, creativity, and problem-solving skills while using AI as a supportive tool rather than a replacement for human interaction and guidance. This means that we cannot implement tools that make teachers’ lives easier if it actually makes students’ lives worse! One of the things that I have been hearing a lot of lately is that adults want to use AI to help them do their jobs, but at the same time want to prevent students from using AI and start calling it plagiarism or academic dishonestly. OK for me, but not for thee, is a bad way to approach this new technology.
    4. Usability: Develop AI-based educational tools and platforms that are user-friendly and intuitive for both students and educators. Prioritize simplicity, clear interfaces, and streamlined experiences, enabling easy adoption and minimizing technical barriers for all stakeholders.
    5. Sustainability: Consider the long-term impact and sustainability of AI integration in education. Embrace scalable and cost-effective solutions that benefit educational institutions and accommodate future advancements. Promote environmental sustainability by optimizing energy consumption and minimizing electronic waste.
      These principles, known as APLUS, emphasize the importance of privacy, ethics, and responsible data practices in AI integration in education. By prioritizing accessibility, learner-centricity, usability, and sustainability alongside privacy and ethics, we can create an educational environment that harnesses the power of AI while ensuring the well-being and rights of learners are protected.



    We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL.


    IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:

    • Simplify and streamline technology
    • Save teachers’ time
    • Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
    • Improve student performance on state assessments


    🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.


    Helping Staff Come into a New School with Eric Makelky and Jethro Jones Transformative Principal 536 Jun 05, 2023
    Show notes

    This is a continuation of our coaching calls with Eric Makelky. Please check our previous episodes 532527523 519 514, 510, 506, and 501

    In this episode, we talk about onboarding new staff.

    • What Eric has done that has been helpful.
    • District duties and Principal duties.
    • How do we make people stick around?
    • New Teacher Academy - in-house teachers come in and model, share, and showcase practices from their classroom.
    • In-house people leading these things.
    • Half-day around the building - basic information.
    • Make a list, and trickle in during the summer.
    • And what do they really need to be ready for the first day of school?
    • Resources, curriculum, plan, classroom management.
    • Big Picture vs. Details.
    • How do you do that?
    • Trello Board about onboarding
    • How do you avoid overwhelming them?
    • Identify what is really valuable and what is extra
    • Mentoring new teachers
    • How do you not force mentoring on teachers?
    • Collaborative teams within PLCs.
      1. Solid mentor
      2. Mentorship is done according to the needs of the mentee
      3. It’s about mentoring culture not just pedagogy.
    • Have retired teachers come and be mentors when appropriate.

    We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL.


    IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:

    • Simplify and streamline technology
    • Save teachers’ time
    • Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
    • Improve student performance on state assessments


    🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.


    Building Momentum with Danny Bauer Transformative Principal 535 Jun 01, 2023
    Show notes

    Danny Bauer is a

    • Principal Development & Retention Expert
    • Best Selling Author
    • And Host of Two of the World’s Most Downloaded Podcasts
    • As the Chief Ruckus Maker, he founded Better Leaders Better Schools in 2015.

    In this episode, we talk about his new book and other various and random things.

    • Why an experimental mindset is so important.
    • Deliver a result in as few words as possible
    • Build Leadership Momentum
    • Gift yourself a 3-hour deep work block
    • Perfect principal entry plan
    • John Unger - after I started this all the stress was gone.
    • Should veteran school leaders still pick up this book?
    • How to get out of your own head?
    • Imagine worst-case scenarios.
    • I’ve already imagined worse than this.
    • What would it take for you to hold this with an open hand?
    • Outcomes are never in your control, inputs are.
    • 5 categories within the framework - start with the individual school leader, ruckus maker mindset tool.
    • Everything else builds on top of each other and leads to
    • Significant and legacy work is not found in operations.
    • The mark you leave on a campus is found on the other parts besides
    • Breaking up the entry plan to focus on significant time periods.
    • Each campus is different and has unique needs.
    • Take action
    • How to turn off the noise.
    • Get the book here: buildleadershipmomentum.com
    • Bonuses:

    We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL.


    IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:

    • Simplify and streamline technology
    • Save teachers’ time
    • Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
    • Improve student performance on state assessments


    🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.


    From Conflict to Collaboration with Dr. Robert Feirsen and Dr Seth Weitzman Transformative Principal 534 May 28, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, we talk with Dr. Robert Feirsen and Dr. Seth Weitzman about their new book From Conflict to Collaboration: A School Leader’s Guide to Unleashing Conflict’s Problem-Solving Power.

    We talk about how to avoid conflict, the three A’s to approach conflict, and much more.

    About the Guests
    Dr. Robert Feirsen is currently an associate professor and coordinator of the Educational Leadership Program at Manhattanville College. Previously, he was assistant professor and chair of the Education Department at the New York Institute of Technology. A former SAANYS member, Dr. Feirsen enjoyed a distinguished career in P-12 schools. As a school building leader in Westchester and Nassau Counties, he served as an elementary school principal, a middle school assistant principal, and a middle school principal. At the central office level, he served as an assistant superintendent for curriculum and instruction, deputy superintendent, and superintendent of schools. Dr. Feirsen taught at the elementary, middle, and high school levels as a social studies and special education teacher in schools in New York City before moving into supervisory roles. Dr. Feirsen holds an Ed.D. from Fordham University. Dr. Feirsen’s research interests include addressing organizational conflict, the school principal-school counselor relationship, principal and teacher retention, the relationship between psychological ownership and professional learning, college readiness, and the applications of design thinking. His research and other articles have been published in a number of academic journals, as well as Educational Leadership and Education Week. Dr. Feirsen has led workshops at such venues as ASCD, the American School Counselor Association (ASCA), the American Association of Colleges for Teacher Education (AACTE), and the American Educational Research Association (AERA). With Seth Weitzman, he has presented at national and statewide conferences including ASCD, the New York State Council of School Superintendents (NYSCOSS), and the New York Association of Colleges for Teacher Education (NYACTE). Seth Weitzman is also the co-author of From Conflict to Collaboration: A School Leader’s Guide to Unleashing Conflict’s Problem-Solving Power and How to Get the Teaching Job You Want.

    Dr. Seth Weitzman sat in a middle school principal’s chair for 27 years in Nassau and Westchester counties. Leadership positions included co-president of the Mamaroneck administrators’ union, president of the Nassau County, and later, the Westchester County Middle School Principals’ Association, and a New York State Middle-Level Liaison (a working group of principals representing every county and BOCES in New York State meeting with NYSED officials). Together with Dr. Robert Feirsen, he is the co-author of two books: How to Get the Teaching Job You Want and From Conflict to Collaboration: A School Leader’s Guide to Unleashing Conflict’s Problem-Solving Power. He is either author or co-author of a number of articles published in national education journals including Educational Leadership and American Middle-Level Education Magazine. Drs. Feirsen and Weitzman have presented in numerous professional association conferences at the county, state, and local levels (e.g. Association for Supervision and Curriculum Development, American Association of School Personnel Administrators, New York State Middle School Association, New York State Association of Teacher Educators) and graduate-level classes (Teachers College, Bank Street College of Education). He is currently Senior Instructor in the Mercy College Educational Leadership Department. His 40-year education career began teaching elementary school and middle school in Connecticut and New York City. He holds an EdD from Teachers College, Columbia University.


    We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL.


    IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:

    • Simplify and streamline technology
    • Save teachers’ time
    • Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
    • Improve student performance on state assessments


    🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.


    Designing a Student-Driven CTE School with Shelley Groves Transformative Principal 533 May 23, 2023
    Show notes

    Shelley Groves is an assistant superintendent of a Career Technical Education Planning District in Ohio. In this podcast, she shares her experiences with CTE, work-based learning experiences, how she keeps kids from failing, and how she has changed the curriculum to give students more choice while still focusing on the standards. She also talks about the collaboration between the two campuses and the Focus Friday pilot program that has helped to build more effective relationships.

    • In Ohio, CTE can be delivered several different ways: career technical planning district
    • One exceptional experience. 2 campuses, Fairfield and Franklin Counties
    • Only juniors and seniors.
    • From career exploration to workforce development.
    • How far do kids have to travel. 1 hour bus ride for some.
    • Perkins funding comes with CTE.
    • Required to have work-based learning experiences.
    • Failure is not an option.
    • My students don’t fail, because I don’t give them an option.
    • Kids are leaving and working on the job.
    • AASA last year - listening to one of the speakers. Why are we afraid to ask for student feedback.
    • What are we afraid they are going to say?
    • Looking at our curriculum, students who come here are hands-on, but over the past years, our academic model didn’t reflect what’s happening in our CTE labs.
    • How do we help students love the academic model?
    • Gave students Children’s literature class and Inquiry passion projects based on their own interests.
    • Some students don’t report to campus at all.
    • Stopped doing English 11 and started giving kids more choice so they could focus on the standards.
    • Scary thing for teachers because they have to learn with the students.
    • The teacher already knows the standards.
    • Are you getting what you need from this class?
    • Two campuses - struggling with collaboration.
    • Two schools working independently of each other.
    • Teachers wondering if they are going to go through it every year?
    • How do we make classes sufficient so that kids can do things in any section or period?
    • Applied academics - kids who are in construction go to each of their classes together.
    • Students’ concerns are that they don’t want to be identified by just their program.
    • Pilot Program - Focus Fridays - no classes on those days, different sessions you can attend.
    • How different classes have helped teachers build more effective relationships.
    • Kids really feel like the school is committed to them as an individual.
    • Passion for learning, what better way to model this than to give kids opportunities to do what classes they want.
    • Applications are up by 300 students.
    • Lots of communication behind the “Why”
    • How can you fix the academic part of it?
    • Why are we teaching what we’re teaching and how are we teaching it?
    • How to be a transformative Principal? Try something new. Model something new for your staff and don’t give up.


    About our Guest


    Shelley Groves has been in education for 25 years, started as teacher of math and now overseeing curriculum as assistant superintendent of a CTE Planning District. They serve 16 schools districts


    About our Host


    Jethro Jones, 2017 Digital Principal of the Year, is a former principal and founder of the BE Podcast Network. He is also the author of the books How to be a Transformative Principal and SchoolX: How principals can design a transformative school experience for students, teachers, parents – and themselves! Jethro currently speaks around the country on a variety of subjects from principal leadership to student driven learning. Jethro has worked as a principal at all K–12 levels, including a prison school, a district coach, distance learning team lead, and English teacher.


    We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL.


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    • Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
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    🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.


    Dealing with Difficult Parents with Eric Makelky and Jethro Jones Transformative Principal 532 May 08, 2023
    Show notes

    This is a continuation of our coaching calls with Eric Makelky. Please check in our previous episodes 527, 523, 519, 514, 510, 506, and 501

    In this episode we talk about dealing with difficult parents. - Celebration - Just calling someone who applied. - Someone applying - Reaching out immediately - Making it personal. - Parents - How to get them on your team? - 25–30 parents now on the advisory council. - Challenges with parents - Being a successful principal is about being popular and making everyone happy. - Parents can be really challenging. - Education is the parents’ responsibility and we are here to help out. - What about when there isn’t a reason? - I’m recording this conversation…Me, too. - Would you like me to send a copy to you? - Intimidation approaches - Next time: so many things to learn that I didn’t have things in place for helping new staff. How do I help new staff transition in? Sponsors

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    Being a principal is tough work. You’re pulled in all kinds of directions. You never have the time to do the work that really matters. Join me as I help school leaders find the time to do the work they became principals to do.

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    Learn more at https://transformativeprincipal.com


    We’re proud to be sponsored by IXL.


    IXL’s comprehensive teaching and learning platform for math, language arts, science, and social studies is accelerating achievement in 95 of the top 100 U.S. school districts. Loved by teachers and backed by independent research from Johns Hopkins University, IXL can help you do the following and more:

    • Simplify and streamline technology
    • Save teachers’ time
    • Reliably meet Tier 1 standards
    • Improve student performance on state assessments


    🚀 Ready to see why leading districts trust IXL for their educational needs? Visit IXL.com/BE today to learn more about how IXL can elevate your school or district.


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