Ellen and Jack Kochu, the parents of Paul Kochu and Jess Kochu, his sister, discuss Paul’s life, the painful mystery of his disappearance, and their contentions about how he died. Pam and Jeff James, parents of Dakota James, also share their sorrow, the legacy they want for their son, and their doubts about the investigation of his disappearance. The families’ comments about the cases, the podcast and their grief were recorded during a live public event on Dec. 7, 2017, at the George Roland White Theater at Point Park University in Downtown Pittsburgh. The moderator is Andrew Conte, director of the Point Park’s Center For Media Innovation, where the podcast was produced.