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    Time To Say Goodbye

    A podcast about politics, culture, fishing, surfing and some other stuff with Jay Caspian Kang and Tyler Austin Harper

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    Kori Graves on Black Korean adoptees Nov 02, 2021
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    Hello from HISTORY!

    This week, Tammy interviews Professor Kori A. Graves, a historian of adoption and the family at the University at Albany, SUNY.

    Kori’s 2020 book, A War Born Family: African American Adoption in the Wake of the Korean War, explores how Black Americans came to adopt Black Korean children.

    Tammy and Kori talk about the history of transnational, transracial adoption — and the special place of Korea and the Korean diaspora in adoptee activism and the contemporary architecture of family.

    For more on this subject, Kori recommends:

    * Global Families: A History of Asian International Adoption in America by Catherine Ceniza Choy

    * Adopted Territory: Transnational Korean Adoptees and the Politics of Belonging by Eleana J. Kim

    * Disrupting Kinship: Transnational Politics of Korean Adoption in the United States by Kimberly D. McKee

    * “Side x Side” (documentary film project) by Glenn Morey and Julie Morey

    * To Save the Children of Korea by Arissa H. Oh

    * Framed by War: Korean Children and Women at the Crossroads of US Empire by Susie Woo

    Tammy adds:

    * All You Can Ever Know: A Memoir by Nicole Chung

    * Interrogation Room (poetry) by Jennifer Kwon Dobbs

    * Dust of the Streets: The Journey of a Biracial Orphan of the Korean War by Thomas Park Clement

    * “Made in Korea: A One Way Ticket Seoul-Amsterdam?” (film) by In-Soo Radstake

    * Palimpsest: Documents from a Korean Adoption(graphic novel) by Lisa Wool-Rim Sjöblom

    * The Language of Blood: A Memoir by Jane Jeong Trenka

    * Older Sister. Not Necessarily Related.: A Memoirby Jenny Heijun Wills

    On November 16, Also-Known-As will host an event with deported adoptees. Register for free:

    Tomorrow, November 3, catch Andy at NYU’s Skirball Center (via Zoom; register for free), in conversation with Prof. Charmaine Chua of UC-Santa Barbara. He’ll revisit some themes in his “‘Chinese Virus,’ World Market” essay from March 2020 in n+1 — twenty months later, twenty months into the pandemic!

    We appreciate your support! Please subscribe and stay in touch via Patreon and Substack, email (timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com) and Twitter!


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

    Ultimate Kangbook episode Oct 26, 2021
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    Note: Apologies for resending + reposting; some technical errors earlier.

    Hi from TMZ studio!

    Like all of Asian American Twitter, we’ve been talking about The Loneliest Americans quite a bit. But this week, Andy and Tammy get a full-on, personal Jay AMA.

    Thanks to all our new listeners and everyone who joined our Discord subscriber book club last week.

    Event announcement:

    Next week, on November 3rd, Andy will be giving a talk at NYU’s Skirball Center (via Zoom), in conversation with Prof. Charmaine Chua of UC-Santa Barbara, Global Studies. He’ll revisit some themes in his “‘Chinese Virus,’ World Market” essay from March 2020 in n+1 — twenty months later, twenty months into the pandemic!

    We appreciate your support! Please subscribe and stay in touch via Patreon and Substack, email (timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com) and Twitter!


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

    Kangbook, "umami," Striketober Oct 19, 2021
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    Hello from the John Deere picket line!

    This week is, um, eclectic and slightly technologically challenged. Thanks for bearing with us.

    4:15 – Jay’s book is out! Thursday evening, Oct. 21, Jay will be doing a Discord AMA about The Loneliest Americans. It’s for subscribers only, so if you want to ask Jay any burning questions about the book, sign up now via Patreon or Substack!

    7:13 – MSG—we all love it, even though it’s bad for us. Or is it? We discuss a recent piece (short and fun) about the history of the seasoning, the veracity of “Chinese restaurant syndrome,” and MSG’s rebranding as umami.

    27:49 – TTSG labor reporter Tammy Kim updates us on “Striketober.” From John Deere to Hollywood to healthcare, we are seeing record unemployment (quitting! switching sectors!) and labor militancy. Tammy is here to break it all down for us.

    56:40 – Joe Manchin is holding up the Biden infrastructure bill and gutting our hopes for a livable climate. WTF?!?!

    Thanks for listening and supporting the pod. Please stay in touch via Patreon and Substack, email (timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com) and Twitter!


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

    "The Loneliest": Jay's book + Kidneygate Oct 12, 2021
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    Hello from a spicy group chat!

    This week, we begin by celebrating the release of Jay’s book, The Loneliest Americans, which was just excerpted in NYT Mag. Congrats, Kang!Order it now for yourself and family and friends!

    Then, we talk the Kidneygate controversy (from the same issue of NYT Mag) aka Bad Art Friend, the long story based on a short story that launched a million Discord chats. Who’s really “kind”? Is the art any good?

    Finally, a dip into the cancellation(?) of Bright Sheng, the composer and music professor at the University of Michigan who got in trouble for showing a film featuring blackface in class.

    Reminder to catch Tammy in conversation with Noam Chomsky tomorrow, Wednesday, October 13:

    Thanks for supporting the pod. Please stay in touch via Patreon and Substack, email (timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com) and Twitter!

    Kindly,

    The TTSG Podsquad


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

    "Squid Game:" Some of us are not horses. Oct 05, 2021
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    Hello from Capitalist Playground of Death!

    This week, we talk 100% “Squid Game.”

    Warning: Don’t listen until you’ve watched it all.

    Does the show constitute anti-capitalist critique? Why does the ending suck? Did Park Chan-wook make the West permanently love K-horror? Will Asian art soon displace Asian American art? What’s with the weird ‘noble savage’ thing going on in the show?

    Plus: the dialogue genius in “The Wire”’s writers’ room, fantasy basketball, Gary Shteyngart (i.e., three Asian Americans trashing neoliberalism), and solidarity with subtitle translators.

    Thanks for supporting the pod. Please stay in touch via Patreon and Substack, email (timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com) and Twitter!


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

    Abolish ICE! And keep going. With Silky Shah of Detention Watch Network. Sep 28, 2021
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    Hello from Stuart’s Coffee in Bellingham!

    This week, we welcome a special guest to talk about the immigrant rights movement and immigration policy. Plus, Andy and Tammy channel Jay Energy and answer listener questions.

    (0:00): Andy and Tammy discuss Japanese food and our favorite chaebols.

    (6:50): Listener Questions! What’s up with the “PI” in “AAPI?” listener SansMouton asks. We discuss the awkward origins of AAPI and why Pacific Islanders and Native Hawaiians shouldn’t be lumped into Asian America (cf. this random feature on Asian feelings in the NYT this weekend). But is there anything redeeming about a “Pacific” frame? And what would be the Pacific version of Paul Gilroy’s Black Atlantic?

    * Thanks to friend of the pod Amita Manghnani for talking through the local politics of “A/P/A” and recommending “Asian American Studies and the ‘Pacific Question,’” by Wesleyan anthropologist Kehaulani Kauanui.

    (25:00): How should academics balance institutional responsibilities (and annoying prestige stuff) with teaching? listener Robi asks. Andy tries to punt the question to Tammy before laying out his own materialist approach.

    (31:44): Silky Shah, friend of the pod and executive director of Detention Watch Network, explains all things immigration:

    * Her Truthout article on the dramatic increase in immigrant detention under Biden

    * How her corner of the immigrant rights movement become abolitionist

    * Why borders are b******t

    * The We Are Home coalition

    * Links between immigration and foreign policy

    * The Dems’ obsession with “deterrence”

    * Myths about immigration

    * Why “Abolish ICE” isn’t nearly enough

    * Recommended reads by Harsha Walia and Todd Miller.

    For more on immigration policy, tune into this book event on Tuesday, Sept. 28, at noon EST, moderated by Tammy:

    Thanks for listening and supporting the pod! Please keep in touch via Patreon and Substack, email (timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com) and Twitter!


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

    Happy 10th birthday, Occupy Wall Street! Sep 21, 2021
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    Hello from Zuccotti Park!

    Lots of leftist nostalgia and reminiscence about Occupy Wall Street this week — and the podsquad joins in! Then we talk Vietnamese American Republicans in Orange County and rising COVID numbers in Vietnam.

    (0:00): Marshmallow test

    (10:50): Does Occupy Wall Street have an anarchist or socialist legacy? Why, even though it was “annoying” at times, does it still matter? Lots of personal anecdotes and reflection, plus a tangent about the suburbs.

    (1:02:20): Why did Vietnamese American Californians, who vote heavily Republican (even for Trump), vote against Gavin Newsom’s recall?

    (1:16:00): Vietnam recently went from having almost no coronavirus cases to an out-of-control epidemic. What happened, and what does it say about China and vaccine supply chains?

    Thanks for listening and supporting the pod! Please keep in touch through Patreon and Substack, email (timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com) and Twitter!


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

    The Great Unvaccinated Sep 14, 2021
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    Pod squad assemble!

    0:00 – Tammy catches us up on the latest in Asian Americana aka “Shang-Chi.” Jay and Andy remain skeptical of all things MCU.

    12:30 – We talk about the new vaccine mandate and the current discourse around “the unvaccinated.” Are we too un/sympathetic to the material constraints of poor and working-class people who haven’t been vaccinated? Is vaccine skepticism a reflection of the US’s unique political polarization? And what to make of demographic trends by race, education, political party, and class?

    43:50 – We mull Gideon Lewis-Kraus’s recent piece, “Can Progressives Be Convinced That Genetics Matters?” Should the left stake out a position on behavioral genetics, which the right has already done? Is all “genetics” talk doomed to slip into “race science”? Is race an inescapable way to think about the world?

    Please share, contact us, and subscribe!

    * Email: timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com

    * Twitter + DM: https://twitter.com/ttsgpod

    * Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ttsgpod

    * Substack:


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    Environmental justice, Amazon logistics, and immigrant workers: Andrea Vidaurre Sep 07, 2021
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    (Audio fixed and updated Sept. 7 afternoon. Thanks for your patience!)Hola from the Inland Empire!

    This week, we bring you Tammy’s IRL interview with Andrea Vidaurre, a policy analyst with the People’s Collective for Environmental Justice, in San Bernardino, California.

    Andrea talks about the meaning of “environmental justice,” local manifestations of global warming, working-class immigrant life in the desert, labor violations at Amazon, organizing outside the nonprofit industrial complex, and green futures in logistics.

    Some recs from Andrea:

    * Support PC4EJ’s work!

    * Read The Cost of Free Shipping: Amazon in the Global Economy, edited by Jake Alimahomed-Wilson and Ellen Reese.

    * Jam to Milpa, a musical collective in the Inland Empire, and oldies by The Chosen Few and Los Mirlos.

    * Read Gonzalez and Daughter Trucking Co., a novel by María Amparo Escandon.

    The pod squad will reunite ASAP. Until then, thanks for listening and supporting us via Patreon and Substack! Stay in touch by email (timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com) or Twitter.


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

    SCOTUS evictions, mixed-race Census, a new silent majority, and the D'Amelios Aug 31, 2021
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    Hello from the West Coast!

    It’s just Jay and Tammy this week, on everything from backyard farming to Barbara Ehrenreich.

    * Jay advises Tammy on late-season tomato growing. 🍅

    * What to make of SCOTUS’s awful (but anticipated) decision to end the COVID eviction moratorium? Where will it hit worst?

    * Why are so many more people (nearly triple!) identifying as mixed-race in the US Census? Does it have anything to do with 23andMe?

    * Tammy asks Jay about the latest installment of his NYT newsletter: on what we might learn from the media misfires of 1968.

    * Who is teen TikToker Charli D’Amelio, and why does her whole family now have a Hulu reality show? Is it too late to get in on this hustle?

    Andy will be back soon. Until then, thanks for listening and supporting us via Patreon and Substack! Stay in touch by email (timetosaygoodbyepod@gmail.com) or Twitter.


    This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

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