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    This Is TASTE

    If you’re a fan of smart and lively conversations about food, home cooking, and culture, this is the place. We interview the most interesting characters in the world of food, media, and cookbooks and release episodes several times a month. The program is hosted by TASTE editors Aliza Abarbanel and Matt Rodbard, and is sometimes recorded live at Rizzoli Bookstore in New York City. Visit TASTE online: tastecooking.com


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    250: James Freeman Jul 10, 2023
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    As the founder of Blue Bottle Coffee, James Freeman has seen the rise of specialty coffee from a very unique vantage point. Freeman joins us in the studio to talk about his company’s influence, as well as where coffee is heading today. We find out about his dream café project in Japan and what excites him most about making coffee at home. We also talk about James’s excellent book, The Blue Bottle Craft of Coffee. This is a seriously interesting talk with one of the great characters in the world of food and drink.

    MORE FROM JAMES FREEMAN:

    • Blue Bottle Studio Opens in Kyoto [Sprudge]
    • This Is TASTE 144: Jimmy Butler and Ashley Rodriguez [TASTE]
    • This Is TASTE 186: James Hoffmann [TASTE]


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    249: Camari Mick Jul 07, 2023
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    Running one pastry program alone is a feat of organization and carbohydrates—but two? Well, that’s all in a day’s work for Camari Mick. She’s the executive pastry chef at the Musket Room, a Michelin-starred restaurant in Manhattan’s Nolita neighborhood, and she’s also creating breakfast pastries like candied orange almond croissants for the newly opened Raf’s up the block. Camari is a star in New York’s white-hot pastry scene, so Aliza’s thrilled to have her on the show to talk about developing dessert tasting menus, being nominated for a James Beard Award, and how she’s making the industry more equitable.

    MORE FROM CAMARI MICK:

    • Raf’s Conjures Swirling Abundance from a Wood-Fired Oven [NYT]
    • Where the Musket Room's Camari Mick Goes in NYC [Michelin Guide]
    • Raf’s Pastry Chef Camari Mick Is Perfecting the Classics [Airmail]


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    248: Rachel Karten Jul 04, 2023
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    For Rachel Karten, “link in bio” isn’t just a social media call to action—it’s a career. The former head of social at Bon Appétit and Epicurious is now a social media consultant and the creator of the newsletter Link in Bio, which dispenses insights and interviews on the cutting edge of social media in food and far beyond. Rachel is my go-to person for demystifying things like the TikTok and Instagram algorithms (well, as much as anyone can), so I’m thrilled to have her on the show to talk about the current state of brand social media, why Instagram matters for restaurants, and much more.

    Also on the show, Matt talks about the first, sold-out, and extremely fun TASTE Travels cookbook trip with author Suzy Karadsheh. They visited Puglia last month and ate a lifetime's worth of orecchiette. Not a bad thing at all.

    MORE FROM RACHEL KARTEN:

    • Social Media Consultant Rachel Karten on Viral Trends and Social Strategies [Ad Age]
    • Lean In or Log Off [Eater]
    • Brand Social Trend Report [Link In Bio]


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    247: John deBary Jun 30, 2023
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    John deBary is a bartender extraordinaire, a cookbook author, a spokesperson for the bar and restaurant world, and one of our favorite guests on the show. He’s back to talk about his really great new book, Saved by the Bellini: & Other 90s-Inspired Cocktails. In this episode we talk about deadstock sodas, muse on summer drinking, and dive into what he loves so much about the 1990s.

    Also on the show, Aliza and Matt share some of their discoveries while walking the floor at the Fancy Food Show, the annual grocery trade show at New York’s Javits Center. The mushroom chips flowed early and often.

    MORE FROM JOHN DEBARY:

    • I’m a Bartender and Yes, I Use Gatorade in Cocktails [BA]
    • Dunkaroos Alexander [Food52]
    • Drag Legend Sherry Vine Calls Burbank the Next Queer Hotspot [Thrillist]
    • Strawberry and Kiwi: Why? [TASTE]


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    246: Lionel Boyce Jun 28, 2023
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    We all love The Bear, which means we all love Lionel Boyce. The multitalented writer, actor, and former Odd Future member’s sweet, truly hilarious depiction of Marcus, a middling line cook turned burgeoning pastry chef, stole hearts and laughs in Season One. The show’s new season, streaming now, pushes Lionel to further culinary and comedic heights, and we’re thrilled to have him on the podcast to talk about it.

    MORE FROM LIONEL BOYCE:

    • Lionel Boyce of “The Bear” on an Inglewood Food Crawl [Los Angeles Times]
    • The Bear’s Lionel Boyce Didn’t Bake Those Doughnuts, but He Did Glaze Them [Vulture]
    • The Bear Is a Gritty Fairy Tale of Cooking and Grief [New Yorker]


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    245: George Motz Jun 26, 2023
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    Wow, the hamburger god George Motz is our guest on today’s show, and it doesn’t disappoint. George is a writer, a TV host, and the guy with the cool hair and an endless well of knowledge about the hamburger. On this episode we go over some big topics, including the origins of the burger in America, Shake Shack vs. In-N-Out, and the best burger blend to buy for at-home grilling. He also talks about his new NYC restaurant, Hamburger America, and what makes the perfect restaurant burger. We hope you enjoy our talk with George.

    MORE FROM GEORGE MOTZ:

    • How to Cook the Perfect Burger [The Manual]
    • The Carolina Slaw Burger [Garden and Gun]
    • How George Motz Spends His Sundays [NYT]


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    244: Cake Zine Jun 23, 2023
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    Today is Cake Zine day on the show, and Matt is so excited to welcome in his cohost, Aliza Abarbanel, along with Cake Zine coeditor Tanya Bush to the studio. Cake Zine is an independent magazine and a “hedonistic exploration of history, pop culture, literature, and art through sweets.” The latest issue’s theme is Humble Pie, and we speak with Aliza and Tanya about some of the issue’s features that highlight “broad interpretations of humiliation and piping-hot servings of contrition.” This is such a great talk.

    Also on the show, Aliza has an excellent conversation with Stacey Mei Yan Fong, author of the new book 50 Pies, 50 States.

    MORE FROM CAKE ZINE AND STACEY MEI YAN FONG:

    • The Zine That Cake Instagram Made [Eater]
    • “Cake Zine” Is the Brilliant New ‘Zine That’s All About…Cake [Bust]
    • Baker Stacey Mei Yan Fong Makes 50 Pies for All 50 States [Eater]

    

    Pre-order: Cake Zine Volume 3 Humble Pie

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    243: Courtney Storer Jun 21, 2023
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    The Bear. We all love The Bear, the hit restaurant drama from FX that begins its second season on June 22. And we love The Bear for good reason. The show was the talk of TV and one of the most realistic portrayals of restaurant life on TV. Courtney Storer is a Los Angeles–based chef who works as the show’s culinary producer. That means she’s behind its hyperrealistic (now legendary) cooking scenes. On today’s episode, we talk about how Courtney gets the cast ready to cook. We also dive into the important—and tricky—topic of what makes a great chef.

    MORE FROM COURTNEY STORER:

    • On Balancing Pizza, Produce, and Gender Roles [BA]
    • Making Italian Beef with FX's "The Bear" Culinary Producer Courtney Storer [LAT]
    • What Does a Culinary Producer Do? [Indie Wire]

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    242: Jenneh Kaikai Jun 19, 2023
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    Not all cake is created equal, and Jenneh Kaikai is always raising her game. The baker and owner of Pelah Kitchen, a Brooklyn-based micro bakery offering up cakes crowned with flowers and filled with flavors of the African diaspora, makes some of my favorite sweets in the city. It’s a joy to have her on the podcast to talk about evolving her business from a side project to a main gig, the booming food scene in Accra, Ghana, pop-up solidarity, and more.

    MORE FROM JENNEH KAIKAI:

    • Issue Nº 18: Beautiful Baked Goods [Cherry Bombe]
    • Inside the World of Fancy Instagram Cakes [Bon Appetit]


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    241: Nils Bernstein Jun 16, 2023
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    It’s so great having our buddy Nils Bernstein drop by the studio. Nils is a man of many skills, and we talk about his great new book, The Joy of Oysters. Nils is the food editor for Wine Enthusiast magazine, and he has written and developed recipes for places like Bon Appétit, Epicurious, GQ, and the New York Times. But Matt knows Nils best as a former music publicist, working with bands like Interpol, Stephen Malkmus, and Nirvana while holding key positions at Sub Pop and Matador Records. We talk about his musical past, what is was like being in the room when "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was first played live, as well as a deep love of the bivalve. We loved catching up with Nils Bernstein, and we hope you enjoy this conversation.

    Also on the show, Aliza and Matt talk about three things that are getting them excited right now, including chicken sandwiches at the Fly, Bawi Agua Fresca, a new NA beer, and Nightingale Ice Cream Sandwiches.

    MORE FROM NILS BERNSTEIN:

    • Shell Shocked: Why It’s More Important Than Ever to Consider the Oyster [Wine Enthusiast]
    • All the Ways to Pair Pinot Grigio with Food, from Cheese to Fish [Wine Enthusiast]
    • A Taco-Filled Eating Tour of California’s Salinas Valley [Wine Enthusiast]
    • Bad Waitress [Dirt]


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