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Making It: Violet Bear Allen, Ann Cannon Woodbury, and Angela Brown Jun 16, 2021

Utah has a deep history of crafting and DIY spirit. This episode digs into that spirit as we highlight three women who brought it to life: Violet Bear Allen, an elder in the Skull Valley Band of Goshute who was known for her gift in beadwork Ann Cannon Woodbury, an early settler in St. George who was a leader in the lesser-known pioneer handicraft of silk production  Angela Brown, a photographer, editor of SLUG magazine and founder of Craft Lake City Each of these women represent a part of the state’s tradition of industry and thrift, and all of them had a role in preserving artisan crafts as a cornerstone of Utah culture.

Soul Sisters: Mother Augusta and The Rev. Elizabeth McVicker Jun 02, 2021

Many people know Utah as one of the most religious states in the country. But fewer people know that many different faiths have deep roots in the state, and women have played an important role in all of them since the beginning. This episode introduces two female religious leaders who each felt called to come to Utah: Mother Augusta, one of the first Catholic nuns to arrive in Utah, who founded St. Mary’s Academy and Holy Cross Hospital and later became the first American Mother Superior of the Sisters of the Holy Cross. The Rev. Elizabeth McVicker, the former pastor of both First United Methodist Church and Centenary Church in Salt Lake City, who went on to become a superintendent in the United Methodist Church. Both women spent just a few short years in the Beehive state before moving on to become leaders in their denominations, but their work has had a lasting impact.

Play Like a Girl: Natalie Williams and Norma Carr May 19, 2021

From the 1940s to the 1970s, some school districts in Utah had policies that specifically prohibited girls from competing in sports against other schools. This episode highlights two athletes and coaches who fought for women and girls in Utah to have the same chance to play organized sports as their male counterparts: Natalie Williams, a former WNBA player and Olympic gold medal winner who runs the Natalie Williams Basketball Academy Norma Carr, a softball, volleyball, and basketball coach who was the first female athletic director in the state of Utah to oversee both men’s and women’s sports, which she did at Salt Lake Community College Both women faced gender barriers in their careers, but they pushed back and found ways to empower the generation of female athletes that came after them.

The Utah Teacher Blues: Lily Eskelsen García and Alberta Henry May 05, 2021

The COVID-19 pandemic has made issues of educational equity and access glaringly obvious, but the issues aren't new — people have been working on them for decades within Utah and across the United States. In this episode, we share the stories of two such women who spent their lives championing equity in education: Lily Eskelsen García, former Utah Teacher of the Year, former president of the National Education Association, and shortlist candidate for President Joe Biden's Secretary of Education Alberta Henry, a consultant for the Salt Lake City School District and President of the Salt Lake City NAACP from 1980-1992 Both women felt called to their work, which altered the educational landscape in Utah for hundreds of thousands of students. And both felt like their work was never finished.

Good Taste: Maria and Lucy Cardenas of Red Iguana and Lavanya Mahate of Saffron Valley Apr 21, 2021

Utah may be famous for creating fry sauce, but its food scene is also full of diverse tastes from around the world. This episode highlights two successful restaurateurs who immigrated to the United States and shared more than a dash of their native countries’ flavors with the Utah culinary scene: Lavanya Mahate, who provides a taste of India as the current owner of six Saffron Valley restaurants and two Biscoff Bakery locations Maria Cardenas, who brought Mexican food to life as the co-founder of the Red Iguana and several other restaurants, and her daughter, Lucy Cardenas, who runs the Red Iguana today These women came from different parts of the world, but both introduced the food of their homelands to Utahns as a way of sharing cultural experiences, bringing people together, and expanding all of our palates in the process.

Home on the Range: Katherine Fenton Nutter, Josie Bassett, and Heidi Redd Apr 07, 2021

The “frontier myth” — or the romanticized idea of a place at the edge of civilization full of opportunity for the strong and self-reliant — has been idealized in American history, literature, and art. The reality, however, is more complicated — and so are the three women we highlight in this episode, all of whom made their livelihoods as cattle ranchers: Katherine Fenton Nutter, known in her day as “Utah’s Cattle Queen,” who ran Nine Mile Ranch, one of the largest cattle ranches in Utah Josie Bassett, a rancher and renegade with a homestead in what is now Dinosaur National Monument Heidi Redd, a cattle rancher at “The Dugout” near Canyonlands National Park, who forged a partnership with The Nature Conservancy All three defied the gender stereotypes of their time, bending the rules and pushing boundaries to carve out a place for themselves on Utah’s frontier.

Taking the Lead: Olene Walker and Deidre Henderson Mar 24, 2021

Almost half of Utah’s government workforce is female, according to the Utah Women and Leadership Project — but women make up only a fraction of statewide government executives and legislators. In this episode, we learn about the two highest-ranking female government officials in Utah history: Olene Walker, who was elected lieutenant governor in 1992 and went on to become Utah’s first — and so far only — female governor from 2003-2005; and Deidre Henderson, the current lieutenant governor, who was sworn in on January 4, 2021. Both women came to politics later in life, but each became a leader in her own right, using her experience and education to impact the state of Utah and blaze a trail for the women who would come after her.

Get ready for Season 2 of THIS IS HER PLACE, coming March 24! Mar 05, 2021

Get a sneak peek at the women of Season 2, from gold-medal winning athletes, politicians, and ranchers to educators and entrepreneurs! Season 2 also welcomes new co-host Mike Aguilar, who will join Naomi Watkins to explore the lives of Utah women, past and present. The first episode of Season 2 drops on March 24.

Who Tells Your Story: Betty Sawyer and Mae Timbimboo Parry Aug 12, 2020

There’s a recurring line in the musical Hamilton that George Washington says to Alexander Hamilton: “You have no control over who lives, who dies, who tells your story.” In this episode, we talk about two women were determined to take control and make sure the true story of their people was told: Mae Timbimboo Parry, historian and matriarch of the Northwestern Band of the Shoshone. Mae Timbimboo Parry successfully lobbied the National Park Service to change the name of “The Battle of Bear River” to “The Bear River Massacre” in recognition of the near-annihilation of her tribe by U.S. cavalry there. Betty Sawyer, Community Engagement Coordinator in Access and Diversity at Weber State University and an activist on issues of racial justice in Utah for over 40 years. Betty Sawyer was an important part of the effort to get Martin Luther King Day recognized as an official holiday in Utah and is the director of the Utah Juneteenth Freedom and Heritage Festival and Holiday. Both women had to first learn their histories for themselves. Once they did, it took decades of work to get that history recognized both nationally and in Utah, and their efforts have left a lasting impact on the state.

Bridging the Gap: Alison Comish Thorne and Karen Kwan Jul 29, 2020

How do we work with people we disagree with? How do we stand up for causes while also building relationships? In this episode, we talk about two women who were gifted with an almost uncanny ability to create bridges with people who thought and felt differently than they did: *Alison Comish Thorne, Professor Emerita at Utah State University and a civic leader and community activist *Karen Kwan, a current member of the Utah House of Representatives from District 34, which covers Taylorsville, Murrary, Millcreek, and a bit of West Valley, also a community advocate and an associate professor of psychology at Salt Lake Community College. Both women focused on women's issues, including the ERA. Both could have felt like outsiders in their own communities, and at times they did. But they also dedicated themselves to building bridges with determined persistence, and often in the face of steep odds.

Putting Their Art Into It: Minerva Teichert, Ruby Chacon, and Jann Haworth Jul 15, 2020

Public art is more than simply art in a public setting. It says something about a place and its people, bringing meaning to shared spaces. At a time of intense discussion of the community values reflected in public art, we take up the question of who and what are represented in public art through the lives of three muralists whose work has transformed the visual arts landscape in Utah: Minerva Teichert, a 20th-century painter with Mormon pioneer roots who was the first woman to paint a mural in a temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; Ruby Chacon, a Chicana artist and teacher whose murals dot her native Salt Lake City and across the West; and Jann Haworth, a pop artist and co-creator of The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album cover, who is working on a mural featuring Utah women that will be unveiled later this year.

A Matter of Trust: Angela Dunn, Annie Dodge Wauneka, and Martha Hughes Cannon Jun 24, 2020

Whether the issue is a pandemic, vaccinations, or any number of other public health issues, a major challenge for advocates is communicating crucial information in a way that builds trust and changes behavior. This episode tells the stories of three women who rose to that challenge: Dr. Angela Dunn, the current state epidemiologist at the Utah Department of Health who is on the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic; Annie Dodge Wauneka, a tribal elder and public health advocate who worked in the Navajo Nation in the mid-twentienth century; and Dr. Martha Hughes Cannon, the first female state senator in the U.S. and driving force behind one of the country’s first state-sponsored boards of health.

Don't Try to Be a Man: Rosie Rivera and Claire Ferguson Jun 24, 2020

Utah's first female sheriff, Rosie Rivera, got some good advice when she became an officer: "Don't try to be a man." More than a century earlier, Utah's first female deputy sheriff, Claire Ferguson, said to those who doubted her ability to handle danger, "Why should I fear more than the men?" Both women made history in the male-dominated sphere of law enforcement. Both also faced skepticism about whether they were fit for the job - and both women proved their skeptics wrong.

Welcome to This Is Her Place Jun 14, 2020

Welcome to THIS IS HER PLACE, the new podcast that tells the remarkable stories of Utah women, past and present, in all their diversity. Join hosts Naomi Watkins and Tom Williams as they explore the lives of Utah women- famous and forgotten, rich and poor, believers and skeptics, feminists and traditionalists, from all races and every part of the state. After getting to know these compelling women, you’ll be inspired by the unique ways each of them has made Utah her place.

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