Casey Smith and Ronnie Martin sit down with Scott Sauls for a conversation about wholehearted leadership, ministry friendships, and why church planting is good for the ego. Scott is married to Patti, and dad to Abby and Ellie. He also serves as senior pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, Tennessee. He was previously a lead and preaching pastor at Redeemer Presbyterian in New York City after planting two churches in Kansas City and St. Louis. He’s a pastor, church planter, husband, father, author, and lover of all things barbecue. Judging by some of the quotes below, you're going to love this conversation.
"I pass the test of adversity a lot better than I pass the test of prosperity. Be careful what you wish for."
"I think the reason why it's so hard for pastors to have close friends in the church is that most of the time, you as the pastor are more committed to your people than your people are to you."
"The beginning of your maturing process is when you decide to stay in a community when things get hard. American Christians are too soft, too fragile, and we peace out too quickly. We peace out before the maturing process begins."
“Pastors, take heart. Your weakness is something God delights to use in order to bring hope into the lives of others.”
This episode of This is Harbor Network is a production of Owens Productions
Produced by Casey Smith and Mark Owens
Edited and Mixed by Mark Owens
Music by Marc Wallach, Ayden Blackbird, and Flash Fluharty