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Think Differently and Deeply Podcast

Take a deeper dive into the Mind, Brain, and Education (MBE) through our research journal, “Think Differently and Deeply.” We share science research articles authored by teachers at St. Andrew’s Episcopal School for the Center for Transformative Teaching and Learning.

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You Have Something in Your Teeth: Growing as an Educator Through Research featuring Sara McAuliffe [EP23] Apr 15, 2025

Today's interview might have the catchiest title in our most recent publication. Sara McAuliffe is an English teacher, Co-Leader of New Employee Mentoring Program, and Professional Growth Pathway Co-Leader at St. Andrew's. In this episode, we talk about the personal nature of thinking about your craft and the constant nature of growth and improvement of the teaching profession.

Listen to this episode to learn how teaching styles can change over time, how teachers continue to learn and grow, and how teachers can best convey the purpose of their assignments to their students.

“I'm thinking about what is it that I prune so that I could do something else better or do something with better student success -- and one of those things is the type of feedback that I give.” - Sara McAuliffe

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From Police Officer to Science Teacher: A Journey in Research-Informed Teaching featuring Brittany Shields [EP22] Mar 04, 2025

Today's guest took one of the most unique pathways to education. Brittany Shields was a police officer before she worked at St. Andrews as a science teacher. In this episode, Brittany and I discuss why she left police work for teaching and the process she underwent to design her own forensics course. We also talk about the importance of understanding the brain and the lessons she learned as a police officer that carry over into her work as an educator.

Listen in to learn one of the biggest mindset shifts for new teachers and how teachers can find their superpower.

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Going Beyond "Good Job": Creating Actionable Feedback That Works featuring Andrew Seidman [EP21] Feb 03, 2025

Today I talk with Andrew Seidman about his recent article, giving feedback that works for students and teachers, and the CTL's emphasis on metacognition. In this episode, we discuss current ways of giving student feedback and how these methods could be improved. We also share our frustration with students not taking feedback onboard.

Listen to Andrew explain how teachers can give better student feedback throughout the school year and ways to lower students' cognitive load.

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Belonging as the Foundation: Where Brain Science Meets Identity in the Classroom [EP 20] Jan 06, 2025

Today we talk about belonging as a foundational element in the classroom with colleague and mentor, Lorraine Martinez Haley. Fifteen years ago 'belonging' wasn't a common buzzword among educators, so today we discuss the connection between the science of teaching and learning and the science of diversity, equity, and belonging. We ask how we as teachers can stay in this space rather than let the concept of belonging become a fad. We also talk about why belonging is important for both students and educators and how teachers can create space for their colleagues and students to show up as they need to.

Listen to this episode to learn about the concept of Belonging 2.0, sharing authority in the classroom space, and how teachers can manage their power of choice and privilege as educators.

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The Goldilocks Map: Finding the Right Balance in Research-Informed Teaching featuring Andrew C. Watson [EP19] Dec 09, 2024

This interview with Andrew Watson was recorded during the second USA Festival of Education. Andrew is what I call a positive skeptic. In this episode, we discuss the differences between the brain and the mind and debate the importance of studying both. We also offer tips for analyzing educational research.

Listen to Andrew's educational journey and how it led him to teach English and eventually author books on topics like finding a balance in research-informed teaching.

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Just Tell Them: A Journey into Explicit Teaching featuring Zach Groshell [EP18] Nov 11, 2024

Zach Groshell is good gatekeeper of information, so we are very lucky today to be able to pick his brain about his educational passions, explicit teaching and direct instruction. In this episode, we define these two teaching styles, discuss the research behind them, and explain why explicit teaching is so rare. We also talk about the importance of background knowledge and offer tips for creating engaging moments between teachers.

Listen to this episode to learn what makes good research and which teaching tools are non-negotiable.

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A Student Intern’s Academy Experience featuring Rose Currie [EP17] Sep 02, 2024

Today I speak with Rose Currie about her experience as a student intern at the academy. We discuss the importance of her relationship with teachers and how well teachers should know their students. We also speak about ways to incorporate metacognition into student learning and what makes for a good homework assignment.

Listen in to learn why Rose signed up for a summer internship with the CTTL, how to manage a heavy course load, and what can make teachers better listeners.

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From Rereading to Retrieval: How Psychology Changed My View of Studying featuring Eva Shultis [EP16] Aug 05, 2024

If all teachers knew the science behind neuroplasticity and learning we would be better educators. Today I talk with Eva Shultis, who has the unique position of Associate Director for Research and Product Development for CTTL, about our role as stewards of neuroplasticity as teachers and educators.

In this episode, we talk about mind-brain education, how the CTTl incorporates art into their model, and how stress affects learning outcomes.

Listen in to better understand the importance of neuroplasticity and its relevance for educators.

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Student Choice and the Admission Application Process featuring Lisa Shambaugh [EP15] Jul 08, 2024

Learn about the challenges of working in admissions, educating admissions staff on choice and intrinsic motivation, and how the student admission process has changed over the past 20 years.

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Lock In: The Art of Memorizing my Lines featuring Joel Crump [EP14] Jun 04, 2024

Joel and Glen discussed the crucial role of memorization in performing arts, with Joel emphasizing how it allows performers to connect with the audience on a deeper level. Joel shares his personal approaches to memorizing lines for a play, including repetition, writing down lines, and recording themselves. He also discusses the challenges in memorizing lines, such as pressure to perform well and retaining information over time.

Later, Joel shares his experiences as a professional actor and high school student, highlighting the challenges of balancing priorities. Finally, he emphasizes the importance of communication with teachers and mentors to manage schedules and priorities effectively.

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Chasing Sleep featuring Sarah Schwartz [EP13] Oct 01, 2020

As we approach the first major projects and exams of the school year, there's one research-informed success strategy that students and teachers alike tend to downplay - getting a full night's sleep. In the latest episode of the Think Differently and Deeply Podcast, we get some insight on the importance of sleep from a recent high school graduate, Sarah Schwartz, who wrote about the impact of sleep on her own life from a research-informed perspective for Volume 4 of Think Differently and Deeply.

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Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in Schools Today featuring Dr. Rodney Glasgow [EP12] Aug 28, 2020

The Think Differently and Deeply Podcast returns with a conversation with Dr. Rodney Glasgow, former Head of Middle School and Chief Diversity Officer at St. Andrew's Episcopal School, and now Head of School at Sandy Spring Friends School, on how schools can support their teachers and students as they navigate the current movement to fight systemic injustices. This interview was recorded via Zoom in July 2020.

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Metacognition across Disciplines featuring Julia Dean and Molly Magner [EP11] Sep 09, 2019

English and math may seem like polar opposite disciplines, but Mind, Brain, and Education Science strategies like metacognition help students excel at both. St. Andrew's teachers and CTTL staff members Julia Dean and Molly Magner chat with Glenn about collaborating on their Think Differently and Deeply article as English and math teachers, and discuss how teachers can help students develop metacognitive skills by demonstrating them in their own classroom practice.

Note: this episode was recorded in Spring 2019, before Julia departed St. Andrew's and the CTTL to begin her Master's degree in social work. Thank you again, Julia, for your enthusiasm and dedication to countless teachers and students.

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Illustrating the Teenage Brain featuring Joy Reeves [EP10] May 09, 2019

As a St. Andrew's student, alumna Joy Reeves '18 contributed to the CTTL as a research fellow and a resident illustrator, having designed the covers of two workbooks for the Science of Teaching and School Leadership Academy. She returns to St. Andrew's after her first semester at Duke University to chat with Glenn about her experience bringing Mind, Brain, and Education Science strategies to her college course load.

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Reading "Unhappy" Books featuring Andrew Seidman [EP9] Apr 01, 2019

Why do we teach serious novels and tragic dramas, rather than "happy" books, in high school English? Andrew Seidman, St. Andrew's English teacher, shares how reading "unhappy" books helps students put themselves in someone else's shoes, an exercise in theory of the mind that builds social cognition and empathy.

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Spaced Repetition for Math Success featuring Karen Kaufman [EP8] Feb 13, 2019

Have you ever passed out a final exam review packet, only to hear students ask, "Did we ever learn about this?" Karen Kaufman, St. Andrew's Math Department Head, speaks with Glenn about how she introduced the Mind, Brain, and Education Science strategy of spaced repetition to keep her math students from slipping down the "forgetting curve."

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Mindfulness in Early Childhood and Elementary Education featuring Jordan Love [EP7] Jan 16, 2019

What are the benefits of mindfulness for preschool and elementary-age children, and how can mindfulness practices be integrated into the classroom and at home? Jordan Love, St. Andrew's Head of Lower School, shares how introducing yoga, movement, breathing and other mindfulness practices have transformed the classroom experience for students and teachers alike. Listen to the end for a guided mindful moment with Jordan and Glenn.

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Establishing Social Norms in Middle School featuring Dr. Rodney Glasgow [EP6] Dec 03, 2018

Dr. Rodney Glasgow, a co-founder of the Student Diversity Leadership Conference and founder of the National Diversity Practitioners Institute, is an in-demand speaker, facilitator, trainer and activist in the areas of diversity, equity and social justice. He's also St. Andrew's Head of Middle School, and sat down with Glenn earlier this year to talk about the social mindset in middle school and how diversity in schools encourages learning through cognitive dissonance.

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Translating University Research on Mind, Brain, and Education Science featuring Dr. Daniel Willingham [EP5] Nov 02, 2018

Dr. Daniel Willingham is a leader in translating university research on Mind, Brain, and Education Science for a K-12 teacher audience. The author of several books, including "Why Students Don't Like School," "The Reading Mind," and "Raising Kids Who Read," Dr. Willingham also wrote the forward to Volume 3 of "Thinking Differently and Deeply." He sat down with Glenn during the Science of Teaching and School Leadership Academy in July to share his experience and insights.

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Mastering Memory through Reflection featuring Christine Lewis [EP4] Oct 04, 2018

What can teachers do to prepare students for new academic challenges and ensure they don't hit "the wall" when they reach third grade? Christine Lewis, Intermediate School teacher and Responsive Classroom facilitator, shares how her emphasis on reflection exercises made a difference for her third graders.

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Reinventing the Final Exam featuring Kim O'Shaughnessy and Phyllis Robinson [EP3] Jul 05, 2018

Does a rigorous final exam need to be done with pen and paper? St. Andrew's Episcopal School science teachers Kim O'Shaughnessy and Phyllis Robinson proposed an alternative exam to their students and offered them a choice. In the third episode of our podcast, Kim and Phyllis share how choice sparked intrinsic motivation and inspired success among their biology students.

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The Stone of Knowledge featuring Sung Hee Kim [EP2] May 16, 2018

Active learning happens when children ask questions - just ask first grade "knowledge makers" at St. Andrew's Episcopal School. First-Grade Teacher Sung Hee Kim shares how she introduced elementary school students to metacognition with help from a stone.

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Our Research-Informed Schedule featuring Dr. Ian Kelleher and Judy Kee [EP1] Apr 10, 2018

What does a research-informed school day look like? The first episode of the Think Differently and Deeply Podcast features Dr. Ian Kelleher, Director of Research for the CTTL, and Head of Intermediate School Judy Kee, who discuss the creation of the school’s new 2018-2019 schedule.

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