...These Are Their Stories: The Law & Order Podcast

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L&O: They don't believe she's being stalked. Now she's dead. Jan 10, 2024

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Briscoe and Curtis look for the stalker who threw Andrea Blake down the stairs. Is it the computer hacker with a taste for opera or the creepy neighbor with the telephoto lens and X-rated website? But inconsistencies in the victim's story lead Lennie and Rey to suspect she faked the attack. Soon after, Andrea is murdered in her apartment.

The defense attorney gets the 911 call tossed, saying she already falsely accused the defendant once. To save the case, Briscoe tells McCoy he believed Andrea's story all along, which everyone knows is a lie. Curtis refuses to perjure himself, so McCoy must attack his credibility to get a murder conviction.

We're talking about Law & Order season 8 episode 18 "Stalker." Our guest is Jenn Jackson from the We Talk $hit podcast.

Plot points for this episode come from the death of Canadian nurse Cindy James.

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About the show: These Are Their Stories is the comedy TV & Film aftershow where Kevin Flynn and Rebecca Lavoie recap the most iconic episodes of “Law & Order,” “SVU,” and “Criminal Intent,” breaking down the case, the cast, the real‑world crime, and the entire Dick Wolf universe.

From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

Keywords: Law & Order, SVU, Criminal Intent, Dick Wolf universe, TV & Film aftershow, true‑crime commentary, comedy podcast, police procedural, Crime Writers On, Partners in Crime Media

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SVU: The rapist likes his mommy's boobies Dec 27, 2023

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Detectives Churlish and Muncy investigate a rape accusation against the son of a rich, domineering real estate mogul. When Benson goes to arrest Martin Parish, she finds Connie Parish breastfeeding him. Carisi's rape case falls apart when the victim recants, then dies before testifying before the grand jury. The squad learns her cocaine was laced with industrial abrasive, which is also the cause of Martin's failing health. He refuses to testify against his mother, until his long-absent father returns to say he lost the taste for Connie's boobies when he learned she was trying to kill him with the same abrasive.

We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 24 episode 18 "Bubble Wrap." Our guest is Melody Carlisle from the "Heaving Bosoms" podcast.

A few plot points in this episode are inspired by the controversy around actor Armie Hammer.

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From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

Keywords: Law & Order, SVU, Criminal Intent, Dick Wolf universe, TV & Film aftershow, true‑crime commentary, comedy podcast, police procedural, Crime Writers On, Partners in Crime Media

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SVU: An evil children's author leaves Stabler blinded Dec 13, 2023

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Benson and Stabler learn the kidnapper and rapist they're looking for is children's book author Saul Picard. When they take him into custody, Picard head butts Elliot into a car window, leaving him temporarily blind. The feds want to bring Picard back to Louisiana where child rape is a capital offense. Huang says the suspect is schizophrenic and belongs in a hospital, not death row.

Novak schemes with a defense attorney to keep Picard in NY. Motivated by personal reasons, Casey's plan to sabotage her own prosecution to save Picard puts her at loggerheads with new District Attorney Jack McCoy and a vengeful Benson, seeking revenge for Stabler's injury.

We're talking about Special Victims Unit season nine episode seven "Blinded." Our guest is Ronald Young Jr. from the "Weight for It" podcast.

A minor plot point alludes to the life of author Theodor Geisel, aka, Dr. Suess.

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From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

Keywords: Law & Order, SVU, Criminal Intent, Dick Wolf universe, TV & Film aftershow, true‑crime commentary, comedy podcast, police procedural, Crime Writers On, Partners in Crime Media

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L&O: Only Briscoe heard the killer's confession...and no one believes him Nov 29, 2023

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Lennie Briscoe and his new partner Ed Green investigate a fatal mugging. They can't make an arrest stick to suspect Bobby Sabo, who enjoys taunting Briscoe, but the senior detective says Sabo spontaneously confessed to the crime while they were out of earshot from Green. Van Buren isn't confident the confession happened. Tensions boil over between the detectives as Briscoe feels his trustworthiness and age are questioned. McCoy's case is about to fall apart when the evidence gets thrown out. But Carmichael objects to a deal that might close two cases and reveal the truth about that disputed statement.

We're talking about Law & Order season 10 episode 6 "Marathon." Our guest is Mary Payne Gilbert from the Pink Shade podcast.

Inspiration for this episode comes from the 1999 murder of Jacqueline Frezza.

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From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

Keywords: Law & Order, SVU, Criminal Intent, Dick Wolf universe, TV & Film aftershow, true‑crime commentary, comedy podcast, police procedural, Crime Writers On, Partners in Crime Media

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SVU: The victim is a call girl! And a pole vaulter! Nov 15, 2023

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Benson investigates the rape of a housewife spotted jumping between rooftops. Jenna Miller has a big secret: she's been doing sex work. She has an even bigger secret: she's the world record-holding pole vaulter who could lose her endorsements if her double life were exposed. When the defendant's attorney suggests she's losing her good looks, Jenna responds by ripping off her blouse in court. With Barba's case tanking, Carisi and Rollins suspect Jenna's behavior might be the result of an undiagnosed mental illness. Meanwhile, Amanda remains unsettled after her sister makes parole and moves in with her and Jessie.

We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 18 episode 4 "Heightened Emotions." Our guest is Wah Lino from the DocuSweeties podcast.

This episode is based on the life of former Olympian Suzy Favor Hamilton.

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From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

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SVU: The little old lady who owns the slaughterhouse is the killer! Nov 01, 2023

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Benson and Stabler look for the killer of Laura Santiago. Their investigation uncovers cock fighting, radical vegan feminists, and hundreds of photos of women's butts. The detectives learn Laura was secretly filming an exposé on conditions in a slaughterhouse. Olivia goes undercover at the meat packing plant to find the missing film, but the left-handed foreman confesses quickly to the right-handed stabbing. Benson and Munch confront the elderly owner of Donna Rosa's Meatballs about whether she'd kill to protect the family recipe.

This episode has everything! We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 11 episode 20 "Beef." Our guest is Roberta Blevins from the "Life After MLM" podcast. The story takes cues from the work of muckraker Upton Sinclair.

This podcast was recorded in front of a live audience in Dallas, TX.

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From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

Keywords: Law & Order, SVU, Criminal Intent, Dick Wolf universe, TV & Film aftershow, true‑crime commentary, comedy podcast, police procedural, Crime Writers On, Partners in Crime Media

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L&O: Logan's childhood priest is at it again Oct 18, 2023

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When a cop is shot in a park, Logan recognizes him as childhood friend Billy Marino, who'd been trading phone calls with their old priest, Father Joe Krolinsky. He and Briscoe learn Krolinsky left the priesthood and started a family, but Logan confides in Cragen (now assigned to Anti-corruption) Father Joe molested altar boys and even put the moves on him.

The detectives learn Krolinsky gave Billy $50,000 as hush money. With all his sex assaults beyond the statute of limitations, McCoy charges Krolinsky with conspiracy to hide his past crimes. But the former priest has a shocking defense: he said young Billy recruited victims in the neighborhood and the cash was a belated payment for crimes beyond the statute of limitations. Kincaid notices Krolinsky's wife is skipping the trial - and perhaps she has family secrets to share.

We're talking about Law & Order season five episode twenty "Bad Faith." Our guest is Hank Krutulis from the "Procedural Veneration" podcast.

The crimes of former priest James Porter serve as the inspiration for this episode.

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From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

Keywords: Law & Order, SVU, Criminal Intent, Dick Wolf universe, TV & Film aftershow, true‑crime commentary, comedy podcast, police procedural, Crime Writers On, Partners in Crime Media

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SVU: Diane Neil and her friends violate a male stripper Oct 04, 2023

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Olivia and Elliot learn Sydney, a woman who died of accidental autoerotic asphyxiation, was one of three friends who raped a male stripper at a bachelorette party. Stabler is among those who don't believe a woman can rape a man, but Benson and Cabot go after Pam and Amelia (played by Diane Neil). At trial, the exotic dancer admits he was suing Sydney and she told her friends she was going to settle. The detectives think it's a great motive for murder and reopen the investigation of her death.

We're talking about Special Victims Unit season three episode ten "Ridicule." Our guest is Natalie Grillo of the Obsessed Network.

Some inspiration for this episode comes from the 1977 “Manacled Mormon” case.

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From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

Keywords: Law & Order, SVU, Criminal Intent, Dick Wolf universe, TV & Film aftershow, true‑crime commentary, comedy podcast, police procedural, Crime Writers On, Partners in Crime Media

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SVU: Cassidy is accused of rape and Amaro learns he has a son Sep 20, 2023

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Before testifying against the pimp who had him shot, a former sex slave says Cassidy raped her when he was undercover. When Amaro and Munch go to his apartment to question him, they see Olivia exit his bedroom.

Though Brian says it's a frame-up, he goes on trial for the assault. His attorney confronts Amaro on the stand with Cynthia Mancheno, the woman he had a relationship with while undercover ten years ago. Nick learns he's the father of her nine-year-old son and Cynthia's boyfriend is using the kid to mule drugs. The squad goes undercover to get the boyfriend off the street and prove Cassidy's innocence.

We're talking about Special Victims Unit season fourteen episode seventeen "Undercover Blue." Our returning guest is Nettie Smith from the Oh Hell Yes podcast.

Some inspiration for this episode comes from a controversy around undercover officers in Britain's National Public Order Intelligence Unit.

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From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

Keywords: Law & Order, SVU, Criminal Intent, Dick Wolf universe, TV & Film aftershow, true‑crime commentary, comedy podcast, police procedural, Crime Writers On, Partners in Crime Media

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CI: Who cut the wire causing an actor to fall to his death? Sep 06, 2023

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The lead actor of the financially-troubled, accident-prone Broadway musical "Icarus" falls to his death after his safety wire is cut. Goren and Eames learn the show's demanding director (Cynthia Nixon) couldn't convince the producer to fire him and wanted his understudy to perform that night for the benefit of a theater critic. When the detectives discover an insurance policy that would cover investors' losses if the lead was killed, they get the show's dramaturg and producer to turn on each other.

We're talking about Criminal Intent season 10 episode 7 "Icarus." Our returning guest is Brandi Brown.

This episode is inspired by the ill-fated musical "Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark."

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From the creators of Crime Writers On, the original true‑crime review show.

Keywords: Law & Order, SVU, Criminal Intent, Dick Wolf universe, TV & Film aftershow, true‑crime commentary, comedy podcast, police procedural, Crime Writers On, Partners in Crime Media

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