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354: Healing Developmental Trauma Using NARM - With Brad Kammer Oct 28, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C again dives into the topic of developmental trauma. Today's guest is Brad Kammer, LMFT, LPCC, a California Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist and Professional Clinical Counselor. Brad trained as a Somatic Psychotherapist and has worked in the field of trauma for over 20 years, specializing in working with Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD). Brad shared his thoughts on developmental trauma and Borderline Personality Disorder, and described NARM and its training process.
Brad began his career as a Humanitarian Aid Worker in Asia which introduced him to personal and collective trauma. He became passionate about supporting individuals and communities in the transformation of trauma. Brad has since focused his work on the integration of Somatic Psychology, Interpersonal Neurobiology, Relational Therapies and wisdom from Spiritual Traditions and Traditional Cultures. He has a special interest in the fields of developmental, cultural and intergenerational trauma.
Brad is the Training Director and Senior Trainer of the NARM Training Institute. He teaches the NeuroAffective Relational Model® (NARM®) internationally and has provided consultation to thousands of therapists and other helping professionals around the world. He is the co-author of a new book: "The Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma: Using the NeuroAffective Relational Model to Address Adverse Childhood Experiences and Resolve Complex Trauma". Brad has also been a trainer for Somatic Experiencing® (SE®). And more recently, he began producing a podcast entitled: Transforming Trauma.
Brad lives in a small town in Northern California with his family where he enjoys anything involving nature, travel, music, food, and learning about and connecting with new people.
Visit Brad's website here: www.body-mindtherapy.com Learn more about NARM training here: www.narmtraining.com Save 15% on a Level 2 NARM training in 2023 using promo code: TraumaTherapist15 !
Email Brad at: bradkammer@narmtraining.com
Listen to the Transforming Trauma Podcast here. Buy The Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma: Using the NeuroAffective Relational Model to Address Adverse Childhood Experiences and Resolve Complex Trauma on Amazon here. (affiliate link)

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353: Bioenergetic Analysis + Intergenerational Trauma with Dr. Vincentia Schroeter Oct 21, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week, continuing the themes of embodiment and intergenerational trauma, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C interviews Dr. Vincentia Schroeter about Bioenergetic Analysis. Vincentia gives an overview of what Bioenergetic Analysis is, explains how it can be used to connect the presenting issue in therapy to the client's history and their family history of trauma, even related to unspoken experiences. She explains how the body is used to heal trauma in Bioenergetic Analysis and shares about an upcoming training in this method.

Dr. Vincentia Schroeter is a licensed marriage and family therapist, specializing in Bioenergetic Analysis. She was the coordinating trainer of the Southern California Institute for Bioenergetic Analysis (SCIBA) for many years and past editor (2008-2018) of the clinical journal of Bioenergetics. As a member of the international faculty, she has taught in Europe, South America, Canada, and Asia. She has written three books: Bend Into Shape, Techniques for Bioenergetic Therapists (co-author: Barbara Thomson) (2011); Communication Breakthrough, How Using Brain Science and Listening to Body Cues Can Transform Your Relationships (2018) and Tilt: Seeking Balance in Troubled Times (2021).

Resources

Academy of Therapy Wisdom training on Bioenergetics
Register for a free webinar with Vincentia Schroeter, Bob Coffman and Laurie Ure to learn more about the Bioenergetics course offered through Academy of Therapy Wisdom that Vin mentioned in this week's episode.

Learn more about the full four-year training program through the International Institute for Bioenergetic Analysis here: http://bioenergetic-therapy.com/index.php/en/practice/how-can-you-become-a-bioenergetic-therapist

Visit Dr. Vin Schroeter's website and purchase her books here: www.vincentiaschroeterphd.com Listen to Therapy Chat episode 327 with Laurie Ure on Bioenergetics here.

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352: Trauma + Advocacy After Breast Cancer With Dr. Christina Hibbert Oct 14, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C speaks with Dr. Christina Hibbert, a clinical psychologist who was diagnosed with Triple Negative breast cancer with the BRCA-1 mutation and is now cancer-free, 3 years and 13 surgeries later.
She shares her experience of having past trauma come to the surface while she was dealing with incredibly challenging physical and emotional health issues. She talks openly about the missing pieces in breast cancer treatment and recovery, and the difficulty which many people with chronic illness will recognize, of having to be your own advocate as doctor after doctor dismisses your symptoms. During Breast Cancer Awareness Month, and Domestic Violence Awareness Month, this is a very timely conversation that will benefit any patient who is struggling to be heard by their treatment team, as well as any healthcare provider. Dr. Christina's message is raw and honest, compassionate, hopeful and constructive. Follow her on Instagram and Facebook to learn how she is doing now! Dr. Christina Hibbert is the #1 bestselling author of the award-winning memoir, This Is How We Grow, & of 8 Keys to Mental Health Through Exercise, Who Am I Without You, and the forthcoming Mastery Of Motherhood. Dr. Hibbert is a clinical psychologist, speaker, social media influencer, and thought leader in the areas of maternal & women’s mental health, grief/loss/trauma, self-worth, personal growth, & breast cancer.
She is the host of both Mastery of Motherhood (M.O.M.) podcast and Like a Watered Garden podcast and creator of her award-winning website and blog “DrChristinaHibbert.com.” Christina is also a “Breast Cancer Warrior,” overcoming triple negative breast cancer and the BRCA1 genetic mutation through chemotherapy, cold-capping & 13 surgeries. She was named Most Inspirational Women’s Health Professional 2018 & 2019 and won Best in Show: Blog 2020 for her work as a patient leader in the WEGO Health awards. A wife and mother of six, Christina was deeply honored to be named Mother of The Year, AZ 2018. Resources Follow Dr. Christina Hibbert on Instagram here and on Facebook here. Find Dr. Christina Hibbert's book, This Is How We Grow, on Amazon here. Visit Dr. Christina Hibbert's website here. Follow Therapy Chat on Instagram here. Sign up for Therapy Chat's e-mail list here.

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351: Family Secrets + Intergenerational Trauma with Dr. Galit Atlas Oct 08, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C shares an interview from Spring of 2022 with Dr. Galit Atlas, author of Emotional Inheritance: A therapist, her patients, and the legacy of trauma. Dr. Atlas shared how family secrets affect families for generations. Listen in for a warm and engaging discussion with this fascinating teacher about intergenerational trauma. Dr. Galit Atlas is a psychoanalyst and clinical supervisor in private practice in New York City. She is on the faculty of the New York University Postdoctoral Program in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis. Dr. Atlas has published three books for clinicians and numerous articles and book chapters. Her New York Times publication “A Tale of Two Twins” was the winner of a 2016 Gradiva Award. A leader in the field of relational psychoanalysis, Dr. Atlas is a recipient of the André François Award and the NADTA Research Award. She teaches and lectures throughout the United States and internationally. Her new book Emotional Inheritance was published in January 2022 and is being translated into 17 languages. Learn more about Dr. Galit Atlas via her website: https://www.galitatlas.com/ Buy Dr. Atlas's newest book, Emotional Inheritance, on Amazon here.

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350: Burnout As A Trauma Response - With Kelly Higdon + Miranda Palmer Sep 29, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C welcomes back guests Kelly Higdon and Miranda Palmer, therapists and coaches who help therapists in private practice build businesses they don't need to recover from. Today's conversation was focused on burnout. Kelly and Miranda explained how burnout mirrors a trauma response. They talked about burnout as a systemic issue rather than a personal failure. Host Laura shared about her decision to stop working with clients in this episode, which was recorded in June, 2022. Listen in to this conversation which includes:

How burnout might not be obvious to you, but people around you probably realize it;
How we live within a system that is oppressive to the individual, and those who suffer with burnout are simply trying hard to do a good job;
Self advocacy as a therapist;
Using your body as a guide;
Discerning intuition from fear and more!

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349: Borderline Personality Disorder + Developmental Trauma with Dr. Janina Fisher Sep 23, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C interviews a very special guest, Dr. Janina Fisher! Laura has admired Janina Fisher's work for years. In this conversation you will hear Janina discuss the relationship between complex trauma and the Borderline Personality Disorder diagnosis, as well as how her training method, Trauma Informed Stabilization Treatment (TIST) can heal attachment and trauma wounds. Whether or not you're a therapist, you won't want to miss this important and interesting discussion! Janina Fisher, Ph.D. is a licensed clinical psychologist and a former instructor, Harvard Medical School. An international expert on the treatment of trauma, she is an Advisory Board member of the Trauma Research Foundation. Dr. Fisher is the author of 'Healing the Fragmented Selves of Trauma Survivors: Overcoming Self-Alienation' (2017), 'Transforming the Living Legacy of Trauma: a Workbook for Survivors and Therapists' (2021), and 'The Living Legacy Instructional Flip Chart' (2022). She is best known for her work on integrating mindfulness-based and somatic interventions into trauma treatment.
Resources
Dr. Janina Fisher's website - www.janinafisher.com Buy Janina Fisher's Healing the Fragmented Selves of Trauma Survivors book on Amazon here. Buy Janina Fisher's Transforming the Living Legacy of Trauma: a Workbook for Survivors and Therapists on Amazon here. Special offer for therapists:

Attend a free webinar presented by Dr. Janina Fisher on October 7, 2022. In this live webinar, Healing the Shame of our Fragmented Selves, Janina will address helping clients who struggle with shame and self-loathing.

As a special gift, when you register for the free webinar, you’ll also get access to two one-hour trainings from Dr. Fisher so you can learn the foundation of her Trauma-Informed Stabilization Treatment model right away:

Healing the Fragmented Self After Trauma. Understanding trauma-related fragmentation as a survival response is vital to all therapists working with victims of abuse, domestic violence, or even combat.
Stabilizing the Unstable. Dr. Fisher shows you how to work with severely traumatized individuals with self-destructive and addictive behaviors, eating disorders, and suicidality. You will gain critical insights into working with these clients and feel more confident knowing how to serve them.

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348: What Is Embodiment + How Do We Do It? With Dr. Raja Selvam Sep 16, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! We often talk about embodiment, and connecting with emotion held in the body; but what does it actually mean and how do we do it? This week, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C interviews Dr. Raja Selvam, PhD, a licensed clinical psychologist who is the developer of Integral Somatic Psychology (ISP), a therapeutic approach based on affective neuroscience and emerging scientific paradigms of embodied cognition, emotion, and behavior in cognitive psychology to improve cognitive, emotional, behavioral, relational, and spiritual outcomes in all therapy modalities. Earlier this year, Dr. Selvam's book, "Embodying Emotions: A Method for Improving Cognitive, Emotional, and Behavioral Outcomes" was released this year. Dr. Selvam is also a senior trainer in Dr. Peter Levine’s Somatic Experiencing (SE) Professional Trauma Training Program. He has taught for twenty-five years in nearly as many countries in North and South Americas, Europe, Asia, Australia, the Middle East, and the Far East . His work is informed by older body psychotherapy systems of Reichian Therapy and Bioenergetic Analysis, newer body psychotherapy systems of Bodynamic Analysis and Somatic Experiencing, and bodywork systems of Postural Integration and Biodynamic Craniosacral Therapy. His work is also inspired by Jungian and archetypal psychologies, Kleinian and intersubjective schools of psychoanalysis, affective neuroscience, quantum physics, yoga, Polarity Therapy, and Advaita Vedanta (a spiritual psychology from India).
Dr. Selvam's work also draws upon his clinical psychology PhD dissertation on Advaita Vedanta and Jungian psychology, based on which he has published an article titled “Jung and Consciousness,” in the international analytical psychology journal Spring in 2013. He did trauma outreach work in India in 2005–2006 with survivors of the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, based on which he has published an outcome study titled “Somatic Therapy Treatment Effects with Tsunami Survivors,” in the journal Traumatology in 2008. Dr. Selvam’s work is also inspired by the work he did in Sri Lanka in 2011–2013 with survivors of war, violence, loss, and displacement, and with mental health professionals engaged in treating them, after Sri Lanka's thirty-year civil war ended in 2009. Resources

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347: Healing Sexual Trauma With Yoga - With Zabie Yamaski Sep 09, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! In today's episode, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C interviews Zahabiya "Zabie" Yamasaki, who is a survivor, an advocate and a teacher who is deeply passionate about helping survivors find healing after experiencing sexual violence. She offers courses, trainings and her newest offerings, her book with companion card deck. Zabie's kind and compassionate nature comes through in this interview, which we hope you will find valuable.

Zabie Yamasaki, M.Ed., RYT is the Founder of Transcending Sexual Trauma through Yoga. Zabie has trained thousands of yoga instructors and mental health professionals and her trauma-informed yoga program and curriculum for survivors is now being implemented at over 25 colleges campuses and agencies including the University of California (UC) system, Stanford, USC, University of Notre Dame, and Johns Hopkins University. Zabie received her undergraduate degree in Psychology and Social Behavior and Education at the UC Irvine and completed her graduate degree in Higher Education Administration and Student Affairs at The George Washington University. Her work has been highlighted on CNN, NBC, KTLA 5, and The Huffington Post. Her book: Trauma-Informed Yoga for Survivors of Sexual Assault, was published by W. W. Norton & Company in 2022. And more fabulous interviews are coming throughout the next few months...stay tuned for a wonderful surprise that we can reveal soon! If you're not already a subscriber, please subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts so you won't miss a thing!

Resources

Find Zabie's book, Trauma Sensitive Yoga for Survivors of Sexual Assault, Practices for Healing & Teaching with Compassion on Amazon here.

For more information on what Zabie offers, including her trauma-informed yoga courses, and speaking offerings, visit her website: http://www.zabieyamasaki.com/

Follow Zabie on Instagram here.

Go here to find the episodes of Therapy Chat with Nityda Gessel, RYT, LCSW, that were mentioned today. Bringing Yoga Therapy Into A Talk Therapy Practice and Trauma-Informed Practice and Scope.

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346: Holistic Ways To Improve Self-Care With Chris Mcdonald Sep 02, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This month we resume new episodes after a summer that seemed to fly by! In today's episode, host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C interviews a returning guest who was last on the show in 2019.
Today's guest is Chris McDonald, LMHCS! Chris generously agreed to join the Trauma Therapist Network community to share some experiential holistic self-care practices last month, and our members loved what she shared with us. Today you'll hear Chris speak about incorporating holistic self-care practices into your life, and how these methods can help us get back into our bodies when we are feeling disconnected from ourselves. Chris McDonald is a Holistic Licensed Therapist, 200 hour registered yoga teacher and holistic provider in Garner, NC. She is also host to the Holistic Counseling Podcast. She specializes in treatment of anxiety, depression, trauma and grief in young adults experiencing life transitions. She integrates yoga, mindfulness, meditation and Brainspotting into treatment. Chris also offers Therapy for Therapists and published the book “Holistic Self-Care for Counselors.” She launched The Holistic Counseling Podcast in April 2021 to help Mental Health Therapists learn how to integrate holistic strategies into treatment and how to build a Holistic Counseling Practice. Her favorite holistic daily routines include yoga and meditation. We hope you'll enjoy listening to this week's episode! Looking ahead, we are very excited about what's coming up this month! Next week's episode features Zabie Yamasaki, whose book "Trauma Informed Yoga for Survivors of Sexual Assault," was released earlier this year. This was another beautiful conversation of a subject that both Zabie and Laura care deeply about - sexual trauma. Be sure to look for that episode next week! And more fabulous interviews are coming throughout the next few months...stay tuned for a wonderful surprise that we can reveal soon! If you're not already a subscriber, please subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts so you won't miss a thing! Resources Find Chris McDonald's book, Self Care for the Counselor - A Holistic Guide for Helping Professionals on Amazon here Listen to Chris's first interview on Therapy Chat here.

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345: Coming Back From Secondary Traumatic Stress + Burnout with Laura Van Dernoot Lipsky Aug 26, 2022

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This month we have been talking about self care and secondary traumatic stress/burnout. Today host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C revisits an interview from 2016 with Laura van Dernoot Lipsky, who is the author of the classic bestseller, "Trauma Stewardship: An everyday guide to caring for self while caring for others," and a newer book, "The Age of Overwhelm: Strategies for the long haul." She also has a fabulous TED Talk entitled "Beyond the Cliff." See below for links to these resources. In this episode you'll hear the two Lauras discussing trauma exposure, an occupational hazard for those in the helping professions and something that has affected many of us who are caregivers, even if that is not what we do for work. You'll hear about how to come back from secondary traumatic stress, vicarious trauma and burnout. Laura van Dernoot Lipsky shares what helped her when she reached the point of knowing she needed a break from trauma work. Whether you are there, or wanting to prevent getting to that point, you will find hope and resources for healing in this episode. Resources for this episode: Trauma Stewardship: An everyday guide to caring for self while caring for others The Age of Overwhelm: Strategies for the long haul TED Talk: Beyond the Cliff
Trauma Stewardship Institute Check out Laura van Dernoot Lipsky's new podcast, Future Tripping!

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