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    The Zac Clark Show

    What does recovery actually look like? Not just the rock bottom. Not just the story of getting sober. But the daily, real, sometimes messy and often beautiful life that happens when someone decides to keep going.

    Hosted by Zac Clark – founder of Release Recovery, 14+ years sober, and someone who brought addiction and recovery to national attention on The Bachelorette in 2020 – each episode brings together athletes, artists, entrepreneurs, and everyday people for honest, unfiltered conversations about how people actually live in recovery. Behavioral health experts join the conversation to share resources, break down what’s happening in the field, and offer real, practical insight for anyone touched by addiction.

    Whether you’re in recovery, thinking about it, supporting someone through it, or just curious about the human experience – there’s something here for you.

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    Latest Episodes:
    UFC Veteran Jared Gordon: 10 Years Sober, Overdose, Fatherhood, and the Fight After the Cage Dec 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Jared “Flash” Gordon is a UFC veteran known for his grit, longevity in the sport, and a career that defied the odds — not just in the cage, but in life. Before he became a professional fighter, Jared survived 13 treatment centers, 8 arrests, and a felony case in Florida where he was facing 25-to-life. In 2015, he overdosed and woke up in a hospital bed, finally ready to change his life forever.


    Now, nearly a decade into a successful UFC career and 10 years sober, Jared talks to Zac about the fight that didn’t stop when the drugs did. They explore emotional sobriety, identity pressure in professional sports, and the exhausting cycle of comparison — especially when no amount of wins or recognition ever feels like enough.


    The episode also covers the grounding force of community and meetings, and the shift in priorities that came with becoming a father. They talk about Jared's continued work to face childhood trauma and how healing is a lifelong journey.


    Through it all, Jared remains committed to recovery — the only thing that has ever given him stability, connection, and a chance at freedom of mind.


    This is an honest, human conversation about ambition, self-worth, fatherhood, trauma, and staying committed when the world keeps moving the goalpost.


    Connect with Zac https://www.instagram.com/zwclark/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/zac-c-746b96254/ https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark https://www.strava.com/athletes/55697553 https://twitter.com/zacwclark


    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery: (914) 588-6564 releaserecovery.com @releaserecovery

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    The Truth About Kratom: What It Is, Why It’s Everywhere, and Who It’s Hurting Dec 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Kratom is everywhere – in gas stations, bodegas, vape shops, and even pharmacies. But most people don’t actually know what it is.


    In this episode of The Zac Clark Show, Zac and Jay break down the truth about kratom: what it is, how it works in the brain, and why treatment centers across the country are seeing a sharp rise in kratom-related addiction and relapse.


    This is not a PSA and it’s not an attack on people who say kratom has helped them. It’s an honest conversation grounded in real-world experience from the recovery and behavioral health space – including why kratom often goes undetected on drug tests, how it can act as both a stimulant and an opioid, and why it can be especially dangerous for people with a history of substance use.


    They also unpack the phenomenon of craving, the misconception that kratom doesn’t require detox, and the growing concern around stronger kratom products now being sold over the counter.


    If you or someone you love is sober, in recovery, or simply trying to understand what’s being sold so casually in everyday places, this episode is worth your time.


    Connect with Zac https://www.instagram.com/zwclark/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/zac-c-746b96254/ https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark https://www.strava.com/athletes/55697553 https://twitter.com/zacwclark


    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery: (914) 588-6564 releaserecovery.com @releaserecovery

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    What Your Brain Could Be Telling You: Dr. David Rowe on Neuropsychology, Psych Tests & Recovery Dec 09, 2025
    Show notes

    What is neuropsychology? What does a psychological test actually measure? And what if it were possible to understand how we learn, think, and behave in a totally non-judgmental, deeply informative way?


    This week on The Zac Clark Show, we sit down with Dr. David Rowe, Director of Neuropsychology at United Assessment, to demystify the entire world of psychoeducational testing. Dr. Rowe explains how these assessments uncover the real story behind attention issues, learning differences, and emotional struggles — and why missed diagnoses often push people toward anxiety, shame, and even drugs and alcohol as a way to cope.


    We talk about how the brain actually works, why so many kids (and adults) fall through the cracks, and what happens when someone finally gets clarity on challenges they’ve been carrying their whole life.


    Fast, fascinating, and surprisingly hopeful — this episode might change how you see yourself, your kid, or your past.


    Learn more about United Assessment: https://www.unitedassessment.com/psychoeducational-assessments



    Connect with Zac https://www.instagram.com/zwclark/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/zac-c-746b96254/ https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark https://www.strava.com/athletes/55697553 https://twitter.com/zacwclark


    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery: (914) 588-6564

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    Thanksgiving Sober Edition: Going Home in Early Sobriety, Embarrassing Stories & Real Gratitude Nov 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Thanksgiving can be beautiful – and brutal – especially in early sobriety. In this special Thanksgiving Sober Edition, Zac and Jay bring in guests Grace Adams (Release Marketing Director & former client), Dave Megenis (VP of Outreach & Continuing Care at Wellbridge, a leading addiction treatment and recovery center), and Michael Ahearn (Wellbridge Addiction Treatment & Research) to talk about:

    • Going home in early sobriety

    • Navigating family dynamics during the holidays

    • Embarrassing Thanksgiving stories

    • Gratitude that actually feels real

    • Staying grounded through holiday stress

    If you’re sober, sober-curious, or simply trying to have a healthier holiday, this episode is for you.


    Connect with Zac

    https://www.instagram.com/zwclark/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/zac-c-746b96254/ https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark https://www.strava.com/athletes/55697553 https://twitter.com/zacwclark


    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery:

    (914) 588-6564/ releaserecovery.com/ @releaserecovery

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    From Heroin to Marathons: How Kellen Matthews-Thompson Rebuilt His Life Nov 11, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, we sit down with Kellen Matthews-Thompson – Philly runner, content creator, father, husband, and the founder of Recovery Run Club. Before his life revolved around miles, marathons, and community, Kellen spent over a decade in the grip of opioid addiction. He began using in his teens, eventually turning to IV drugs in his twenties. His life unraveled – until a doctor in treatment connected the dots between the chemistry of the runner’s high and the brain’s need for relief. Something clicked.


    From that moment, Kellen started running. First one mile. Then another. Then a hundred.Literally – he went on to win a 100-mile ultramarathon and run a marathon every month in 2024 to raise awareness for recovery.


    Today, Kellen uses running as a bridge – not just for himself, but for others. Recovery Run Club is just one example of how Kellen uses his growing online presence to raise awareness and inspire hope around recovery.


    There’s a special kind of resonance in this conversation – because Zac is a born-and-raised Philly guy who found his own way back through recovery, service, and showing up for other people. Two men who rebuilt their lives from the inside out. Two men who know what it means to choose a different kind of hard.


    We talk about:

    • Running as an entryway to emotional regulation and self-belief

    • Love as the key ingredient to helping others find recovery

    • The loneliness of early recovery and how community closes the gap

    • Fatherhood after addiction

    • Building something that serves people instead of just saving yourself

    • Why running is such a powerful tool in recovery for so many


    This is a conversation about movement, identity, and returning to yourself — one mile, one day, one choice at a time.


    Kellen: @kellenrunsphilly

    Recovery Run Club: @recoveryrunclub



    Connect with Zac

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    https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark

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    https://twitter.com/zacwclark

    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery:

    (914) 588-6564

    releaserecovery.com

    @releaserecovery

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    Renowned NYU Professor Created a Test That Teaches You Who You Are | Suzy Welch on Becoming You Oct 14, 2025
    Show notes

    What if there was a test that could actually tell you who you are – or even better, who you’re meant to become?


    In this episode, Zac and Jay explore Becoming You: The Proven Method for Crafting Your Authentic Life and Career, the groundbreaking philosophy and curriculum developed by Suzy Welch – New York Times bestselling author, award-winning NYU professor, podcaster, innovator, and trusted mentor helping individuals and organizations pursue lives of meaning and flourishing.


    Suzy’s Becoming You course became NYU’s most popular business school class ever, sparking a worldwide movement among Gen Z and professionals alike to find what they crave most: purpose. After losing her husband, legendary GE CEO Jack Welch, Suzy rebuilt her life by creating a rigorous, research-backed framework that helps people uncover their deepest values and design a life aligned with them.


    At the center of that framework is The Values Bridge – a scientifically validated assessment that reveals your 16 core human values, measures your Authenticity Gap, and maps your Values DNA. It doesn’t just tell you who you are; it shows you where your life and values are in harmony – or in conflict – and what changes can move you toward a more authentic, fulfilling existence.


    Zac and Jay take the conversation beyond the classroom, reflecting on their own journeys of self-discovery, loss, and purpose – and how tools like The Values Bridge can illuminate the path forward for anyone trying to live a life that actually feels like theirs.



    Take Suzy Welch’s renowned values test – The Values Bridge – here: https://thevaluesbridge.com/


    Learn more about Suzy’s best-selling book, Becoming You: The Proven Method for Crafting Your Authentic Life and Career: https://www.suzywelch.com/books/becoming-you-the-proven-method-for-crafting-your-authentic-life-and-career/



    Connect with Zac

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    https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark

    https://www.strava.com/athletes/55697553

    https://twitter.com/zacwclark

    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery:

    (914) 588-6564

    releaserecovery.com

    @releaserecovery

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    Teen Addiction, Mental Health & Healing Families: Mike Giresi, Chief Clinical Officer, Family First Sep 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Mike Giresi was an All-American high school football player with a bright future, until crippling anxiety and panic attacks after graduation led him to alcohol. What began as self-medication spiraled into heroin addiction, multiple overdoses, and rehab.


    In this episode, Mike shares his journey through the darkest chapters of addiction and his hard-fought recovery. His transformation became a calling: helping others heal. He began working with adults facing trauma and PTSD before focusing on adolescents, even traveling to India to study yoga and meditation to integrate mind-body approaches into his work.


    Today, Mike is a Florida Certified Addiction Counselor, Internationally Certified Alcohol and Drug Counselor, Certified Trauma Professional, and NARM® Practitioner. As Chief Clinical Officer at Family First Adolescent Services in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, he leads with the belief that “the entire family is our client,” addressing the deeper wounds that drive destructive behaviors.


    A national speaker and educator on trauma, addiction, and adolescent mental health, Mike is an expert in helping teens and their families recover and find lasting healing.



    Connect with Zac

    https://www.instagram.com/zwclark/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/zac-c-746b96254/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark

    https://www.strava.com/athletes/55697553

    https://twitter.com/zacwclark

    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery:

    (914) 588-6564

    releaserecovery.com

    @releaserecovery

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    NFL QB to Healthcare CEO: BJ Coleman on Sports, Leadership, and Life’s Toughest Pivots Sep 23, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, Zac sits down with BJ Coleman – former NFL quarterback, author of The Pivot, and CEO of Pivotal Health Partners – for a powerful conversation about resilience, leadership, and life after the game.


    BJ traces his journey from being a highly recruited high school quarterback to playing at the University of Tennessee, then transferring to the struggling program at UT Chattanooga – where he reinvented his career, leading to being drafted by the Green Bay Packers. His quarterback odyssey laid the seeds for life after football, learning valuable lessons about building teams, the essence of leadership and learning to “control the controllables.”


    Now an executive and turnaround specialist in behavioral healthcare, BJ is known for walking into broken systems and rebuilding them from the inside out. He and Zac dive into the lessons sports instilled in him – culture, accountability, and leadership – and how those same principles drive his work today. His book, The Pivot, captures this spirit: setbacks aren’t roadblocks, but essential opportunities to reinvent, rebuild, and learn how to succeed.


    This is an honest, motivational episode that will resonate with athletes, entrepreneurs, and anyone seeking tools to lead under pressure, bounce back from loss, and chart a new path forward.


    For more information on BJ's book, The Pivot, please click here: https://bjcoleman.com/the-book/


    Connect with Zac

    https://www.instagram.com/zwclark/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/zac-c-746b96254/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark

    https://www.strava.com/athletes/55697553

    https://twitter.com/zacwclark

    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery:

    (914) 588-6564

    releaserecovery.com

    @releaserecovery


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    Skateboarding, Mental Health & the Berlin Marathon 2025 | KJ Dillard & Release’s Soo Saxton Sep 17, 2025
    Show notes

    New York City brings people together in unexpected ways. In this episode of The Zac Clark Show, Zac sits down with KJ Dillard -- an influencer, model, and skater just days away from running the 2025 Berlin Marathon to raise money for the Release Recovery Foundation -- and Soo-Hwan ‘Soo’ Saxton, an accomplished skater and Release Recovery team member whose recovery story is deeply rooted in skateboarding and mental health advocacy.


    They share how skateboarding became a lifeline during struggles with addiction, anxiety, depression, and ADHD, why the skate community still carries stigma around mental health, and how a powerful moment of reclaiming identity helped Soo take his life back. KJ opens up about being a Black skateboarder growing up in Kansas City, finding brotherhood through skating, and why he’s running to support kids who can’t afford treatment.


    This conversation is about skate culture, recovery, resilience, and the power of friendship – a reminder that it’s not just about talking about mental health, it’s about doing something about it.


    Learn more about the Release Recovery Foundation, which provides scholarships to help individuals struggling with substance use disorders access treatment: https://www.releaserecoveryfoundation.org/


    Connect with Zac

    https://www.instagram.com/zwclark/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/zac-c-746b96254/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark

    https://www.strava.com/athletes/55697553

    https://twitter.com/zacwclark

    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery:

    (914) 588-6564

    releaserecovery.com

    @releaserecovery


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    The Shadow of 9/11: Matthew Bocchi on Sobriety, Survival, and Inspiring Others Sep 09, 2025
    Show notes

    At 9 years old, Matthew Bocchi lost his father in the North Tower on 9/11. At 23, he got sober. In between were years of grief, addiction, and a secret he carried alone – sexual abuse by a family member. In this raw conversation, Matthew and Zac trace the line from trauma to addiction to recovery, and how speaking the truth can save lives. Matthew shares the call that changed everything, the moment of clarity that led him to treatment, holding his abuser accountable, and the work he does now – speaking to schools across the country, offering kids language and hope. It’s a story about resilience, community, and choosing to live.

    Matthew is the author of SWAY and recently celebrated 10 years sober.

    Content note: This episode discusses 9/11, addiction, and sexual abuse.

    Connect with Zac

    https://www.instagram.com/zwclark/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/zac-c-746b96254/

    https://www.tiktok.com/@zacwclark

    https://www.strava.com/athletes/55697553

    https://twitter.com/zacwclark

    If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release Recovery:

    (914) 588-6564

    releaserecovery.com

    @releaserecovery


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