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    The Underdog NFL Show

    Chris Horwedel and Mario Hines talk all things NFL football year round, covering the sport with a unique blend of insight and humor — along some help from their contacts from around the football world.

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    Episode 265: Miami Kev Nov 20, 2025
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    Episode Summary 00:13 – Intro & Opening Banter Jokes about soccer/football confusion, UFC chatter, and baseball lineup mix-ups before moving into NFL Week 12. 02:24 – QB Records & NFL History Discussion of Jacoby Brissett's completions record, past record holders (Jared Goff, Drew Bledsoe), Bledsoe's career, and a deep dive into the 1994 Patriots roster. 11:13 – Delivery Apps, Tipping & Life Rants Funny segment on DoorDash behavior, tipping strategy, and delivery frustrations. 20:13 – NFL Week 12 Begins NFL GAMES 20:13 – Bills at Texans 22:18 – Colts at Chiefs 26:41 – Vikings at Packers 34:28 – Patriots at Bengals 35:08 – Giants at Lions 46:50 – Jets at Ravens 48:10 – Steelers at Bears 49:39 – Seahawks at Titans 52:47 – Browns at Raiders 58:13 – Jaguars at Cardinals 59:43 – Falcons at Saints 60:13 – Eagles at Cowboys 66:20 – Buccaneers at Rams 66:51 – Panthers at 49ers Non-Game Segments 28:02 – QB Carousel Talk Conversation about McCarthy, Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, Carson Wentz, and how teams overthink QB decisions. 31:44 – NIL, College QBs & Lane Kiffin How NIL affects smaller-school quarterbacks, plus discussion of Kiffin's future and program dynamics. 35:14 – Lions/Eagles Offense & Defensive Changes Breakdown of recent offensive issues, Saquon usage, WR dynamics, and Jalen Phillips' impact on the Eagles' line. 41:43 – Coordinator Turnover & Coaching Careers How losing coordinators affects team identity, retread coaching candidates, and system fits. 50:59 – Miles Garrett Segment His sack pace, Browns defensive context, and the franchise's long history of bad luck. 55:05 – Rookie QB Struggles & Shador Sanders Talk Evaluation of his rough debut, overanalysis of prep, and realistic expectations. 67:51 – Closing Final remarks and sign-off.


    Episode 264: Down Goes Daboll Nov 13, 2025
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    • Opening banter / birthdays / calendars (00:13) Light back-and-forth on missed birthdays, daylight-savings gripes, and Ireland closing early. MAJOR NON-GAME TOPICS • Giants fire Brian Daboll + “next coach” odds (04:00) They roast oddsmakers' list: Todd Monken as the favorite, confusion about Ben Johnson being listed despite already having a HC job, plus Joe Brady, Mike McDaniel, Raheem Morris, Jim Harbaugh, Bill Belichick, etc. • Jackson Dart discussion (06:11) Dart's toughness, upside, OL concerns, and whether his physical wear will affect development. • Bo Nix regression & evaluation (10:07) Why his tape isn't matching expectations, concerns about intermediate accuracy, and whether he settles into the QB20-35 tier. • Eagles offensive dysfunction / AJ Brown frustration (12:40) Play-calling issues under Kevin Petula, lack of targets for AJ Brown, OL injuries, lack of rhythm, Sirianni needing to self-correct. • Jaire Alexander stepping away (19:49) Concerns about mental health around the league and frustration that the trade happened right before this development. WEEK 11 GAMES (Each With Timecodes) Jets at Patriots (21:26) Biggest line of the week; Jets offense still broken; Patriots viewed as legit and physical. Commanders vs Dolphins (Madrid game) (24:20) Commanders imploded last week; Dolphins expected to enjoy the Spain trip more and play looser. Panthers at Falcons (25:11) Both teams inconsistent; Panthers “look OK until they don't”; slight lean Falcons at home. Bears at Vikings (26:33) Lack of belief in J.J. McCarthy; Bears' offense scores more reliably. Bengals at Steelers (27:21) Steelers need it to avoid losing ground in the division; Bengals pesky but overmatched. Packers at Giants (28:53) Jameis starting; Packers expected to control the game. Texans at Titans (29:21) Texans praised; Davis Mills “backup lifer” energy; Houston momentum favored. Chargers at Jaguars (29:58) Travis Hunter's season-ending injury; Chargers “need-to-win” tendency to collapse; Mario leans Jags. Buccaneers at Bills (32:22) Bills expected to bounce back; Bucs tough and disciplined; close game. 49ers at Cardinals (33:23) Strange line; Cardinals outmatched; Mario calls this his “lock of the week.” Ravens at Browns (35:18) Confusion why the line isn't bigger; strong confidence in Baltimore. Chiefs at Broncos (36:00) Chiefs in dangerous playoff position; must-win; trust placed in Reid/Mahomes. Lions at Eagles (SNF) (36:51) Eagles inconsistent but still NFC's #1 seed; Lions need to “earn it”; expected to be physical. Cowboys at Raiders (MNF) (39:04) Raiders' struggles vs Cowboys' volatility; emotional game following the tragedy; slight lean Dallas.


    Episode 263: Week 10 and The Big Moves Nov 08, 2025
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    • Trade Deadline Rundown (00:00:18–22:34:18) Chris and Mario unravel a chaotic deadline: Eagles add Jair Alexander and Jalen Phillips; Ravens grab Dre'Mont Jones; Cowboys land Logan Wilson and Quinnen Williams; Jaguars secure Jacoby Myers; Jets shock the league trading Sauce Gardner and later adding Jasser Taylor; Seattle acquires Rashid Shaheed; Bears pick up Joe Tryon; Chargers trade for Trevor Penning. Conversation swings between fit, upside, contracts, scheme changes, and organizational direction. They also question the Jets' teardown, the Colts' aggression, and the Dolphins staying quiet. College QB class talk follows: Sellers, More, Simpson, and draft uncertainty. Week 10 NFL Games (with +18s added) • Raiders at Broncos – 23:10 Denver's physicality and consistency earn praise; Las Vegas looks flat and uninspired. • Falcons vs Colts (Berlin) – 29:23 Mario's “lock of the week.” Falcons' defense can't stop anyone; Colts favored to control the game. • Ravens at Vikings – 30:11 Minnesota gets JJ back, but Baltimore's momentum and Lamar's form make them the stronger side. • Bills at Dolphins – 31:09 Miami's instability overshadows talent; Buffalo seen as prepared and steady after a big win. • Browns at Jets – 33:38 Jets' teardown continues; Cleveland likely benefits from New York's dysfunction. • Jaguars at Texans – 36:15 With Houston missing CJ Stroud, Jacksonville's new WR additions give them the edge. • Patriots at Buccaneers – 37:27 Oddsmakers' tiny line surprises both hosts; Tampa viewed as clearly stronger. • Saints at Panthers – 40:52 Carolina suddenly competitive; New Orleans' inconsistency pushes the edge to the Panthers. • Giants at Bears – 45:22 Chicago still difficult to trust; despite issues, Bears are the more functional team. • Cardinals at Seahawks – 47:09 Seattle's home advantage and Arizona's uncertainty (including Kyler's future) point strongly toward the Seahawks.


    Episode 262: The Halfway Mark, Already Oct 30, 2025
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    🎙️ Opening (00:00 → 00:18) Birthday talk, mortality jokes, Amazon wishlists, tech habits Retail therapy & collecting kicks → soccer obsession as the “methadone” for sneakers Deep dive into new passion for global football (Wrexham, pyramid system, kits) MLS talk, DC United kits, future promotion/relegation in U.S. soccer Shoe pickup: Jordan Zion “Reverse Voodoo” Banter about acting, Colin Farrell, Kiefer Sutherland, random movie tangent 🏈 NFL WEEK 9 GAMES Ravens at Dolphins (14:33 → 14:51) Dolphins' huge offensive week discussed Ravens getting healthier; full 53 active reported Identity-shaping matchup for Baltimore Falcons at Patriots (16:33 → 16:51) Patriots gauge progress, protect ball with young QB Pats elite run defense vs. Falcons ground attack Panthers at Packers (18:26 → 18:44) Panthers offensive struggles highlighted Green Bay pass rush and run defense key storyline Bears at Bengals (23:51 → 24:09) Joe Flacco resurgence & feeding Jamar Chase Chase's massive target volume emphasized Broncos at Texans (29:19 → 29:37) Injury watch: key Denver defensive star hurt Houston's run-game questions; Mixon uncertainty Mention of trade buzz & Breece Hall's performance Colts at Steelers (32:32 → 32:50) Steelers' defensive struggles continue Colts physical play & momentum focus Chargers at Titans (34:10 → 34:28) Chargers inconsistency theme Personnel notes: McConkey usage rising, RB injuries Vikings at Lions (36:10 → 36:28) Vikings QB health uncertainty Detroit expected to reassert after bye 49ers at Giants (37:01 → 37:19) QB watch: Brock Purdy status monitored Giants QB injuries & emotional angle Officiating frustration from prior week mentioned Jaguars at Raiders (43:41 → 43:59) Raiders offensive line woes, young weapons Jaguars stability vs. struggling LV roster


    Episode 261: The Trade Deadline Approaches Oct 23, 2025
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    [00:18] Introduction & Welcome Back Chris returns safely from overseas travel Brief discussion of last week's unusual recording setup with AirPods and poor WiFi [01:05] NFL Trade Deadline Deep Dive Trade deadline approaching in less than two weeks Comprehensive review of ESPN's top 25 potential trade candidates Evan Neal (#25): Former #7 overall pick from Giants; hosts discuss potential reclamation project at guard for Eagles, similar to Mekhi Becton situation Saquon Barkley's concerning stats: now second in NFL for tackles in backfield, longest run only 18 yards this season (had 22 carries of 18+ yards last year) Roger McCreary (#14): Titans cornerback discussed as steady option for teams needing secondary help Arden Key (#13): Titans edge rusher - hosts skeptical of his value despite athletic profile Chris Olave (#7): Saints receiver as potential fit for Giants opposite Malik Nabers and Daniel Jones Riq Woolen (#4): Seahawks cornerback (6'4" with 4.3 speed) - doesn't fit Mike McDonald's defensive scheme; potential fits include Lions, Eagles, Falcons Breece Hall (#3): Jets running back; team fits include Chargers, Chiefs, Texans despite Hall wanting to stay Jaylen Waddle (#2): Dolphins receiver (10% trade chance); Giants and Steelers best fits Trey Hendrickson (#1): Bengals edge rusher most likely to be traded; Colts identified as intriguing fit [23:00] Indianapolis Colts Success Story Colts praised as surprise team with best record in league Shane Steichen's play-calling excellence highlighted Anthony Richardson benching decision discussed as bold move that paid off [24:22] NBA Scandal Sidebar Chauncey Billups arrest mentioned involving rigged poker games tied to the mafia Comparison to movie plots; discussion of how reality matches fiction Brief mention of other NBA controversies including Kawhi Leonard situation [27:04] Week 7 NFL Schedule Breakdown Thursday Night Football [28:04]: Vikings at Chargers (Chargers -3.5 per oddsmakers) Vikings dealing with quarterback issues; consistency concerns mounting Chargers at home with better positioning despite both teams having issues Sunday Early Games: [29:56] Bills at Panthers (Panthers +7) Panthers showing legitimate improvement with Bryce Young Rico Dowdle discussion as functional backup running back Ticket prices surprisingly expensive for Panthers home game Young and CJ Stroud playing at similar mediocre levels recently Bills expected to win convincingly by more than touchdown [32:50] Bears at Ravens (Ravens -6.5) Lamar Jackson's practice status TBD but expected to play Bears playing legitimate football but not expected to overcome Ravens at home [33:28] Browns at Patriots (Patriots -7) Shadeur Sanders discussion Sanders not getting any first-team practice snaps despite being backup Stefanski wouldn't commit to Sanders as #2 over Bailey Zappe Quinchon Johnson's recent performance analyzed: 25 carries, 3 TDs but only 3.4 YPC against Dolphins Drake May praised as likable with upside as top 10-12 quarterback May compared to Mitch Trubisky in personality (happy, puppy-like demeanor) Rhamondre Stevenson primary back but Henderson only got 2 carries despite being high draft pick [41:00] Dolphins at Falcons (Falcons -7.5) Michael Penix Jr. described as "okay" - consistent mediocrity expected Suggestion that Raheem Morris may dislike Kirk Cousins Dolphins described as "shell of an NFL team" [42:30] Giants at Eagles (Eagles -7.5) Strong revenge game narrative after Eagles' embarrassing blowout loss earlier in season Hosts expect Eagles to dominate convincingly Jalen Hurts in "area code" of Jordan/Kobe revenge mentality [43:40] Jets at Bengals (Bengals -6) Framed as "former Browns backup quarterbacks battle" with Tyrod Taylor vs Joe Flacco Jets moving to Taylor after Woody Johnson publicly criticized Justin Fields Described as skippable game [44:32] 49ers at Texans (Texans -2) Brock Purdy vs Mac Jones quarterback situation for 49ers Christian McCaffrey's return: 24 carries, 129 yards, 2 TDs plus 72 receiving yards McCaffrey's performance gives hope for Saquon Barkley's potential recovery Joe Mixon return timeline unclear for Texans Texans reportedly interested in acquiring Breece Hall Discussion of "breaking inertia" with backup quarterback having residual negative effects [47:15] Buccaneers at Saints (Saints +3.5) Bucs expected to bounce back after disappointing Monday Night loss to Lions Baker Mayfield surprisingly inefficient in Detroit Defense gave up unexpected plays Gibbs praised for Lions' performance [48:15] Cowboys at Broncos (Broncos -3) Javonte Williams "revenge game" discussion against former team Williams having career year with Cowboys on one-year deal Extensive free agency speculation for 2025 Discussion of Williams as quality second running back, similar evaluation of Isaiah Pacheco Altitude factor in Denver mentioned [54:16] Titans at Colts (Colts -14.5) Largest spread of week at 14.5 points Colts identified as hosts' "favorite AFC team" Expected dominant Colts victory Sunday Night Football [54:25]: Packers at Steelers (Steelers +3) Steelers' inability to close games highlighted as persistent problem NFC North rivalry dynamics discussed Steelers can't protect quarterback concerns Monday Night Football [55:26]: Commanders at Chiefs (Chiefs -12) Marcus Mariota starting for injured Jaden Daniels Second-largest spread of week Daniels' injury concerns: longest rush only 18 yards this season, on pace for just 2,500 passing yards Question raised about overlooking size concerns too quickly RG3 comparison made regarding Washington's history of mismanaging franchise QBs Daniels praised for elite pure passing upside even without running Washington's "win now" moves discussed Team described as "weird" - perhaps anointed too early as contenders


    Episode 260: The Classic 1:20 AM Kickoff Oct 16, 2025
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    On this week's episode of The Underdog NFL Show, Chris is traveling internationally and recording the show from Ireland! Together, he and Mario take a look at the each and every NFL game this week, break them down and give picks for each.


    Episode 259: Joe Flacco Might Die Oct 09, 2025
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    🎙️ Open (00:00 → 10:14) Chris and Mario open with light banter about time flying, joking about writing 2026 on checks, time travel, and hypothetical ways to use future knowledge for profit (notably Bitcoin). They discuss how isolating it would be to relive childhood with adult knowledge before transitioning to football talk. 🏈 Thursday Night Football: Eagles vs Giants (11:01 → 17:12) Line: Giants +7.5 The hosts react to Philly's loss and note defensive stats: Eagles allowing just 2.9 yards per carry over the last 3 games and leading the NFL in 3-and-outs. Discussion centers on offensive struggles, locker room tension (AJ Brown, Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts), and offensive line injuries (Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson, Juergens). They emphasize Philadelphia's 10-1 record in their last 11 Thursday games and mock rotation decisions with backups Matt Pryor and Brett Toth. 🌍 London Game: Broncos vs Jets (17:12 → 19:22) Line: Jets +7 Hosts question whether this could be the Jets' first win abroad. Praise for Breece Hall, dubbed “Mr. London” (6.0 YPC in UK games). Both agree Denver likely dominates due to coaching and defensive structure. 🐎 Cardinals vs Colts (19:26 → 26:40) Line: Colts −7 They discuss Indy's sneaky-good offense and Arizona's inconsistency. Segment diverges into coach Jonathan Gannon's $100K fine for an on-field altercation, drawing comparisons to Bruce Arians' past incident. Tangent: an extended Buffalo Wild Wings (“BW3”) lore and contest bit, offering a $250 gift card for funniest fake origin story. 🏙️ Browns vs Steelers (26:44 → 30:20) Line: Steelers −5.5 Hosts predict a big Steelers win but mock both teams' offensive ineptitude. Discuss Kevin Stefanski's QB indecision between Zappe and Shedeur Sanders, and the fallout of Joe Flacco's trade exit. Debate Shedeur's attitude, media presence, and perceived entitlement. 🐈 Cowboys vs Panthers (30:25 → 32:15) Line: Panthers +3 Mario boldly predicts a Panthers upset, citing momentum and Dallas' inconsistency. Noted Carolina's league-worst 23 sacks allowed and Dallas' dominance over the NFC South (9-1 since 2021). Praise for Javonte Williams' resurgence, comparing him to Nick Chubb. ⚫ Rams vs Ravens (32:16 → 34:23) Line: Ravens −3 Discussion on Baltimore's strange trade sending Odafe Oweh to Tennessee for Alohi Gilman plus a pick, while signing C.J. Gardner-Johnson. Speculation that “something's up” in Baltimore, possibly locker room tension. Praise for Puka Nacua, tying the NFL record for most catches in first five games. Mario sides with the Rams if Lamar Jackson sits. 🏴‍☠️ 49ers vs Buccaneers (34:23 → 37:37) Line: Bucs −3 Mario declares Tampa “his favorite non-Lions team.” Chris highlights Mac Jones' resurgence with the 49ers (300+ yards, 2 TD avg). Debate over Brock Purdy's long-term value, suggesting Jones fits Shanahan's system better. Speculation about Jones' next move — possibly backing up Josh Allen in Buffalo for career rehab. 🐆 Seahawks vs Jaguars (37:54 → 39:39) Line: Jaguars −1 Praise for Trevor Lawrence's grit, “winning ugly but effectively.” Comparison to “Excalibur moment” leadership growth. Recap of Darnold vs Baker shootout from prior week (380 vs 340 yards). Jaguars' ability to “flip the switch” earns both hosts' confidence. 🎰 Titans vs Raiders (40:28 → 42:48) Line: Raiders −4 Mixed feelings on Cam Ward's flashes amid Tennessee's poor roster. Hosts criticize the Titans' nonexistent offense and lack of weapons. Expect the Raiders to win behind Geno-like low-turnover efficiency. 🧀 Bengals vs Packers (42:48 → 44:21) Line: Packers −14 Unsure if Joe Flacco starts; both slam Jake Browning's play. Mock the Bengals' logic of signing “the slowest QB alive.” Expect a comfortable Packers win (“by 12–14”). ⚜️ Patriots vs Saints (44:23 → 45:35) Line: Saints +3 Hosts recap New England's emotional high after a big upset. Mario warns of regression and expects a Saints upset, noting travel fatigue and Diggs' inconsistency. 🦁 Sunday Night Football: Lions vs Chiefs (46:16 → 47:44) Line: Chiefs −2.5 Deep dive into Detroit's secondary concerns and run-game dominance. Mario predicts the Lions could produce two 100-yard rushers and questions KC's mystique. Chris notes the Chiefs haven't lost to Detroit at Arrowhead since 1988.


    Episode 258: The End of the Flacco Era? Oct 02, 2025
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    Opening & Headlines (00:31 → 01:25) Chris and Mario kick off with October vibes, quick NFL notes, and headline drama around Joe Flacco's struggles and Cleveland's QB shuffle. Shador Sanders' frustration at being QB3 is debated, and Kevin Stefanski's decision-making is defended. Quarterback Era Talk (03:18 → 11:53) Discussion on Dylan Gabriel starting for the Browns in Dublin vs. Carson Wentz (Vikings). Broader reflections on today's demand for instant QB success, rookie evaluations (Cam Ward, Fernando Mendoza, Dante Moore, Lenora Sellers), and Nick Harbour's positional misfit. NFL Injury Spotlight (15:16 → 19:19) Deep dive into Tyreek Hill's injury, his unusual reaction on the stretcher, and speculation about his future landing spots. Eagles & League Trends (20:31 → 27:07) Sean Payton's “tush push” comments, Eagles' 4-0 start despite being outgained in every game, and offensive frustrations. 🏈 NFL Week 5 Game Discussions 49ers @ Rams (27:37 → 37:52) San Francisco's QB injuries noted; Rams praised for resilience. Stafford steady, Puka Nacua highlighted as emerging elite WR. Vikings vs Browns (Dublin) (37:56 → 39:38) Carson Wentz vs. Dylan Gabriel matchup discussed. JJ McCarthy's injury status uncertain. Cowboys @ Jets (39:52 → 43:21) Jets' Justin Fields reliant on big plays; Cowboys' defense surprisingly weak. Dak's inconsistency and OL concerns highlighted. Broncos @ Eagles (43:27 → 45:40) Eagles' offensive line struggles impacting Saquon Barkley. Philly's run-game issues and O-line injuries emphasized. Texans @ Ravens (46:16 → 47:53) Lamar Jackson's availability unclear. Texans' offensive inconsistency despite Nico Collins' contributions. Panthers @ Dolphins (50:33 → 51:17) Bryce Young's struggles continue. Hendon Hooker's name surfaces as possible future option. Miami favored. Giants @ Saints (51:32 → 52:28) Saints' defense steady; Giants' QB Dart might regress with film now available and without elite WR support. Titans @ Cardinals (56:34 → 57:26) Arizona's defense strong, but offense uncertain. Titans' potential to randomly “click” lingers. Lions @ Bengals (57:26 → 58:44) Detroit heavily favored. Bengals' offensive decline with Jake Browning at QB, Jamar Chase frustration noted. Seahawks @ Buccaneers (55:31 → 56:32) Seattle's RB rotation (Walker/Charbonnet) inconsistent. Tampa Bay's scheme execution cleaner.


    Episode 257: Lost Bravado Sep 25, 2025
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    [00:18–03:35] Injuries & NFL Landscape Shifts Chris and Mario start with the impact of injuries across the league—highlighting issues affecting team depth, quarterback changes, and shifting dynamics through two weeks. [03:36–05:22] 49ers at Jaguars & Saints at Seahawks They look at the Niners' depth issues and the Jaguars' need for offensive improvement. In Seahawks-Saints, Seattle's run game is solid, while New Orleans struggles for identity. [05:23–07:41] Steelers at Patriots & Jets at Dolphins Steelers-Patriots focuses on both teams' stagnant offenses and QB uncertainty. For Jets-Dolphins, the conversation covers Miami's home-field advantage and New York's inconsistency. [07:42–09:33] Bills at Cardinals & Chargers at Giants Bills-Cardinals centers on Arizona's competitive defense and Buffalo's firepower. Chargers-Giants is framed around Herbert's comfort level and NY's RB workload. [09:34–11:51] Eagles at Buccaneers & Rams at Colts Jalen Hurts' rhythm vs. Tampa's defense is key in Eagles-Bucs. Rams-Colts features praise for Indy's surprising start and LA's evolving backfield. [11:52–14:28] Browns at Lions & Bears at Raiders Cleveland's defense is stifling, while Detroit's offense continues to click. Bears-Raiders includes notes on Caleb Williams' growth and Vegas' need for big plays. [14:29–17:10] Cowboys at Packers & Falcons at Commanders Dallas' wideout injuries and Green Bay's balance are discussed. Falcons-Commanders revolves around QB options, a shaky Washington defense, and Kyle Pitts' reemergence. [17:11–19:06] Titans at Texans & Panthers at Patriots Stroud's regression and Cam Ward's tough matchups are noted in Titans-Texans. Panthers-Patriots doubles down on Maye's turnovers and Carolina's odd offensive efficiency. [19:07–21:02] Saints at Seahawks & Broncos at Chiefs A brief second take on Saints-Seahawks revisits Geno Smith's inconsistency. Broncos-Chiefs touches on KC's offensive identity and Denver's youth-driven lineup. [21:03–23:18] Vikings vs Steelers in London They highlight the London game as a potential turning point for both squads. QB performances and travel fatigue are touched on. [23:19–25:00] Bengals at Vikings & Quarterback Rotation Browning and Wentz are the focus in Cincy-Minnesota. The conversation addresses game speed, system fit, and execution. [25:01–26:41] Ravens at Chiefs & Monday Night Outlook The marquee matchup pits two contenders with postseason histories. They close with quick notes on how this game may define early AFC narratives.


    Episode 256: Week 3 NFL Preview Sep 18, 2025
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    [00:28–03:19] Lions' Week 2 Bounce-Back & Ben Johnson Critique Chris and Mario discuss Detroit's Week 2 win and Ben Johnson's leadership. They debate if Johnson is head-coach material based on early postgame remarks. [03:20–07:12] Quarterback Injuries & Bengals' QB Market Joe Burrow's uncertain status sparks a breakdown of Cincy's options. Oddsmakers' odds on potential replacements include Derek Carr, Jameis Winston, and Carson Wentz. Other injuries to McCarthy and Purdy are also mentioned. [07:13–09:32] Thursday: Dolphins at Bills Buffalo is favored by 12. The hosts break down Miami's inconsistency and Buffalo's ability to dominate both on the ground and through the air. [09:33–10:54] Falcons at Panthers Atlanta is ascending offensively, while Carolina's defense struggles. Leggett's lack of development is a concern despite high draft capital. [10:55–13:55] Bengals at Vikings (Wentz vs Browning) Minnesota starts Carson Wentz, Cincinnati turns to Jake Browning. Wentz is seen as a top-tier backup; the matchup could reshape perceptions of each team's QB decisions. [13:56–16:57] Packers at Browns Green Bay is banged up at WR, while Joe Flacco's days in Cleveland seem numbered. Dylan Gabriel's emergence and Shador Sanders' presence loom. [16:58–19:58] Texans at Jaguars Jacksonville is a slight favorite. Struggles between Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas Jr. are noted. Houston's overachieving two years ago may have skewed expectations. [19:59–22:31] Colts at Titans Daniel Jones leads Indy as Cam Ward sparks Tennessee. Tyler Warren shines while Colston Loveland fades in Chicago. Jonathan Taylor's return is impactful. [22:32–24:51] Raiders at Commanders Geno Smith's up-and-down performance is discussed. Raiders' WR depth is a concern. Washington's tackling and defensive strengths may be tested. [24:52–27:14] Rams at Eagles Philadelphia is favored by 3.5. Concerns emerge around the Eagles' lack of offensive explosiveness. Chris and Mario highlight locker-room trash talk following last week's win. [27:15–29:01] Jets at Buccaneers Tampa Bay rides momentum as Baker Mayfield thrives. Emeka Egbuka is underused while Mike Evans remains the focal point. Tough matchup for a shaky Jets team. [29:02–31:24] Steelers at Patriots New England is a slight home underdog. Pittsburgh's offense is underwhelming, and Jalen Warren has yet to prove himself as Najee's replacement. [31:25–33:54] Broncos at Chargers The Chargers are 3-point favorites. Justin Herbert looks sharp, but Harbaugh's identity seems undefined. The Broncos remain average with Bo Nix at the helm. [33:55–36:20] Saints at Seahawks Seattle's strong run game, led by Kenneth Walker, is highlighted. The Saints can't find consistency, and Geno Smith's performance fluctuates. [36:21–38:13] Cardinals at 49ers Brock Purdy might return, but rushing him could cost San Francisco. Mac Jones may continue to hold the fort. Arizona is competitive defensively. [38:14–40:22] Cowboys at Bears The Bears are slight home underdogs. Caleb Williams flashes talent, while the Cowboys' defense draws criticism. Chicago needs to limit big plays to stay competitive. [40:23–42:17] Chiefs at Giants Kansas City looks to avoid an 0-3 start. Social media jabs and postgame trash talk are noted. Chris and Mario call out KC's overconfidence after recent losses. [42:18–45:02] Monday: Lions at Ravens The marquee game of the week. Baltimore is favored by 5. Chris and Mario preview key matchups, including Detroit's defensive front vs. Lamar Jackson and a fired-up Ravens run game.


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