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    The Two Matts

    Join The New World’s Matt Kelly and Matt d’Ancona plus occasional guests for weekly chat on politics and media with a side of cultural stuff. A podcast in the spirit of the award-winning New World newspaper – irreverent, witty, surprising, argumentative … and annoying all the right people.


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    Should he stay or should he go now? Apr 23, 2026
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    Indecision’s bugging the Two Matts… should Keir Starmer stay or should he go? If he stays there will be trouble. But if he goes it will be double. What is the right timing for a deeply disappointing premiership to end? It’s a clash of considerations - what’s right for the country, what would a successor look like, how do we get out of the cycle of endlessly dumping PMs? No easy answers but a difficult and nuanced debate about the mess we’re in. Also: why are the King and Queen not meeting the Jeffrey Epstein survivors in the States? The Matts have strong views. Enjoy!


    Produced by Matt Withers


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/

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    Is a brave new world possible? With John Kampfner Apr 20, 2026
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    Journalist and author John Kampfner joins the Matts to discuss his stunning new book Braver New World - a global travelogue of bold solutions to some of the world’s thorniest problems. Over three years of globetrotting to see for himself what can be done has given John a sense of belief in the future… but with some important caveats. So if you’re feeling pessimistic about the future, tune in and get a dose of realistic optimism that things can get better… but only with the right spirit and culture of political risk. Enjoy!


    And PS… new subscribers to The New World get a signed hardback copy of Braver New World while stocks last. Go to www.thenewworld.co.uk/2Matts now!


    Produced by Matt Withers

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    The Two Matts Q&A: The fall of Orbán, Corbyn and Kanye West Apr 18, 2026
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    The Matts tackle listeners' questions, including how positive should we be about the fall of Orbán, why is Corbyn polling zero percent, is the collapse of the Wireless Festival a good thing, would they welcome Nicole Kidman at their deathbed… and what opinions do they hold which would alienate the most Two Matts listeners?


    Produced by Matt Withers


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/

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    A New Hope from Hungary Apr 16, 2026
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    The Matts assess Péter Magyar’s spectacular ousting of Viktor Orbán in Hungary and what it means for the fight against right-wing populism worldwide. It’s an encouraging moment but no time for complacency. In part two, they catch up with events in Iran and the deepening humiliation being visited upon Donald Trump as his strategy-free war continues. Enjoy!


    Produced by Matt Withers


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/

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    The Two Matts Q&A: Royal visit to the US, Roger Daltrey’s opinions and Italy’s football team Apr 04, 2026
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    The Matts answer listeners’ Easter Sunday questions, including on whether or not the King should be visiting the States, whether the debate around joining the EU will be as divisive as 2016, if we can enjoy The Who when Roger Daltrey is a Brexiteer, whether Scott Mills should have been fired from the BBC, what would happen if NATO collapsed and how Italian football fell from grace. Enjoy! And Happy Easter to all our listeners.


    NB: We’re taking a break next week and will return on April 16. Unless anything truly mad happens in between, in which case we will return sooner!


    Produced by Matt Withers


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/

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    DARK SIDE OF THE MATTS: A spectacular row erupts over NASA’s moonshot Apr 02, 2026
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    The Matts fall out spectacularly and unexpectedly over NASA’s moon shot, Artemis 2. How is this even possible, you ask? They’re not even sure… but the topic quickly descends into a brutal space war of words. In part two, common ground is regained as they analyse the latest Trump position on Iran and ask whether this war is going to push the UK back into the arms of the EU faster than anyone could have hoped.


    Produced by Matt Withers


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/

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    The Two Matts Q&A: Are we journalists or activists? Mar 29, 2026
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    The Matts answer your questions in their regular Sunday Q&A show, including whether their mission to see Reform fail is blinding them to the full picture, how the war in Iran is going for Donald Trump, whether Scotland’s MSPs can hack it, whether we have a problem in discussing Muslim culture in the UK and if The Repair Shop was right to cancel Bob Monkhouse. Enjoy!


    Produced by Matt Withers


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/

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    Here’s how the UK joins the EU and sooner than you think Mar 26, 2026
    Show notes

    The Matts open with a war update - the signals from Washington point to an escalation which will be devastating for the world, yet the off-ramp (as it apparently must be called) is difficult to divine.


    In part two they discuss what seems to be an inevitable movement towards rejoining the EU. Labour are headed towards the position already fully asserted by the Greens and Lib Dems - that Brexit was a catastrophe and needs to be undone. The Matts argue it’s not a case of Rejoin - but Join. Joining what, though? That’s the interesting, most challenging question in European politics today. Enjoy!


    Produced by Matt Withers


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/

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    Podcast special: THIS WAR IS NOT REAL Mar 24, 2026
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    The Matts explore how French philosopher Jean Baudrillard was right about the nature of warfare in the 21st century - especially when applied to the unprecedented chaos unfolding in the Middle East. It is, we hope, a thought-provoking conversation which tries to make some sense of what seems utterly senseless. Also - the Matts react to the bombing of Jewish ambulances in North London and ask: why is nobody stating categorically that this is terrorism? Finally, they ask you, dear listener, to do something you almost certainly hadn’t been planning on doing - watch GB News. Why? Tune in and find out! Enjoy!


    Produced by Matt Withers


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/

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    The Two Matts Q&A: On Trump, GB News, Tony Blair… and playing the drums Mar 22, 2026
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    The Matts answer listeners' questions including whether or not Donald Trump has lost control of the war in Iran, why the BBC isn't covering The New World’s GB News investigation, how Tony Blair can still believe war in Iraq was right, whether we have learned nothing from Covid, if Angela Rayner is the next PM and how to keep sane in a world of dreadful news. Enjoy!


    Produced by Matt Withers


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts/

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