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    The Two Matts

    Join The New World’s Matt Kelly and Matt d’Ancona plus occasional guests for weekly chat on politics and media with a side of cultural stuff. A podcast in the spirit of the award-winning New World newspaper – irreverent, witty, surprising, argumentative … and annoying all the right people.


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    The BBC on trial Jul 15, 2025
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    It’s all about the UK’s public broadcaster today - The BBC. It’s had a shocker of a week, mitigated only by Gary O’Donoghue’s spellbinding interview with Donald Trump, which the Matts discuss in the first part of today’s pod. But then things turn south. Two damning reports - one into Gregg Wallace and one into the Gaza documentary broadcast then pulled as it emerged the narrator was the son of an Hamas official - have left Director General Tim Davie’s job hanging by a thread. As Lisa Nandy calls for heads to roll, the Matts argue about where the BBC is going wrong and what the consequences are for us all. It’s a feisty one. Enjoy.


    OFFER: Get The New World for just £1 for the first month. Head to https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/2matts

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    This week's Two Matts Q&A: Is it a genocide or not? Jul 13, 2025
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    Today on The Two Matts podcast Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. They discuss whether it is time to describe Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide, the launch of Best Start and what the appeal of Oasis is.

    Plus there’s talk about whether politicians should have an enforced retirement age, the government's expansive use of terrorism legislation, Jake Berry’s defection to Reform and what to see at the cinema.


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    Tax the (VERY) rich!! Jul 10, 2025
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    The Matts discuss the options available to Starmer and Reeves given they seem determined not to raise income tax, VAT and national insurance. Could taxing the enormously wealthy be an election winner? How could the property rich, cash poor be protected? And how would the Daily Mail come up with some spurious objection to protect their proprietor’s billions? But first … has the Macron visit produced the seeds to an end to the ghastly channel boat trade in immigrant crossings? And is a Franco-British nuclear weapon pact a good thing? Enjoy!


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    Special guest Tom Baldwin: Can Keir turn a bad start around? Jul 08, 2025
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    The Matts are joined by New World contributing editor Tom Baldwin - author of Keir Starmer The Biography - for an honesty session. Where has Labour gone wrong in its poor first year and is Keir Starmer the right man to turn things around and keep Farage out of Downing Street. It’s a tough conversation but full of insight and ideas (something Labour could do with some might say). Enjoy!


    Pre-order the new edition of Keir Starmer The Biography here


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    This week's Two Matts Q&A: Should we admire Keir Starmer's willingness to back down? Jul 06, 2025
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    Today on The Two Matts podcast, Matthew d'Ancona and Matt Kelly again respond to your queries. They discuss whether Keir Starmer’s willingness to back down and listen is actually something to be admired, if the Prime Minister should take more care with his speeches and how serious Palestine Action’s protests were. Plus they talk about the extent of corruption in UK politics, just how progressive the Labour Party is, and 80-year-old Rod Stewart’s Glastonbury set.


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    What really makes humans tick? And what’s going on in Number 10? Jul 03, 2025
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    The Matts are joined by Jonathan Goodman, author of Invisible Rivals, a fascinating book about what really makes the world go round and its consequences for religion, politics and media. It’s a revelatory conversation that will change how you think about society. Also the tragic death of Diogo Jota and his brother, plus what the hell is going on in Number Ten? Enjoy!


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    Meanwhile in Gaza… Have we lost our moral compass? Jul 01, 2025
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    The Matts reflect on the prospect of famine in Gaza while the UK media obsesses on the antics of a rapper on a Glastonbury stage. Why is the crisis facing hundreds of thousands of children relegated to an afterthought? Why does Keir Starmer say more about Bob Vylan than the humanitarian disaster on the eastern shore of the Med?

    Also: can Starmer survive the pirouettes of u-turns he is performing as the Parliamentary Labour Party rejects his welfare bill? As we approach his year anniversary in power, the Matts ask how long before we are discussing the end of the Keir show?


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    This week's Two Matts Q&A: Could Just Stop Oil now be considered terrorists? Jun 29, 2025
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    The Matts again respond to your queries. They discuss whether the government’s Palestine Action decision means Just Stop Oil could now be considered terrorists, if AI could actually be the populists’ worst nightmare and the genius of David Lynch.

    Plus they debate whether journalists should strive for detachment, Keir Starmer’s on-off welfare cuts and which is most cringeworthy: Mark Rutte calling Donald Trump Daddy, Trump comparing Israel and Iran to two schoolkids having a scrap in a playground or the president calling the media “scum”.


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    Keir Starmer in big trouble at home Jun 26, 2025
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    As the international news agenda moves at a frenzied pace, back home Keir Starmer faces a crisis of his own. The Matts explore the depth of feeling from amongst his own backbenchers against his welfare bill. It’s a crisis wholly of his own making and as Reform continues to surge in the polls, it bodes badly for all of us. Also - why did Mark Rutte call Trump daddy? And what was the Matts’ greatest Glasto moment? All will be revealed! Enjoy!


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    Trump drags the world to the edge of reality Jun 24, 2025
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    It’s been a few days of head-spinning consequence and the Matts explore the thinking of the man at its heart - Donald Trump. They kick off with an extraordinary moment; Trump losing his cool as Israel and Iran both appear to defy his ceasefire - but then the conversation moves quickly to what this means for the Middle East, for the UK, the United Nations, for NATO, and for the future of Europe. There’s a lot of ground covered this week … buckle up.


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