The ThoughtStretchers Podcast

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NASSP Leadership, Policy, And Student Well-Being Oct 15, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with return guest, Ronn Nozoe, CEO of the National Association of Secondary School Principals (NASSP).

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When Politics Hijacks Education Oct 08, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with Vladimir Kogan about his new book, No Adult Left Behind: How Politics Hijacks Education Policy and Hurts Kids.

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A Dynamic Equilibrium Of Research And Practice Oct 02, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with Rod Naquin about balancing educational research with practice as he returns to the classroom after 7 years doing educational leadership work.

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Bridging Gaps With Mental Models Sep 24, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with Jim Heal and Rebekah Berlin about their new book, Mental Models: How understanding the mind can transform the way you work and learn.

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"Soul-Destroying" Or Empowering Pedagogy? Sep 17, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with Karen Vaites about navigating educational tribalism, the "Science of Learning," and the impact of knowledge-rich, coherent curricula on student outcomes.

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Strategic Leadership Sep 11, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with Rachel Curtis and Liz City, co-authors of the book Leading Strategically: Achieving Ambitious Goals in Education.

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Using A Prohuman Curriculum To Build Character And Civic Virtue Aug 29, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with Christina LaRose about her work with the Prohuman Foundation to develop a curriculum focused on learning character through literature.

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Bridging The Science of Learning And Inquiry With Socratic Experience Jul 30, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with Michael Strong, founder of The Socratic Experience, a K–12 high-touch virtual school that equips students through Socratic dialogue, 1:1 mentoring, and creative and entrepreneurial projects.

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Is The Science of Learning 'Soul Destroying'? Jul 24, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with teacher-educator Rachael Jefferson about her Education HQ article from an interview that is critical of the Science of Learning movement.

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How To Have Nuanced Conversation Jul 14, 2025

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Drew Perkins talks with Shane Leaning as a guest on his Education Leaders podcast about how to have conversations that focus on nuance, complexity, and understanding.

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