Show notes
In Part 1 of this two part exploration, we turn from the mind to the body and begin with a mystery that modern science has struggled to explain. Energy healing is one of the oldest medical traditions on Earth, yet it has long existed at the margins of Western understanding. The episode opens with a Cambridge-trained material scientist, Simon Duan, whose worldview shifts instantly when a Qigong practitioner in China removes his wisdom teeth pain-free - without anesthesia. His story leads us into the origins of ancient Chinese medicine, where psychic doctors once perceived organs with their mind’s eye and communicated with plants to understand their medicinal properties. From there, we meet healer Julie Goeltz, whose husband’s life-threatening lymphedema disappeared during a Reiki session, launching her into a practice that now includes remote healing and vivid remote viewing experiences that transcend physical distance. We also hear from author and clinician Jill Blakeway, who describes energy healing as the body’s own intelligence becoming coherent and who has spent years tracing the science behind these subtle forces.
The investigation widens further through the work of physician-scientist Dr. Neil Theise, whose research helped identify the interstitium, a fluid-filled network running through the body that behaves electrically and may be the physical basis for meridians, chakras, and the subtle systems described by healers for thousands of years. This discovery raises a provocative possibility that the interstitium may carry not only fluid but information. If so, the boundary between mind and body becomes more permeable than we imagine. Part 1 sets the foundation for next week’s episode, where we follow healers and scientists into the lab as they attempt to capture what might be moving between people during healing itself.
Exciting update: As of April 2026, the scientific journal Cancer Medicine published a landmark study from MD Anderson Cancer Center showing energy healing slows pancreatic cancer growth and spread in pre-clinical research. This rigorous four-year study at one of the world’s top cancer institutes found that biofield therapy reliably reduced cancer metastasis by more than 50%, and influenced key biological systems, in cells and animals. Access the full study here: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cam4.71726
For this episode we would like to thank:
Phenomena, a three-part documentary and six part podcast featuring exclusive access to groundbreaking scientists, transformative healers, and evidence that’s rewriting what we know about energy healing and the human body https://www.phenomenahealing.com/telepathytapes
The Emerald Gate Charitable Trust, a philanthropic foundation committed to improving the human condition and expanding the conscious mind through rigorous scientific research, whose research has been cited in this podcast https://emeraldgatefoundation.org/research-projects/
The Subtle Energy Funders Collective, a network of philanthropists in support of bringing energy healing to the mainstream through a systems change approach www.subtleenergyfunderscollective.com
To work directly with Julie Goeltz visit www.juliegoeltz.com
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