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**The Talk Show With John Gruber**

The director’s commentary track for Daring Fireball. Long digressions on Apple, technology, design, movies, and more.

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385: ‘Who’s Heef?’, With Matthew Panzarino Sep 28, 2023

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Matthew Panzarino returns to the show to talk about the new iPhones 15.

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This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

384: ‘Pleading the Fifth’, With Michael Simmons Aug 31, 2023

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Flexibits co-founder Michael Simmons returns to the show to talk about his experience at Apple’s developer lab for Vision Pro, and his enthusiasm for the future of spatial computing.

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383: ‘A Photocopy of a Fax’, With Jason Snell Aug 29, 2023

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Jason Snell, come on down. You’re the next contestant on The Talk Show. Special topics: John Warnock and Adobe, Disney and Apple, the iMac’s 25th anniversary, and more.

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John Warnock, RIP
- “Inside the Publishing Revolution: The Adobe Story” by Pamela Pfiffner
iPhone charging clickbait nonsense:
- TheStreet: “Apple issues a surprise iPhone danger warning”
- Yahoo News: “Apple says don’t sleep next to charging phone”
- What Apple actually says, which isn’t new
Apple and Disney:
- Jason at Macworld: “Apple Buying Disney Isn’t the Fairy Tale It Once Was”
- Yours truly: “Disney and Apple, Sitting in a Tree”, and “Walt Disney’s Mid-Century Business Strategy Charts”
- “Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination” by Neal Gabler
iMac at 25:
- Jason writing at the Verge: “How the iMac Saved Apple”
- Me, linking to Jason’s piece
- Me, linking to Steven Levy’s 1998 Newsweek profile of Jobs and the original iMac
- Jason’s 20 Macs for 2020 podcast series. You’ll never guess which Mac (rightfully) topped the list.
iPad as travel computer, or really just a computer:
“Perfect Bid” — fun Netflix documentary on the guy who beat The Price Is Right
Bike: Hog Bay Software’s excellent new(ish) Mac outliner
“Headless Body in Topless Bar”, the greatest headline ever written

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

382: ‘What’s Happening‽’, With Craig Hockenberry Jul 31, 2023

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Craig Hockenberry, the special guest with the special fleshy palms, returns to the show. Topics include Twitter/X, foldable phones, and our favorite features in iOS 17 now that it’s in public beta.

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Craig’s weekend fun: updating Twitter’s “How to Tweet” support document to “How to X”. Surprisingly funny.
Adam Sandler’s “Ode to My Car”:
- “Car honk” radio-friendly version, which really is even funnier than the album version.
- Album version, replete with cuss words.
The Iconfactory.
- Triode: “The best way to enjoy all of your favorite Internet radio stations wherever you go.”
- The rest of their excellent lineup of apps.
Furbo, Craig’s blog.
Morton Downey Jr., “trash TV” pioneer.
- YouTube clips.
Studio Neat’s Material Docks, perfect for the upcoming Standby mode in iOS 17.

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

381: ‘Tape Deck Dongle’, With Joanna Stern Jul 11, 2023

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Joanna Stern returns to the show. Topics include the launch of Threads, Apple’s Vision Pro, and iPhone/iCloud device security. Also, some accidental car talk.

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Joanna’s Rock ’Em Sock ’Em CEOs, Zuck vs. Musk Edition.
- Zuck vs. Cook, back in 2021.
Joanna and Nicole Nguyen’s investigative series for the WSJ on organized thieves stealing Apple IDs after stealing iPhones and gleaning their passcodes:
- February: “A Basic iPhone Feature Helps Criminals Steal Your Entire Digital Life”
- April: “The iPhone Setting Thieves Use to Lock You Out of Your Apple Account”
Me and Joanna trying to figure out whether Facebook should make an iPad app or web app next for Threads. (It’ll probably be the web app.)
Hillary Clinton joins Threads with a joke, and the top replies are civil and fun.
Paris Hilton’s collection of old — really old — phones.
Mark Zuckerberg posting on Threads:

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

380: ‘The M Is for Magnificent’, With Matthew Panzarino Jun 30, 2023

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Matthew Panzarino returns to the show for a post-WWDC discussion about Vision Pro and VisionOS.

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This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

379: ‘An Extra Kick in the Nuts’, With Christian Selig Jun 17, 2023

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Christian Selig, developer of the excellent apps Apollo and Pixel Pals, joins the show to talk about Reddit's Twitter-fication, along with highlights from WWDC 2023.

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Craig’s weekend fun: updating Twitter’s “How to Tweet” support document to “How to X”. Surprisingly funny.
Adam Sandler’s “Ode to My Car”:
- “Car honk” radio-friendly version, which really is even funnier than the album version.
- Album version, replete with cuss words.
The Iconfactory.
- Triode: “The best way to enjoy all of your favorite Internet radio stations wherever you go.”
- The rest of their excellent lineup of apps.
Furbo, Craig’s blog.
X Corp’s crazy-bright fast-flashing headquarters sign.
Morton Downey Jr., “trash TV” pioneer.
- YouTube clips.
Studio Neat’s Material Docks, perfect for the upcoming Standby mode in iOS 17.

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

378: ‘Live From WWDC 2023’, With John Ternus, Mike Rockwell, Craig Federighi, and Greg Joswiak Jun 07, 2023

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Back in San Jose’s historic California Theatre for the first time since 2019, special guests John Ternus, Mike Rockwell, Craig Federighi, and Greg Joswiak join me to discuss the news and announcements from WWDC 2023.

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Audio engineering: Caleb Sexton.

377: ‘guyenglish.zip’, With Guy English May 31, 2023

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Guy English returns to the show to talk about the live show from WWDC, Mac Pros past and future, Marathon and Mac gaming, and Apple’s seemingly imminent XR headset. And definitely not to talk about Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker.

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The Talk Show Live From WWDC 2013, with special guests Guy English and Scott Simpson. (Audio only — no video back then.)
Tickets for this year’s show at WWDC 2023.
SectorC: A C compiler in 512 bytes.
Wikipedia’s entry on the original Marathon.
“How Bungie’s Marathon Connects to the Original Game”.
Bungie’s teaser site for the new Marathon.
Apple’s MS-DOS compatible 486 Macintosh from 1995.
Harman Kardon SoundSticks. (In the show, we erroneously attribute them to Bose. We regret the error.)

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

376: ‘One True HIG’, With Neil Jhaveri May 29, 2023

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Neil Jhaveri, founder and lead developer of Mimestream, the terrific new native Mac email client for Gmail, joins the show to talk about email, Mac apps, and indie software development.

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This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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