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    The State of It

    Real reporting from the coalface of British politics.

    Join The Times and The Sunday Times’s political heavyweights Steven Swinford, Ben Riley-Smith, Patrick Maguire and Lara Spirit as they dig deep into the latest tea room tip offs, reveal insider conversations and bring analysis, authority and insight.

    No party loyalty. No spin. Not hosted by some old politicians. Taking you into the real business of politics, from those who live it daily.

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    The State of It's Christmas Awards Dec 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Political moment of the year? Civil war of the year? And who or what gets The Actual State of It Award? 2025 offered rich pickings for our inaugural Christmas awards.


    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

    Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times

    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Who will move first: Streeting or Burnham? Dec 16, 2025
    Show notes

    Senior Labour figures say a challenge to Keir Starmer's leadership could come as early as next month. But who will move first? Andy Burnham, Wes Streeting and Angela Rayner are all on manoeuvres.


    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

    Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times

    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    Picture credit: Getty Images


    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Angela Rayner's main character energy Dec 09, 2025
    Show notes

    Angela Rayner turned down a chance to appear on I'm a Celebrity because she wasn't done with politics. Will she return to cabinet or make a bid for the leadership herself? Patrick has been told what she really thinks of the idea of a pact with Wes Streeting.

    Also, Keir Starmer's plan for turning things around – and the bear traps on the path ahead.


    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

    Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times

    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    Picture credit: Getty Images

    Clips: The Liz Truss Show


    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    The stench of decay coming from Downing Street Dec 02, 2025
    Show notes

    The budget gave Labour MPs a lift but for how long? They're already getting uneasy, and some members of the cabinet are so cross that they're proactively ringing The Times. Also, Patrick reminisces about his weekend at the Your Party conference...and Brexit makes a comeback.


    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

    Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times

    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    Picture credit: Getty Images


    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Bonus Episode: Labour's economics-free budget Nov 28, 2025
    Show notes

    The dust has settled on Rachel Reeves’s budget. What does it really mean for the country? Is there any real economics behind it? And is it politically fatal for Labour? Tune in to our bonus episode recorded live in Westminster.


    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Fraser Nelson, columnist, The Times

    Mehreen Khan, economics editor, The Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    Picture credit: Getty Images


    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Starmer and Reeves's reverse Midas touch Nov 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Rachel Reeves may have appeased Labour MPs but at what cost? We exclusively reveal just how bad relations are between Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana. We also discuss whether recent allegations against Nigel Farage are a big problem for him, and the political fall-out from Gabriel's story that West Midlands Police acted on false intelligence when they banned Maccabi Tel Aviv fans from an Aston Villa game.


    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    Picture credit: Getty Images

    Clips: Times Radio


    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Mahmood vs the liberal luminaries Nov 18, 2025
    Show notes

    Shabana Mahmood brings Blue Labour values to the Home Office, but can the human rights lawyer in Keir Starmer hold the line? Also, after last week's episode unleashed chaos in Westminster, we look at the anatomy of a briefing war and the chancellor's sudden u-turn on income tax. And today's scoop: how the Corbynite left is eating itself while Zack Polanski is eating their lunch.


    Warning: offensive language


    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    Picture credit: Getty Images

    Clips: Parliament Live, Times Radio


    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Have a go if you think you're hard enough Nov 11, 2025
    Show notes

    We reveal how the prime minister intends to fight a leadership challenge that he now sees as inevitable. Meanwhile the chancellor plans to scrap the two-child benefit cap to appease some Labour MPs, even though there are no votes in it. And why are phrases like 'carpet bombing' and 'harassment' being applied to Steve's reporting style?


    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

    Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times

    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    Picture credit: Getty Images


    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    If you're going to raise taxes, why not just say so? Nov 04, 2025
    Show notes

    Before the election, Rachel Reeves said she wasn't going to raise taxes on working people. Well, guess what? It looks like that's exactly what she's about to do. We reveal the measures the treasury is considering. And even the Labour whips are talking about a spring leadership challenge. Could a former leader make a comeback? And is Keir Starmer's Terminator demeanour helping or hindering him?


    Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

    Caroline Wheeler, political editor, The Sunday Times

    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    Picture credit: Getty Images


    Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk

    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Has Starmer gone woke? Oct 28, 2025
    Show notes

    In this half-term special, Gabriel Pogrund and Patrick Maguire tackle the week’s heavyweight political stories. Gabriel lifts the lid on a capital S scoop from his morning's round of whatsapping, and Patrick explores what Plaid Cymru’s triumph in Caerphilly means for Labour and Reform? And has Keir Starmer really gone woke?


    Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

    Gabriel Pogrund, Whitehall editor, The Sunday Times


    Producer: Euan Dawtrey

    Executive producer: Molly Guinness


    This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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