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    The Rough Cut

    The Rough Cut features in-depth interviews with the film and tv industry’s top post production professionals on the topics of film editing, video editing, sound design and more. Hosted by @MattFeury.

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    Gran Turismo Sep 04, 2023
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    Editor - Colby Parker Jr., ACE

    GRAN TURISMO editor Colby Parker Jr ACE has largely built his feature-film editing career on high-adrenaline action films, most notably for his work with director Peter Berg; including FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS (2004), PATRIOTS DAY (2016), DEEPWATER HORIZON (2016) and MILE 22 (2018). Colby even took a turn in the MCU, cutting ANT-MAN (2015) alongside Dan Lebental ACE. Bypassing the usual assistant editor route, Parker began his professional journey cutting music videos, which he credits with helping to build his editorial chops for the action genre.

    The true story of a team of unlikely underdogs -- a working-class gamer, a former race-car driver, and an idealistic motorsport executive, GRAN TURISMO is directed by Neill Blomkamp from a screenplay by Jason Hall and Zach Baylin. Produced by Columbia Pictures, PlayStation Productions, and 2.0 Entertainment, it is based on the racing simulation video game series of the same name and tells the true story of Jann Mardenborough, a teenage Gran Turismo player who became a professional race car driver.

    Editing Gran Turismo

    In our discussion with GRAN TURISMO editor Colby Parker Jr. ACE, we talk about:

    • Going from Berg to Blomkamp
    • Starting with score, but skipping SICARIO
    • Gamer Vision
    • The sight and sound duties of assistant editors
    • Fighting back against the director
    The Credits

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    The Righteous Gemstones Aug 28, 2023
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    Editors - Justin Bourret ACE, Todd Zelin, Dave Canseco and Joseph Ettinger

    If THE RIGHTEOUS GEMSTONES editors ever tire of working in postproduction, perhaps they can get a job at Cinnabon, because their cutting rooms have the unique distinction of being located in a mall. But considering how much fun the quartet has working on the show and with one another, that career change might just have to wait awhile. For now, audiences can enjoy three seasons of their hilarious work on MAX.

    THE RIGHTEOUS GEMSTONES are living proof that worship pays dividends in all sizes. Patriarch Eli (John Goodman), the man most responsible for the tremendous success of the family's megachurch, is in mourning over the loss of his wife. Jesse (Danny McBride), the eldest of the three grown Gemstone siblings, looks to lead in his father's footsteps, but finds his past sins jeopardizing the family ministry. Next in line comes middle sister Judy (Edi Patterson), who secretly lives with her fiancé and dreams of escaping the Gemstone compound. Rounding out the dysfunctional trio is pseudo-hipster Kelvin (Adam DeVine), the youngest of the preachers and a thorn in Jesse's side. As the family battles numerous threats to their renowned religious empire, they continue to spread the good word... and make a solid buck doing so.

    JUSTIN BOURRET, ACE

    In addition to his editorial duties, Justin also serves as co-producer on THE RIGHTEOUS GEMSTONES. He is also known for his work on FOR ALL MANKIND (2019) and VICE PRINCIPALS (2016).

    TODD ZELIN

    New Jersey native Todd is an editor and producer, known for FRESH OFF THE BOAT (2015) and ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT (2003).

    DAVE CANSECO

    David Canseco began his journey with THE RIGHTEOUS GEMSTONES in Season 1 as an assistant editor, before working his way up to editor on Season 3. He has also worked on THE GOLDBERGS (2013) and POOLMAN (2023).

    JOSEPH ETTINGER

    New to the Gemstones team in Season 3, Joseph is also known for ROAR (2022) and DEAD TO ME (2019).

    Editing THE RIGHTEOUS GEMSTONES

    In our discussion with the "GEMSTONES" editing team, we talk about:

    • Setting up shop in Sears
    • Walking the tonal tightrope
    • Going to editing summer camp
    • Mining the gems from all that footage
    • Fun with full frontal nudity
    The Credits

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    Obi-Wan Kenobi Aug 21, 2023
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    Editors - Kelley Dixon, ACE and Josh Earl, ACE

    The OBI-WAN KENOBI editing team of Kelley Dixon, ACE and Josh Earl, ACE have long been friends outside of the cutting room, but "Obi-Wan" is the first project they've shared. 5x Emmy-winning editor, Josh Earl didn't have to think twice about Kelley Dixon's offer to join the Lucasfilm series, ostensibly as her assistant even though he's worked for years as an editor. Being a self-professed "Star Wars Nerd", Josh jumped at the chance no matter what his role would be. As for Kelley, her plan was always to have Josh's creative editorial talents shine through during post; culminating in him sharing editing credit with her on the series finale and earning both another Emmy nomination.

    OBI-WAN KENOBI takes place ten years after the events of STAR WARS: EPISODE III - REVENGE OF THE SITH (2005)—in which the Jedi were purged with Order 66 and Obi-Wan Kenobi's apprentice, Anakin Skywalker, became the Sith Lord Darth Vader—Kenobi is in hiding on the planet Tatooine, watching over Anakin's son, Luke, when he is called on a mission to rescue Anakin's daughter, Leia, after she is kidnapped by the Galactic Empire's Jedi-hunting Inquisitors in a plot to draw Kenobi out. This leads to yet another dramatic duel between Kenobi and Vader.

    KELLEY DIXON, ACE

    In addition to her Emmy®-nominated work on OBI-WAN KENOBI, Kelley won an Emmy, plus three additional nominations, for her work on BREAKING BAD (2008-13), and would go on to rack up five more nominations for her subsequent work on the BREAKING BAD spinoff, BETTER CALL SAUL (2015-17). In recent years, Kelley has expanded her resume to include feature films such as THE GOLDFINCH (2019) and BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER (2022).

    JOSH EARL, ACE

    Josh earned his Star Wars "cred" long before his turn on OBI-WAN KENOBI, having cut MARK HAMILL'S POP CULTURE QUEST (2016-17). But it was his work on the long-running reality hit DEADLIEST CATCH (2006-2019) that put five Emmy's on Josh's trophy shelf, right next to his Star Wars action figures. Among his many other credits, Josh has cut shows like AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 WAYS (2011) and documentaries such as SKI BUM: THE WARREN MILLER STORY (2019).

    Editing OBI-WAN KENOBI

    In our discussion with the OBI-WAN KENOBI editing team of Kelley Dixon, ACE and Josh Earl, ACE, we talk about:

    • Bringing something from Breaking Bad to Tatooine
    • Making the jump from editor to assistant editor?
    • Being on location in "The Volume"
    • Synthesizing new sounds for the Sith Lord
    • Intercutting with lightsabers
    The Credits

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    BEEF Aug 14, 2023
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    Editors - Laura Zempel and Nat Fuller

    The Emmy®-nominated BEEF editing team of Laura Zempel and Nat Fuller came into this project with plenty of experience crafting storylines featuring complicated characters and situations. Nat kicked off his career with another well-known Netflix property, STRANGER THINGS, starting as an assistant before transitioning to full editorial duties on the Duffer Brothers supernatural juggernaut. For Laura, her time in the editing suites of complex dramas began with assisting on DEXTER, to ultimately cutting on HBO's critically-acclaimed EUPHORIA.

    Created by Korean director Lee Sung Jin (Sunny) for Netflix, BEEF stars Steven Yeun and Ali Wong as Danny Cho and Amy Lau, two strangers whose involvement in a road rage incident escalates into a prolonged feud.

    LAURA ZEMPEL

    In addition to her Emmy®-nominated work on BEEF, Laura's skills as an editor can be seen in EUPHORIA (2019-22), DISPATCHES FROM ELSEWHERE (2020) and ROOM 104 (2017-19). Prior to that, she assisted on HOUSE OF CARDS (2014), DEXTER (2011-13) and IF I CAN DREAM (2010).

    NAT FULLER

    Nat's journey to being an Emmy®-nominated editor began with assisting duties on the features MALEFICENT (2014) and THE LAST WITCH HUNTER (2015), in addition to the debut season of STRANGER THINGS (2017). Fuller would go on to co-edit the indie THE PEANUT BUTTER FALCON (2019) amidst taking on lead editing duties for Seasons 2-4 for STRANGER THINGS (2017-22).

    Editing BEEF

    In our discussion with the BEEF editing team of Laura Zempel and Nat Fuller, we talk about:

    • Filling two gigs with one agent
    • Nailing the ninety's needle drops
    • Not taking sides in the edit
    • Sound designing drug trips
    • Taming the tension in postproduction
    The Credits

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    Oppenheimer Aug 04, 2023
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    Editor - Jennifer Lame ACE, Additional Editor - Mike Fay, 1st Assistant Editor - Nick Ellsberg and 1st Assistant Film Editor - Tom Foligno

    The OPPENHEIMER editing team of Jennifer Lame ACE, Mike Fay, Nick Ellsberg and Tom Foligno applied their collective storytelling talents to film technology both old and new. While Jennifer and Mike worked to shape and refine Christopher Nolan's story into an instant classic, Nick and Tom were tasked with mastering a hybrid film and digital workflow to make the most of Nolan's brilliant 70MM IMAX footage.

    Based on the 2005 biography American Prometheus by Kai Bird and Martin J. Sherwin, the film chronicles the life of American theoretical physicist and polymath J. Robert Oppenheimer. The story predominantly focuses on Oppenheimer's early studies, his direction of the Manhattan Project during World War II, and his eventual fall from grace due to his 1954 security hearing; juxtaposed with this are events surrounding Oppenheimer's relationship with Lewis Strauss, a senior member of the United States Atomic Energy Commission who sees Oppenheimer as a rival. It stars Cillian Murphy as Oppenheimer and Robert Downey Jr. as Strauss, with the remaining ensemble supporting cast including Emily Blunt, Matt Damon, Florence Pugh, Josh Hartnett, Casey Affleck, Rami Malek and Kenneth Branagh.

    JENNIFER LAME, ACE

    While Jen claims that her "wheelhouse" in editorial is films that feature people talking in rooms, as her work on MANCHESTER BY THE SEA (2016) and MARRIAGE STORY (2019) both prove, you wouldn't know it by her standout work in bigger features like Christopher Nolan's TENET (2020) and BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER (2022).

    MIKE FAY

    As Jen Lame was wrapping up things on WAKANDA FOREVER, she entrusted the early assembly duties on OPPENHEIMER to Mike Fay. Prior to OPPENHEIMER, Mike had been sharpening his skills as an assistant editor on LIFE OF PI (2012) and GHOSTBUSTERS: AFTERLIFE (2021) and as a VFX Editor on JOHN WICK: CHAPTER 3 - PARABELLUM (2019) and BULLET TRAIN (2022).

    NICK ELLSBERG

    Nick and Mike Fay had more than a passing familiarity prior to OPPENHEIMER. Like Mike, Nick worked on BULLET TRAIN (2022), GHOSTBUSTERS: AFTERLIFE (2021), and JOHN WICK: CHAPTER 3 - PARABELLUM as an assistant editor.

    TOM FOLIGNO

    A veteran of the Marty Scorsese film school, having worked as an assistant on CASINO (1995), BRINGING OUT THE DEAD (1999), GANGS OF NEW YORK (2002) and THE AVIATOR (2004), Tom was able to return to his film editing roots and dust off his splicer for his role in the film cutting room on OPPENHEIMER.

    Editing OPPENHEIMER

    In our talk with the OPPENHEIMER editing team, we discuss...

    • The beauty of awkward people talking in rooms
    • Keeping up the pace on a three-hour biopic
    • Whistling past the biggest scene in the movie because you already know it will be great
    • Bringing film workflows back to life, bigger than ever
    • Loving Chris Nolan's "all business' approach in the cutting room
    The Credits

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    Barbie Jul 31, 2023
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    Editor - Nick Houy ACE, VFX Editor - Matt Garner and Apprentice Editor - Maya Rivera

    The BARBIE editing team of Nick Houy ACE, Matt Garner and Maya Rivera seemed to have as much fun in the cutting room as what audiences saw on the big screen. Despite this being the first time the three worked together, they described the process of working on BARBIE to be an open, collaborative "family" atmosphere where both personal time and creative contributions were valued.

    Stereotypical "Barbie" (Margot Robbie) and a wide range of fellow Barbies all reside in Barbieland, a matriarchal society where all women are self-confident, self-sufficient, and successful. While their Ken counterparts spend their days engaging in recreational activities at the beach, the Barbies hold important positions as doctors, lawyers, and politicians. Beach "Ken" (Ryan Gosling) is only happy when he is with Barbie and seeks a closer relationship, but Barbie rebuffs him in favor of independence and female friendships. Barbie and Ken are having the time of their lives in the colorful and seemingly perfect world of Barbieland. However, when they get a chance to go to the "real" world, they soon discover the joys and perils of living among humans.

    NICK HOUY, ACE

    NYC-based Nick Houy is now on his third film with actor/writer/director Greta Gerwig. The two previously teamed up for LADY BIRD (2017) and LITTLE WOMEN (2019). In addition to his work with Gerwig, Nick has also cut for actor/director Jonah Hill on MID90'S (2018) and STUTZ (2022). In 2017, Nick won an Emmy co-editing the first episode of the mini-series THE NIGHT OF alongside editor Jay Cassidy.

    MATT GARNER

    Coming into his work on BARBIE, Matt brought with him the enviable experience of having worked on three films for director Martin Scorsese; HUGO (2011), THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (2013) and THE IRISHMAN (2019).

    MAYA RIVERA

    Apprentice editor Maya Rivera's editorial career had hardly begun and yet she was a valued contributor to the biggest film of 2023. Much of that can be attributed to her initiative in walking up to editor Nick Houy at a screening for LITTLE WOMEN and saying, "I want to work with you"!

    Editing BARBIE

    In our talk with the BARBIE editing team, we discuss...

    • First reactions to a film nobody thought could happen
    • Building a better Barbieland
    • Barbie vs The Irishman
    • Whose baby is this?
    • Making things up (music? entire scenes?) as you go along
    The Credits

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    Abbott Elementary Jul 24, 2023
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    Editors - Richie Edelson and Sarah Zeitlin

    The ABBOTT ELEMENTARY editing team of Richie Edelson and Sarah Zeitlin walked similar but separate paths in the early stages of their careers. Each cut their editorial teeth in the world of unscripted and both took a turn at the same mockumentary sitcom format that they would employ in the show that finally united them as co-editors.

    Abbott Elementary is a mockumentary sitcom created by Quinta Brunson for ABC. It stars Brunson as Janine Teagues, an optimistic second-grade teacher at the poorly funded Willard R. Abbott Elementary School; a predominantly Black Philadelphia public school where a documentary crew is recording the lives of teachers working in underfunded, mismanaged schools. Although conditions at the school are harsh and most teachers don't last more than two years, Teagues is determined to help her students despite the circumstances.

    RICHIE EDELSON

    Richie's early career path found him in the cutting rooms of popular unscripted series such as PROJECT RUNWAY (2008), REAL CHANCE OF LOVE (2008-09) and ROB DYRDEK'S FANTASY FACTORY (2009). Soon after he would get to flex his comedy chops on sitcoms like PARKS AND RECREATION (2012-13), BLACK-ISH (2014-17) and SUPERSTORE (2017-21). It would be Edelson at the helm of the Avid when it came time to develop the pilot for the soon-to-be hit series, ABBOTT ELEMENTARY (2021-23).

    SARAH ZEITLIN

    Like Richie, Sarah has also logged a few miles on the road of reality television; assisting on HELL'S KITCHEN (2008), plus assisting and editing on THE MILLIONAIRE MATCHMAKER (2008-11). But it would be assisting on the mockumentary hits MODERN FAMILY (2009-10) and PARKS AND RECREATION (2012) that would be a sign of things to come for her role as editor on ABBOTT ELEMENTARY (2022-23). Sarah's work as an editor can also be seen in dramas like HOMELAND (2017-20) and MAYOR OF KINGSTOWN (2021).

    Editing Abbott Elementary

    In our discussion with the ABBOTT ELEMENTARY editing team of Richie Edelson and Sarah Zeitlin, we talk about:

    • The hidden benefits of commercial breaks
    • The anatomy of a mockumentary sitcom
    • The truth of building a character through comedy
    • The sound of silence or just a bad speaker?
    • Lovely parting gifts
    The Credits

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    Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1 Jul 17, 2023
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    Editor - Eddie Hamilton ACE

    MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - DEAD RECKONING PART 1 editor Eddie Hamilton ACE has been immersed in the TCEU (Tom Cruise Extended Universe) since 2015 when Eddie took the editorial helm of MISSION IMPOSSIBLE: ROGUE NATION. And with the exception of a quick return to his roots with director Matthew Vaughn for KINGSMAN: THE GOLDEN CIRCLE (2017), Eddie has spent all his subsequent time working on MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - FALLOUT (2018), TOP GUN: MAVERICK (2022) and the upcoming MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - DEAD RECKONING PARTS 2 (2024). Both within, and beyond, these three franchises, Eddie has clearly set himself apart as one of the top action-movie editors working today.

    In this latest installment of the now 7-film long action franchise, Ethan Hunt and the IMF team must track down a terrifying new weapon that threatens all of humanity if it falls into the wrong hands. With control of the future and the fate of the world at stake, a deadly race around the globe begins. Confronted by a mysterious, all-powerful enemy, Ethan is forced to consider that nothing can matter more than the mission -- not even the lives of those he cares about most.

    Editing Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1

    In our discussion with editor Eddie Hamilton ACE, we talk about:

    • Cutting two films at one time
    • Action first, dialogue last
    • "Have 160TB hard drive, will travel"
    • The verbal choreography of an exposition scene
    • Edgar Wright's keen ear for storytelling
    The Credits

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    Joy Ride Jul 10, 2023
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    Editor - Nena Erb, ACE

    JOY RIDE wasn't the film Emmy-winning editor Nena Erb ACE was looking for when she asked her agent to see what was out there, but Nena WAS the editor that JOY RIDE was looking for. Fortunately, they found each other, because together they created a film that broke boundaries, not to mention the mold, when it comes to how Asian women are portrayed in comedy features. After building a career in TV on reality shows like REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY and DANCING WITH THE STARS, as well as comedy hits like CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND and INSECURE, Nena wanted a drama for her first big feature project, and within the brash bawdiness of JOY RIDE, Nena found the drama she was seeking.

    JOY RIDE stars Ashley Park as upwardly mobile career woman, Audrey Sullivan. When Audrey's business trip to Asia goes sideways, she enlists the help of Lolo (Sherry Cola), her childhood best friend, Kat (Stephanie Hsu), a college friend, and Deadeye (Sabrina Wu), Lolo's eccentric cousin. Their epic, no-holds-barred experience becomes a journey of bonding, friendship, belonging and wild debauchery that reveals the universal truth of what it means to know and love who you are.

    Editing Joy Ride

    In our discussion with JOY RIDE editor Nena Erb ACE, we talk about:

    • Finding what you're looking for in the place you weren't looking
    • Dialing up the "dirty" all the way to the drama
    • The post process for first-time directors
    • The subtle art of sub-titles in comedy
    • Sound design for assistants
    The Credits

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    Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Jul 03, 2023
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    Editors - Mike McCusker ACE, Andrew Buckland ACE and Dirk Westervelt ACE

    The INDIANA JONES AND THE DIAL OF DESTINY editing team of McCusker, Buckland and Westervelt have been amping up the action in the cutting room for a while now. First joining up for James Mangold's LOGAN (2017); the team would collaborate once more on Mangold's FORD V FERRARI (2019) before finding themselves at the editorial helm of the fifth, and most likely final, installment of the Indiana Jones franchise.

    INDANA JONES AND THE DIAL OF DESTINY sees daredevil archaeologist Indiana Jones race against time to retrieve a legendary dial that can change the course of history. Accompanied by his goddaughter, he soon finds himself squaring off against Jürgen Voller, a former Nazi who works for NASA.

    MIKE McCUSKER, ACE

    Aside from his Oscar®-winning turn in Mangold's FORD v FERRARI (2019), Mike McCusker is known for a wide variety of films including; WALK THE LINE (2005), AUSTRALIA (2008), THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (2012) and THE GREATEST SHOWMAN (2017)

    ANDREW BUCKLAND, ACE

    Also an Oscar®-winner for FORD v FERRARI (2019), Andrew "Don't call me Andy" Buckland is a frequent editorial collaborator with Mike McCusker on films like; 3:10 TO YUMA (2007), THE WOLVERINE (2013) and THE GIRL ON THE TRAIN (2016).

    DIRK WESTERVELT, ACE

    When he's not cutting for James Mangold on projects such as; LOGAN (2017) and FORD v FERRARI (2019), Dirk's editing chops can be seen in DEADPOOL 2 (2018) and ZOMBIELAND: DOUBLE TAP (2019).

    Editing INDIANA JONES AND THE DIAL OF DESTINY

    In our discussion with Mike, Andrew and Dirk, we talk about:

    • Making the most of motifs
    • To Wilhelm or not to Wilhelm
    • Dealing with dialogue during de-aging
    • A touch of 70's cinema for Indy
    • Andrew Buckland - Man of a Thousand Voices
    The Credits

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