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    The Riff Raff with Shane Theriot

    The Riff Raff started as an idea I had a few years ago just to sit and chat with my friends whom I consider to be inspirational to me in some way- whether it be as a musician, artist or whatever the case may be. Over the years, as a working musician, I’ve been lucky to work with many amazing people and musicians and would like to share some of their stories with you.

    I’m a professional musician. I like stories. I mean… I REALLY like stories. Oh, and I love jokes too. Luckily, I work with some of the best in the business, and they happen to have great stories (and usually great jokes as well). Anyway, i want to put these stories down for people to enjoy – it’s fun. Some people like to garden, or take photos, or collect magnets for the fridge… but me? I like to get these stories down for all to enjoy!

    So this is a podcast about the creative process and, yes, being a guitar player, we do occasionally talk shop, gear, etc., but I’m not going to limit it to that as I get this thing going.

    Oh yeah, we jam a bit too!

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    Episode 15 with Jon Herington (Steely Dan) Aug 17, 2017
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    My guest today is Mr. Jon Herington. Currently the guitarist for Steely Dan, Jon has long been one of NYC’s top tier musicians and first call cats. His resume boasts many credits, (including Boz Scaggs, Michael Brecker, Bill Evans, Bette Midler, Madeleine Peyroux and many others,) but the mainstay of his workload is the coveted guitar chair with Steely Dan, a gig he has held since 1999.

    As you'll hear, Jon and I have been friends for a while and it was great to catch up and have some laughs. You may say “wow if someone had to go in and sub for Jon those would be some huge shoes to fill” and yes you would be correct 'cause I’ve had to do it!- not just once, but twice. Jon was gracious enough back in 2007 or 2008 (can’t remember) to recommend me for the Boz Scaggs gig while he was out with Steely Dan and then also to Madeleine Peyroux. I kept both those chairs "warm" for a quite a few years while he moved in and out of Steely Dan tours which resulted quite a bit of work for me for 3-4 years.

    In this little hang I ask Jon about his early years, Jack McDuff, what his first break was in NYC, his first solo record- The Complete Rhyming Dictionary, (now retitled "Pulse and Cadence", Broadway gigs, how he landed the gig with Steely Dan, what it’s like to play with those guys and much more. He also shows me his approach to soloing over the quick chord changes to the classic tune Black Friday and we jam on the tune. We also talk about his current Jon Herington Band and his new transcription of chord melodies. Lot’s of nuggets of career advice in this one for you younger musicians!

    Recorded SoHo NYC, Aug 2017

    Brent Mason, Shane Theriot, Jon Herington

    John's website- http://www.jonherington.com/


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    Episode 14 with bassist Mark Egan (Pat Metheny, Duran Duran, Dave Sanborn, Gil Evans, Sting etc..) Jul 22, 2017
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    My guest today is Mark Egan. Mark is a world renowned bassist, composer and bandleader who has recorded and performed with many of the greats in the world of music. He was an original member of the Pat Metheny group, the first incarnation of the band which produced such classic records as American Garage. Mark has also recorded many of his own projects and solo records; perhaps the best known of these being the band Elements, with drummer Danny Gottlieb, with whom he shares a close musical relationship with to this day.

    In this interview Mark tells me about his early days at the University of Miami, the transition from trumpet to bass, studying and playing with Jaco Pastorius, getting his first fretless bass from Jaco, his early gigs in NY, joining the Pat Metheny group, David Sanborn and many others. I also ask him about his gigs with Sting, Gil Evans, Duran Duran, and get this- Bill Cosby- (he actually made a great record called Where you Lay Your Head- check it out!). We also do a few total improv jams and you get to hear Mark's flowing fretless lines that have graced so many recordings.

    I had the pleasure of recording with Mark for an upcoming project a few months ago and it was great fun. He’s worked with a who’s who in the world of guitar- Metheny, Pat Martino, Scofield, John Abercrombie, John McLaughlin, and the list keeps going….

    Anyway, I took the train up from Manhattan to Mark’s studio in Connecticut, and missed the connection…oops! Not to worry, I finally get to Mark’s beautiful home and studio and we are off and running.

    It’s my pleasure to bring you this episode of the Riff Raff with one of the world's greatest bassists, Mark Egan. Hope you enjoy!

    (Interview recorded June 2017 at Mark's studio in CT.)

    (Pic below taken at Vancouver Jazz Festival- Pat Martino, Shane Theriot, Mark Egan (2004)


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    Episode 13 with Zachary Richard (Solo artist, songwriter, author) Jun 28, 2017
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    My guest today is Mr. Zachary Richard. Songwriter, performer, poet, activist. Zachary is like a "Cajun- renaissance" man, who has never ceased promoting and educating others about the French identity of South Louisiana and his Cajun heritage. Beginning his career in the early 1970’s up to now- with almost 25 albums to his name, Grammy nominations, 3 volumes of poetry and even children's books, he remains a prolific and passionate artist. (And as you’ll hear Zachary has had some great guitarists and musicians in his bands, among them Sonny Landreth and Bill Dillon.)

    As you'll hear in this interview, Zachary is also a very soulful singer, and puts his heart into all his lyrics and song ideas.

    In this episode, Zachary discusses songwriting, his Cajun heritage, guitars, and we also play a few songs together. This episode of the Riff Raff was recorded in the front parlor of my home in New Orleans, LA on a beautiful day on June 4, 2017.

    (photo by Shiho Theriot)

    LINKS

    Zachary Richard- Live at Montreal Jazz Festival- (with David Torkanowsky, keys, Yolanda Robinson, BGV, Paul Picard, percussion, Shane Theriot, guitars.)

    Zachary's music on Amazon Store

    Zachary's music on I- Tunes

    NPR interview with Zachary- click here

    Zachary's Poetry- click here

    Click here for A little guitar solo with Zack-


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    Episode 12 with Jon Cleary (New Orleans Solo artist, Bonnie Raitt, John Scofield, Taj Mahal etc..) Jun 13, 2017
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    Although he grew up in a small town just south of London, England, spend some time listening to Jon Cleary and you will swear he is the result of some sort of super-engineering experiment that sought to combine the absolute best of New Orleans/Funk/ Soul music into one performer- it’s in his DNA- from the way he plays to the subtle ways it permeates his native English accent. In addition to being a pianist and guitarist of impeccable taste and feel, he is also a gifted vocalist.

    Cleary, who has 8 solo records to date, recently won a Grammy last year for Go Go Juice, (a record I had the pleasure of being a part of). He was also a member of Bonnie Raitt’s band for 10 years - (she once referred to him the “9th Wonder of the World”. )

    He frequently plays at the world famous Maple Leaf Bar, a place that he has had a connection with since the early 80’s, as well as touring all over the world with his band. In this interview we discuss piano, guitar styles, his early years and passion finally making it to New Orleans, James Booker stories, Bonnie Raitt, what makes the New Orleans sound unique to other styles, and much much more. We do a fair bit of playing in this one too.

    This interview took place at Jon’s home/studio in New Orleans, LA on June 2nd, 2017.


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    Episode 11 with Will Lee (Late Night with David Letterman, Brecker Brothers, NYC A-team musician) Apr 29, 2017
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    My guest today is Mr. Will Lee. What can you say about Will that hasn’t already been said? He’s one of the most recorded bassists ever- He hit the ground running in NYC after landing the gig with Dreams at age 18 and hasn’t looked back appearing on well over 1000 records. He’s also a very talented singer and sang on many jingles that you probably didn’t even realize he was on.

    And even if you haven’t heard Will on records (which I’m sure is simply not possible) you’ve undoubtedly seen him in your living room night after night as a member of the "World's Most Dangerous Band" on Late Night David Letterman Show, a gig he held for a stunning 30 years. Will is a very positive and forward thinking person, his enthusiasm for music and his love of the Beatles is fully evident (as you’ll hear).

    In this interview I ask Will a lot of questions which he provides some great and oftentimes amusing answers to- The scene in NYC then and now, Steve Gadd, Hiram Bullock, Beatles, groove demonstrations, Jaco, Steely Dan and much, much more- oh and we do quite a bit of jamming at the end!! I've included a little bonus outtake at the very end where Will gives an example of how a top LA musician (David Garfield) was able to create his own scene and how any musician can do the same.

    Hope you enjoy!
    (This interview took place at Will's Manhattan studio, April 2017.)


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    Episode 10 with John Leventhal (Roseanne Cash, Shawn Colvin, Blind Boys of Alabama) Mar 20, 2017
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    My guest today is Mr. John Leventhal. John is a guitarist, songwriter and producer, having won 5 Grammys and 16 nominations for records he has produced. (I may be incorrect about this, it might actually be more…)

    As usual on the Riff Raff, I have “selfish” ulterior motives and tend to interview people who were influential to me as a guitarist/producer and John is at the top of that list. He was a big influence on the way I approach working with singers and in the studio. His uncoventional approachs to folk, country and rock/pop genres is hard to pin down and that’s exactly why I like his sound so much.

    John is married to Roseanne Cash, an amazing singer/songwriter and the daughter of country legend Johnny Cash. (For this interview I get to play one of Johnny Cash’s guitars!)

    In this interview we discuss guitars, producing, working with singers, songwriting, alternate tunings, his early career, “letting go” of preconceived ideas, the importance of good time, and much more. We also do quite a bit of playing and you get to hear John do his thing. There is some really great gems at the end so if you are a fan of John's we were really just getting going....

    This interview took place on a snowy day at John’s studio in New York City, March 2017.


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    Episode 9 with Warren DeMartini (RATT) Nov 16, 2016
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    Today’s guest is Mr. Warren DeMartini. Warren is best known as being the badass guitar gunslinger in one of the most prolific and massively successful of the 80’s bands- that would be Ratt.

    If you’ve been listening to Riff Raff for a while you’ll know that everyone on the show was an influence or even hero of mine and Warren is no certainly no exception- he had a huge impact on my own playing and style.

    I had been wanting to get Warren on the podcast for a while but I knew that he doesn’t like to do interviews but then after I told him about Riff Raff he said he would love to do it. Now the only problem was is that I was only in LA for 3 days and we kept running out of time. The day before I left LA Warren calls and says “hey I got an idea- what if I drive you around and you can interview me and I’ll take you to all the sites and places that made up the history of Ratt and the early years?”

    He was really into it and he said- “this is gonna be cool- the story of Round and Round riding around the various landmark sites- it’s never been done before!” (Hey this is an interview that Eddie Trunk would be proud of haha)

    So for sure this is a really different episode of Riff Raff- you’ll have to excuse some of the car noise and traffic sounds but for Ratt fans there is a goldmine of great stories in this episode and even if you aren’t a fan, you’ll still love the stories!

    Warren drives me to his old apartment known as “Ratt mansion West” where a few of the members of Ratt lived and many of the hits were written, the theatre where Ratt was signed, how Round and Round came about and we talk amps, guitars, a great story about Uli Roth, the early years of Ratt and the scene in LA in the 80’s, snakeskin guitars and so much more. (I’d like to thank my friend Jack Miele at Music Shed Studio for helping clean up the audio and reduce the car noise.)

    OK- I’m stepping out of the lobby of the Roosevelt Hotel on Hollywood Blvd and Warren has just pulled up in his car…I’m pushing record- step in with us, sit back and enjoy!


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    Episode 8 with Dweezil Zappa (solo artist ,Zappa plays Zappa) Oct 10, 2016
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    My guest today is Mr. Dweezil Zappa. I first met Dweezil a few years back at the Crown of the Continent Guitar Festival- an amazingly beautiful locale next to Glacier Lake in Bigfork, Montana where we were both teaching and performing. We hit it off and did a lot of jamming and trading ideas together in between our classes. Fast forward to this year and we’re at it again, teaching a weeklong master class together to a small group of students.

    I consider Dweezil to be a musician of the highest level who is constantly striving for perfection and originality. I’ve always thought he was a great guitarist- I had his solo record Confessions in the early 90’s and listened to it over and over. Frank Zappa was a big influence on me, and although he left a huge set of shoes to fill, I feel Dweezil has not only continued to carry on the legacy of his fathers music, but also leave his own footprint as one of the great guitar voices of our time. His many solo records and projects have proven this.

    Dweezil has probably done hundreds of interviews but this was probably a different kind of interview for him in that I just let him go- two guitar players who grew up sharing the same influences, just talking shop.

    It wasn’t my intention to talk so much about Eddie Van Halen, Frank Zappa stories, 80’s shred guitar, and not as much about Dweezil’s amazing band, his own projects and current tour- Cease and Desist tour- it’s just that well…you’ll hear!

    Great stories, growing up with the guitar legends in the 80’s,the challenges of playing the “Black Page” on guitar, some fun jamming at the end and you’ll hear about how I won a “Wiggy” amp in a guitar contest that Dweezil was a judge in 12 years ago before we met….( it was 12 years ago Dweezil- I checked!) funny- and an insight into what it was like growing up Zappa. We could have easily went another hour but just ran out of time! Enjoy!

    Interview took place in Big Fork, Montana- Sept 2016

    (Special thanks to Joe Guzzo for use of his quiet cabin to do this interview and Dennis Webster from Yamaha for use of the amps! Photos by Shiho Theriot)


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    Episode 7 with Kirk Covington (Joe Zawinul, Tribal Tech, Alan Holdsworth) Jul 29, 2016
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    My guest today is Mr. Kirk Covington.

    You know, out of all the musicians that I can think of, there aren’t many that are as freakishly talented as Kirk. I mean I know guys can play a little of this and that on drums and keys, guitar , that kind of thing. But Kirk plays at such a ridiculously high level on drums, keys and vocals that it’s kinda not fair!….. One of my favorite bands and a huge influence on my own playing was the band Tribal Tech with Scott Henderson on guitar. Kirk was a member of Tribal Tech for many years and manned the kit on many of their best records. He also worked with legends like Joe Zawinul, Alan Holdsworth, his own band Capt. Kirk, and was a member of the band Volto with Tool drummer Danny Carey.

    Kirk has a larger than life personality and he is always laughing and joking. I always enjoy playing and getting to hang with him. I thought he would be a no- brainer for a guest on Riff Raff and he proved me right. In this episode we talk about his North Texas State training, his influences, how Elvis helps him play a funky groove, Bobby Caldwell and Captain Beyond, odd meter grooves, Tribal Tech stories, some great Allan Holdsworth stories and much much more. I think you’ll love this one even if you aren’t a drummer!


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    Episode 6 with Leni Stern (Solo artist) Jul 06, 2016
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    My guest today is guitarist, vocalist and composer Leni Stern. Leni is someone I consider to be a good friend, as we’ve known each other for 16 years. She’s one of the most inspiring musicians I happen to know and - her contagious laugh and positive energy is something I never get tired of being around. Although she is married to guitarist Mike Stern (check out my 4th podcast)- Leni has her own distinctive voice on the guitar and an unmistakable touch and tone. She has won the Gibson Guitar Best Female jazz guitarist award 5 years straight and has continued to push forward with each of her records and bands.

    In the interview you’ll hear how she left a successful career in her native city of Munich, Germany to come to the US and slowly build her reputation as one of New York City's finest. Now, some 20 plus records later, she talks about her new record, (Darkar Suite) what it was like studying and being in a band with Bill Frisell, the difficulties and advantages of being a female guitarist in a male dominated world, what it’s like being married to one of the most famous jazz guitarists in the world- Mike Stern, how she composes melodies etc…. and we play some ngoni and guitar duos too… Click here for Leni's Website


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