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    The Restaurant Guys is one of the original food and wine podcasts, launched in 2005 by restaurateurs Mark Pascal and Francis Schott.

    With roots as a daily radio show, the podcast features in-depth conversations with chefs, bartenders, winemakers, authors, and hospitality professionals—offering the inside track on food, cocktails, wine, and restaurant culture.

    New episodes and vintage conversations because the best stories, like the best bottles, age well. Expect insightful, opinionated, and entertaining conversations about food, wine, and the finer things in life.

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    Heirloom Seeds, Local Farms & Better Food | Erica Renaud Aug 13, 2026
    Show notes

    This is a Vintage episode from 2006.

    Why This Episode Matters

    • Erica Renaud explains why heirloom, traditional and open-pollinated seeds matter to agricultural biodiversity.
    • Mark and Francis share how they worked directly with local farmers to plan crops, commit to purchases and even shoulder some of the farmer's risk.
    • The conversation connects sustainable agriculture with something more immediate to a restaurant: better-tasting food.
    • From backyard tomatoes to restaurant purchasing, they explore ways consumers, chefs and farmers can build a closer connection to where food comes from.


    The Conversation

    In 2006, organic farmer and researcher Erica Renaud of Seeds of Change joined Mark Pascal and Francis Schott for a conversation about something fundamental to the food on our plates: the seed.

    Erica explains the differences among heirloom, traditional and open-pollinated varieties and why preserving genetic diversity matters. The discussion moves from seed saving and organic agriculture to the relationship between farmers and chefs—and that's where Mark and Francis bring the conversation directly into their restaurants.
    They describe meeting with farmers before planting season to decide what to grow, committing to buy entire crops and sharing some of the agricultural risk. When hundreds of pounds of Jersey tomatoes arrived at once, the restaurants put them across the menu and preserved the harvest so they could serve local tomato sauce in the middle of winter.

    For Mark and Francis, the motivation wasn't simply philosophical: the food tasted better. Their argument is that the search for the most sustainably grown tomato and the search for the best-tasting tomato can lead you to the same farm.

    Erica also makes the case for growing something yourself—even in a container or small garden—as a way to understand food differently. From teaching children where food comes from to discovering how dramatically one tomato variety can taste from another, the conversation follows food from seed to farm to restaurant to plate.


    Guest Bio

    At the time of this 2006 conversation, Erica Renaud was an organic farmer and researcher and the Research and Farm Manager for Seeds of Change, working on organic seed production, agricultural biodiversity and programs connecting farmers with chefs and consumers.


    Timestamps

    00:00 Heirloom seeds, open pollination and preserving biodiversity
    04:00 Seed patents, hybrids and who controls the food supply
    07:00 Why chefs and farmers should plan together
    12:00 Sustainable food often tastes better and everyone should grow something
    18:30 Why organic food should start with organic seed
    24:30 How consumers can drive demand for better, more sustainable food

    Info

    Seeds of Change https://www.seedsofchange.com/

    The organization discussed in this 2006 interview has evolved considerably since the original broadcast. The Seeds of Change garden-seed brand is currently part of Green Garden Products and continues to offer seeds described by the company as 100% organic and 100% non-GMO.

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    Authentic Italian Food vs. the Algorithm | Vincenzo Prosperi Aug 11, 2026
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    Why This Episode Matters

    • Italian food isn’t one cuisine. Vincenzo Prosperi explains why Italy’s regional traditions matter—and what gets lost when everything is reduced to pizza, pasta and red sauce.
    • Authenticity and innovation can coexist. The question isn’t whether chefs should create new dishes, but whether classics should be changed beyond recognition and still carry the old name.
    • Social media is changing restaurants. Vincenzo, Mark and Francis dig into influencer culture, food designed for photographs and the pressure on restaurants to pay for attention.
    • Preserving tradition means supporting the people still cooking it. Vincenzo is shifting his platform toward regional chefs, family restaurants and food traditions that might otherwise disappear.

    Banter

    Mark Pascal and Francis Schott talk about why their restaurant events have never come from a marketing plan. They come from things they, their staff, and their guests can all get excited about.

    They look ahead to their annual Big Night dinner and revisit the early days of their table-to-farm dinners, including one memorable attempt that involved hauling restaurant tables and a wood-burning grill to a farm... just in time for the rain.

    The Conversation

    Vincenzo Prosperi grew up in Abruzzo surrounded by his grandparents, great-grandparents and the food traditions that came with them. After moving to Australia, he saw the distance between the Italian cooking he knew and much of the “Italian” food being served around the world. His wife suggested he turn that frustration—and his passion—into what became Vincenzo’s Plate.

    Vincenzo talks with Mark and Francis about the reaction videos that helped build his audience, from cream-laden carbonara to celebrity chefs taking liberties with Italian classics. But as reaction content became increasingly negative and crowded, he changed direction. Today, his focus is on teaching, ranking Italian products and using his audience to introduce viewers to regional Italian chefs and traditions.

    The conversation expands into a bigger question: What happens to traditional food in a culture built around clicks, trends and influencers?

    Vincenzo worries that regional Italian cooking is being replaced by a more standardized version of fine dining while small family restaurants struggle for attention. Mark and Francis see a similar problem in restaurants designed around what photographs well rather than what tastes good.

    They also tackle the line between preservation and creativity. Vincenzo isn't against innovation—quite the opposite. But before you riff on a cuisine, you should understand what you're riffing on. A new dish can be anything you want it to be. Carbonara, however, has a history.

    And yes, peas remain under suspicion.


    Guest Bio

    Vincenzo Prosperi is the creator of Vincenzo’s Plate, devoted to authentic Italian cooking and the traditions behind it. Born in Pescara in Italy’s Abruzzo region and now based in Australia, Vincenzo has built a worldwide audience through recipes, food education, product rankings and collaborations with chefs throughout Italy.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Great restaurant events are about creating memorable experiences
    09:30 Meet Vincenzo Prosperi of Vincenzo’s Plate
    11:30 Growing up with Italian food traditions in Abruzzo
    18:00 Celebrity chefs, reaction videos and crimes against carbonara
    25:00 Why Vincenzo moved beyond reaction content
    28:00 Trust, sponsorships and building an audience without selling out
    35:00 Is fine dining erasing Italy’s regional food traditions?
    38:00 Influencers, restaurant economics and food made for Instagram
    43:00 Innovation vs. tradition: when should a classic be left alone?
    47:00 Mark and Francis remember an old-school trattoria in Italy

    Info

    Vincenzo’s Plate https://www.vincenzosplate.com/

    Vincenzo’s Plate on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@vincenzosplate
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    Non-Alcoholic Pairings at Thomas Keller’s Restaurants | Paul Roberts Aug 06, 2026
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    This is a Vintage episode from 2006.

    Why This Episode Matters

    • Why guests who are not drinking deserve a beverage experience equal to the food, not simply still or sparkling water.
    • How sommeliers can build non-alcoholic pairings using the same principles as wine: weight, acidity, texture and flavor.
    • Why thoughtful glassware and presentation communicate that every guest matters.
    • How one memorable beverage program can turn the non-drinker into the person who chooses the restaurant for the entire table.

    The Conversation

    Mark Pascal and Francis Schott are joined by Master Sommelier Paul Roberts, then director of wine and beverages for Thomas Keller’s restaurants, including The French Laundry, Per Se and Bouchon.

    Paul explains how a lunch at The French Laundry changed his thinking about non-alcoholic beverages. When a knowledgeable 12-year-old diner was offered little beyond water, Paul improvised a beverage pairing and began developing a program for children and anyone who simply preferred not to drink alcohol.

    The conversation explores house-made tonic, teas, infusions, grape juices and less-sweet sodas. Paul explains why non-alcoholic pairings should be approached like wine pairings, matching the weight and flavors of a beverage to the dish. He also shares one of the program’s more unexpected combinations: artisanal root beer with foie gras.

    They discuss the importance of ingredients, glassware and presentation, along with the business case for taking non-drinkers seriously. A single guest who feels genuinely considered may be the person who brings the entire party back.

    It is a remarkably current conversation about hospitality, inclusion and the rise of sophisticated non-alcoholic drinking recorded years before the modern no- and low-alcohol movement took hold.

    Guest Bio

    Paul Roberts was the director of wine and beverages for Thomas Keller’s restaurant group, overseeing programs at The French Laundry, Per Se and Bouchon, as well as a team of 14 full-time sommeliers. A Master Sommelier, Paul became known not only for world-class wine service but also for pioneering thoughtful non-alcoholic beverage pairings.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Paul Roberts and the origins of the non-alcoholic pairing program
    07:35 House-made tonic and treating cocktails like serious cuisine
    10:20 Teas, infusions, grape juices and foie gras with root beer
    17:25 Why glassware matters for guests who are not drinking
    19:25 The non-drinker who may choose the restaurant for the whole table
    23:00 Dry sodas, quality over sweetness and becoming “the soda sommelier”
    27:00 Last recommendation for non-alc pairing with lobster

    Info

    Beverages and producers mentioned: Navarro Vineyards grape juice, Boylan’s, Sprecher root beer

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    Farm-to-Table Was Only the Beginning | Spike Gjerde Aug 04, 2026
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    Why This Episode Matters

    • What local sourcing looked like before restaurants had reliable farm-to-kitchen distribution.
    • Why supporting local agriculture is an economic commitment not merely a menu description.
    • How “farm-to-table” became vulnerable to greenwashing and what genuine sourcing requires.
    • Why whole-animal butchery, preservation and culinary craft are increasingly difficult to sustain under modern restaurant economics.
    • Why “sustainable seafood” may be too simple and how ocean warming, acidification, habitat loss shape the larger story of what reaches the plate.

    The Banter

    Mark Pascal and Francis Schott return from Tales of the Cocktail with lessons in hospitality...and staffing. They share Ti Martin’s story about transforming a frazzled guest’s evening with one perfectly timed gin and tonic, then recap what happened when their New Orleans beefsteak produced an unexpected third shift for the hosts. Thirty-four years into the restaurant business, apparently there are still new ways to discover that you need two more employees.

    The Conversation

    Baltimore chef and restaurateur Spike Gjerde joins The Restaurant Guys for a candid discussion about what it actually takes to build a regional food system.

    Spike, Mark and Francis compare the early days of sourcing local ingredients, when chefs drove to farmers markets or directly from farm to farm because restaurant distribution simply did not exist. Spike explains why Woodberry Kitchen pushed the idea much further, even excluding ingredients such as lemons so more of the restaurant’s purchasing dollars could remain with Mid-Atlantic growers.

    They explore large-scale preservation, farm-to-table greenwashing and the tension between environmental responsibility and economic survival. Spike also reflects on Parts & Labor, his restaurant and butcher-shop experiment designed around whole-animal butchery and the stubborn reality that nearly everyone still wanted rib eye and tenderloin.

    The conversation turns to the rising cost of skilled labor, the loss of culinary craft and the pressure pushing restaurants toward standardized, premade food. Spike explains how his newer restaurants broaden Woodberry’s original mission by applying local agricultural relationships to the cuisines of Provence, Spain and the Levant.

    Finally, they challenge the language of “sustainable seafood,” discuss the ecological importance of Chesapeake menhaden and revisit Shoofly, Spike’s premium diner concept that may simply have arrived before diners were ready for a $24 omelet.

    Guest Bio

    Spike Gjerde is a Baltimore chef and restaurateur best known for Woodberry Kitchen and his decades-long commitment to strengthening regional food systems. He received the 2015 James Beard Award for Best Chef: Mid-Atlantic.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Tales of the Cocktail, live shows and a lesson in hospitality
    07:40 Spike Gjerde and the early days of local sourcing
    14:25 Why local food became an economic mission
    20:05 Farm-to-table greenwashing and the future of regional food systems
    27:15 Whole-animal butchery and the Parts & Labor experiment
    31:10 Rising labor costs and the disappearance of culinary craft
    35:40 The Ecco Project: expanding the mission beyond farm-to-table
    40:10 Sustainable seafood—and a diner concept that may have arrived too early
    47:35 The diner, the record-store owner and a wild New Brunswick crime story

    Info

    Spike’s Places

    Woodberry Kitchen https://www.woodberrykitchen.com/

    Ecco Project https://www.eccoproject.com/

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    Can Wine Unlock Creativity? | Michael Gelb Jul 30, 2026
    Show notes

    This is a Vintage episode from 2010.


    Why This Episode Matters

    • Discover how wine can encourage creativity, conversation and more mindful experiences.
    • Learn why comparative tasting helps develop your palate faster.
    • Understand how fear of being wrong prevents people from describing what they taste.
    • Hear why making time for memorable experiences may change how we perceive our lives.

    The Conversation

    The Restaurant Guys, Mark Pascal and Francis Schott, welcome author and organizational consultant Michael Gelb to discuss Wine Drinking for Inspired Thinking: Uncork Your Creative Juices.

    Michael connects wine and creativity to the ancient Greek symposium, where philosophy, poetry and conversation flowed alongside the wine. He explains how thoughtful drinking can loosen inhibitions, encourage expression and make wine feel less intimidating.

    The conversation covers memorable food-and-wine pairings, Château d’Yquem and the value of tasting similar wines side by side. Michael and The Guys explore how comparison sharpens sensory memory, why beginners sometimes notice what experts miss and the difference between professional analysis and personal enjoyment.

    After the interview, Mark and Francis reflect on memory, routine and why meaningful experiences may make life feel fuller and time move a little more slowly.

    Guest Bio

    Michael J. Gelb is a bestselling author and organizational consultant known for How to Think Like Leonardo da Vinci. In Wine Drinking for Inspired Thinking, he uses comparative tasting, conversation and creative exercises to help people experience wine with greater curiosity and enjoyment.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Michael Gelb and Wine Drinking for Inspired Thinking
    04:45 Food-and-wine pairings to experience at least once
    08:15 Creating memorable tastings for friends
    10:00 Why side-by-side tasting improves sensory memory
    11:20 Fear of embarrassment and the adult learning block
    13:20 Advantages of beginners and professionals
    16:45 Knowing everything about wine—and missing its beauty
    20:45 Making room for joy in everyday life
    22:15 The advice from Francis’s father that may improve your life
    Info

    Michael’s book
    Wine Drinking for Inspired Thinking: Uncork Your Creative Juices

    Michael’s site https://michaelgelb.com/

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    The American Beefsteak: Politics and Excess | Sother Teague Jul 28, 2026
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    Recorded live at the House of Suze during Tales of the Cocktail in New Orleans 2026.

    Why This Episode Matters

    • Discover how the American beefsteak became a tool for political organizing in New York and New Jersey.
    • Learn the feast’s essential rules: endless meat, bread as a plate and no concern for remaining clean.
    • Hear how Prohibition and women’s suffrage changed public drinking—and the beefsteak itself.
    • Find out how New Jersey preserved the tradition after it faded elsewhere.

    The Conversation

    Mark Pascal, Francis Schott and Sother Teague take the stage together to explore one of America’s messiest, and most political, dining traditions.

    The American beefsteak began as a nineteenth-century feast where politicians served voters and ward leaders all the steak and beer they could handle. Matching aprons erased the appearance of social rank, and the room became a place to reward loyalty, recruit supporters and build political alliances.

    The panel lays out the beefsteak’s non-negotiables: slices of beef served continuously on pieces of bread, no forks, no knives and traditionally no napkins. Diners eat the meat, stack the bread and use their aprons to wipe their hands. As Sother puts it, the guiding principle was “opulence over elegance.”

    They trace the tradition through Tammany Hall, organized labor and the East Side–West Side beefsteak rivalry. They also examine how Prohibition and women’s suffrage helped transform the formerly all-male event into a more social and mixed-gender gathering.

    When beefsteaks began disappearing after World War II, New Jersey butcher Garrett “Hap” Nightingale revived them as fundraisers for fire departments, churches, and community organizations. The conversation also compares the beefsteak with Southern pig pickin’s, crab boils, clambakes and pancake breakfasts.

    Along the way, Sother recounts the six-plane journey that brought him to Tales, while Mark and Francis explain how they transported steaks, produce and Himalayan salt bricks from New Jersey to New Orleans.

    The evening’s menu includes brisket, roast beef, Wagyu, house-made mozzarella and steaks finished on 500-degree salt bricks. Steak sauce is permitted, although putting it on the Wagyu may cause Francis emotional distress.

    Guest Bio

    Sother Teague is a bartender, hospitality professional and drinks historian best known for Amor y Amargo and Overthrow Hospitality. He is also a co-host of The Speakeasy and Sauced podcasts.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Live from the House of Suze at Tales of the Cocktail
    02:15 What is an American beefsteak?
    05:00 Tammany Hall, political organizing and “opulence over elegance”
    10:00 Six planes, ten cooler bags and salt bricks on an airplane
    13:00 Excess, Prohibition and the end of the all-male beefsteak
    21:00 How New Jersey revived the tradition
    23:00 Pig pickings and other regional communal feasts
    25:00 Wagyu, salt bricks and the steak-sauce debate

    Info

    Sother Teague https://www.overthrowhospitality.com/team
    Podcasts: The Speakeasy, Sauced

    Recorded At
    House of Suze
    Tales of the Cocktail
    New Orleans, Louisiana

    Featured Partners
    Suze and BCI
    Old Forester
    Serene Craft Beer Distributors

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    How Prohibition Backfired on America | Daniel Okrent Jul 23, 2026
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    This is a Vintage episode from 2010.

    Why This Episode Matters

    • How a freedom-loving nation came to outlaw the manufacture, sale and transportation of alcohol through a constitutional amendment.
    • Why women’s suffrage, progressive reformers, wealthy industrialists and economic politics created unexpected alliances on both sides of Prohibition.
    • How Prohibition fueled corruption and organized crime while weakening Americans’ respect for the law.
    • Why speakeasies helped create nightclubs, cocktail parties and social drinking among men and women.

    The Banter

    Mark Pascal and Francis Schott debate a New York Times writer who confronted chef Marc Forgione after hearing him berate an employee during service. The Guys agree the chef was out of line, but walking into his kitchen to reprimand him was, too.

    The Conversation

    The Restaurant Guys are joined by author and historian Daniel Okrent to discuss Last Call: The Rise and Fall of Prohibition.

    Daniel explains how Prohibition grew from a surprisingly broad political coalition that included progressives, suffragists, religious reformers and working-class organizations. Meanwhile, some wealthy conservatives opposed it because they feared government interference—and wanted liquor taxes to replace income taxes.

    They explore the unintended consequences of America’s “noble experiment,” including widespread bribery, poisoned liquor, the creation of national organized-crime networks and a growing disregard for laws that much of the population refused to obey.

    Prohibition also transformed American social life. Speakeasies welcomed women into public drinking establishments, introduced table service and entertainment, and helped give rise to nightclubs, cocktail parties and the modern dinner party.

    Daniel also reveals his other claim to fame: inventing fantasy baseball—an achievement Mark considers nearly as important as documenting Prohibition.

    Guest Bio

    Daniel Okrent is an author, editor and historian whose books include Last Call: The Rise and Fall of Prohibition. A Pulitzer Prize finalist and former public editor of The New York Times, he is also credited with inventing Rotisserie League Baseball, the game that launched modern fantasy sports.


    Timestamps

    00:00 When a diner confronts a chef

    13:45 Daniel Okrent joins the show

    16:00 How Prohibition became law

    21:00 Women’s suffrage and the temperance movement

    24:00 America’s drinking culture before Prohibition

    28:40 Why Prohibition began to collapse

    31:20 Corruption and the rise of organized crime

    34:40 How speakeasies changed nightlife

    39:00 Prohibition’s lasting cultural impact

    Info

    Daniel’s book
    Author of Last Call: The Rise and Fall of Prohibition

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    Restaurant Trends That Don’t Add Up | Inside Track Jul 21, 2026
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    Why This Episode Matters

    • The Guys taste ʻŌkolehao, a nearly lost Hawaiian spirit made from kī root, and explore its unusual history and revival.
    • Why Michelin retired its Green Star—and why judging sustainability is far more complicated than judging what arrives at the table.
    • The economic problem facing bars devoted exclusively to non-alcoholic cocktails.
    • A simple way to uncover better bottles and better values when restaurant wine-list prices are climbing.

    The Banter

    Mark Pascal and Francis Schott welcome two of their favorite guests: each other.

    Longtime listener Kelvin sends the Guys bottle number 125 of 150 from an early release of Ola ʻŌkolehao. They taste the Hawaiian spirit, find notes reminiscent of Scotch and Irish whiskey and dig into its history from its roots in Native Hawaiian culture to its disappearance and modern revival.

    Naturally, a discussion of spirits aged while being agitated at sea gives Mark an opening Francis never sees coming.

    The Conversation

    The Guys begin with Michelin’s decision to retire the Green Star. Recognizing restaurants for responsible sourcing and sustainable practices may be admirable, but Francis and Mark question whether such broad claims can be verified with the same confidence as food, service and the guest experience. That leads to a larger debate about Michelin’s expanding reach, changing standards and whether professional restaurant critics still matter in the age of online reviews.

    Next, they consider the wave of mocktail-only bars and why so many have struggled to stay open. Both believe serious non-alcoholic drinks belong on every good cocktail list, but Mark questions whether a venue serving only zero-proof cocktails can compete economically with restaurants, traditional bars and coffee shops already serving the same audience.

    Finally, Francis shares a useful restaurant wine hack discovered in Aspen. When the bottle list starts at an uncomfortable price, look at the wines offered by the glass. Ask how many glasses the restaurant pours from a bottle and whether you can order a full bottle of one of those selections. You may find a more interesting wine at a substantially better price.

    Mark then reveals he has been using essentially the same strategy with pizza since the 1980s.

    Timestamps
    00:00 Tasting the revived Hawaiian spirit ʻŌkolehao
    05:35 The history, disappearance and return of ʻŌkolehao
    12:15 Why Michelin retired the Green Star
    16:25 Is Michelin diluting its restaurant standards?
    19:00 Can mocktail-only bars survive?
    26:20 Rising restaurant wine prices and the by-the-glass bottle hack
    31:20 Mark’s remarkably similar pizza hack

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    How Classic Cocktails Were Lost—and Found | Ted Haigh Jul 16, 2026
    Show notes

    This is a Vintage episode from 2006.

    Why This Episode Matters

    • How America’s cocktail golden age flourished from the Gilded Age through Prohibition and how it eventually gave way to highballs and vodka.
    • Why pre-Prohibition whiskey was stronger, more aromatic and dramatically different from much of what followed.
    • How cocktail historians reconstruct forgotten drinks using antique bar guides, vintage bottles and nearly vanished ingredients.
    • Why Ted Haigh believes cocktails should engage an adult palate rather than conceal alcohol beneath sweetness.

    Banter

    Mark Pascal and Francis Schott explore the emerging trend of beer cocktails, from shandies and Black Velvets to some considerably more questionable corporate creations.

    The Conversation

    Cocktail historian Ted Haigh, better known as Dr. Cocktail, traces the rise, decline and early revival of the American cocktail. He explains how elaborate Gilded Age drinks survived Prohibition, only to be displaced by blended whiskey, highballs and increasingly neutral spirits.

    Ted shares how he uncovers forgotten recipes in antique books and newspapers, then searches for the obscure bottles needed to recreate them. The conversation moves from bonded whiskey and Amer Picon to drinks that deserved to disappear, vodka’s reliance on marketing and the disputed 200th anniversary of the cocktail.

    Guest Bio

    Ted Haigh, widely known as Dr. Cocktail, is a cocktail historian, author and award-winning graphic designer. His research, writing and extensive collection of historic bar books, bottles and artifacts helped introduce a new generation to overlooked drinks from the pre-Prohibition and Prohibition eras. He was also one of the founders of the Museum of the American Cocktail.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Beer cocktails, shandies and pairing beer with food
    08:24 The golden age of American cocktails—and the rise of the highball
    12:19 Pre-Prohibition whiskey and the value of acquired tastes
    16:31 How forgotten cocktails are discovered and reconstructed
    20:05 Amer Picon, obscure ingredients and drinks best left behind
    25:20 The cocktail’s disputed anniversary, vodka and raw eggs

    Info

    • Ted’s book Vintage Spirits and Forgotten Cocktails: Prohibition Centennial Edition
    • Museum of the American Cocktail
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    Hayman’s Gin: Tradition and Revival | James Hayman Jul 14, 2026
    Show notes

    This was recorded on-location at Bar Convent Brooklyn 2026


    Why This Episode Matters

    • How five generations of the Hayman family helped shape London gin and why James Hayman sees himself as a guardian rather than an owner.
    • Why Old Tom gin is not simply London Dry with extra sugar, and how its robust botanical profile changes classic cocktails.
    • How authentic sloe gin is made with wild blackthorn fruit, months of infusion and considerably more patience than its neon-red reputation suggests.
    • Why rising costs may tempt spirits companies to compromise and why James believes tradition and quality are the family business’s best protection.

    Banter

    Mark Pascal and Francis Schott reflect on Bar Convent Brooklyn and Tales of the Cocktail as places where bartenders, producers and increasingly knowledgeable consumers come together to exchange ideas, discover new spirits and renew old friendships. They also observe that cocktail culture has spread far beyond major cities and debate whether anyone attending an afternoon spirits convention is realistically going to work afterward

    The Conversation

    Recorded at Bar Convent Brooklyn, Mark and Francis sit down with fifth-generation gin distiller James Hayman to explore more than 160 years of family history of Hayman’s Gin.

    James recalls growing up around the family distillery, where the aromas of botanicals made an early impression and visits to bottle shops became part of family vacations. He explains the responsibility of protecting recipes and methods developed generations earlier while still allowing the business to evolve.

    The conversation traces gin’s transformation from the rough, inconsistent spirit of eighteenth-century London to the more refined styles that emerged during the nineteenth century. James explains the origins of Old Tom gin, why Hayman’s helped revive it for modern bartenders.

    They then turn to sloe gin: wild blackthorn berries, high-proof gin, several months of extraction and the British tradition of carrying a flask to cold-weather sporting events. Francis contrasts real sloe gin with the syrupy versions that once appeared in drinks such as the Red Death and makes the case for restoring the good stuff to the modern cocktail bar.

    James also discusses Navy Strength gin, the wonderfully questionable gunpowder story behind its proof and the family’s determination to keep making gin in London without cheapening its process. The episode closes with a frozen Martinez so good that Mark and Francis briefly consider the practical limitations of employing a frozen bartender.

    Guest Bio

    James Hayman is a fifth-generation gin distiller and co-owner of Hayman’s Gin, which he runs with his sister, Miranda Hayman, and their father, Christopher. The family has distilled gin since 1863 and continues to produce its London Dry, Old Tom, Sloe and Royal Dock gins using longstanding family recipes and methods.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Bar Convent Brooklyn, Tales of the Cocktail and the value of cocktail gatherings
    07:22 James Hayman joins Mark and Francis at BCB
    09:00 Growing up inside a five-generation gin family
    13:00 How London gin evolved—and the origins of Old Tom
    17:42 Real sloe gin, the Blackthorn cocktail and the Red Death
    23:38 Why American and British gin habits are so different
    25:00 Protecting quality when costs rise
    27:43 The story behind Navy Strength gin
    30:10 The freezer Martinez and frozen-bartender logistics

    Info

    • Hayman’s Gin www.haymansgin.com/
    • Bar Convent Brooklyn: Event information www.barconventbrooklyn.com/


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