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186. The Secret Spy Network: Can Five Eyes Survive Trump? (Ep 4) Aug 19, 2026

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The Five Eyes is an intelligence alliance that has endured for decades. But can it survive Donald Trump in the White House?

Listen as David and Gordon are joined by Richard Kerbaj for the final instalment of their series exploring the tumultuous history of the Five Eyes intelligence sharing alliance.

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⁠⁠⁠The Secret History of the Five Eyes by Richard Kerbaj⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠The Defector by Richard Kerbaj⁠⁠⁠

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185. The Secret Spy Network: How Snowden Nearly Destroyed Everything (Ep 3) Aug 16, 2026

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The Five Eyes are watching the world. But what happens when one eye is bigger than the other? And what happens when new threats emerge?

Listen as David and Gordon are joined again by author, journalist and filmmaker Richard Kerbaj, to explore the history of the Five Eyes intelligence sharing alliance.

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⁠⁠The Defector by Richard Kerbaj⁠⁠

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184. The Secret Spy Network: Kim Philby Threatens the Alliance (Ep 2) Aug 12, 2026

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An intelligence alliance established to spy on the Soviets during the Cold War. But will it be able to hold together under crisis?

David and Gordon are once again joined by journalist, author and filmmaker Richard Kerbaj, to explore the history of the Five Eyes intelligence sharing alliance.

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⁠The Defector by Richard Kerbaj⁠

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183. The Secret Spy Network: How The US and UK Spy Together (Ep 1) Aug 09, 2026

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It is most powerful intelligence alliance the world has ever seen But what is the Five Eyes and how did it begin?

Listen as David and Gordon are joined by journalist, author and filmmaker Richard Kerbaj, to explore one of the world's most significant and longstanding intelligence sharing alliances.

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The Defector by Richard Kerbaj

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182. The Imitation Game: The Codebreakers Who Defeated Hitler (Ep 2) Aug 05, 2026

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Alan Turing is working frantically to break the German codes at Bletchley Park. But can the Brits and Americans really trust each other?

Listen as David and Gordon conclude their two-part exploration of the incredible work undertaken at the predecessor to GCHQ.

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181. The Imitation Game: How Alan Turing Broke Enigma (Ep 1) Aug 02, 2026

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A secret mission in the middle of a war to Bletchley Park. One that will lead to the closest intelligence alliance in history.

Listen as David and Gordon tell the secret history of how the codebreakers at Bletchley Park worked with their American allies to defeat Hitler.

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180. Have the US and Israel Always Spied on Each Other? (Ep 2) Jul 29, 2026

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How did Israel’s spy in America Jonathan Pollard wind up getting caught? And what does the sordid episode tell us about the nature of the spy relationship between America and Israel?

David and Gordon explore how an US-Israeli spy stole hundreds of classified documents in the 1980s, and what this story tells us about the contemporary espionage relationships between the US and Israel.

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179. Did Israel Spy on Trump’s Iran Negotiations? (Ep 1) Jul 26, 2026

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Do Israel and America spy on each other? And how do close allies navigate stealing each other’s secrets?

Listen as David and Gordon step inside the tricky intelligence sharing relationship between the US and Israel.

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178. The Plot to Destroy Russia’s Gas Empire (Ep 2) Jul 22, 2026

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How did a group of civilian divers carry out what’s been described as one of the greatest acts of sabotage of the 21st century? And have they finally been exposed?

Listen as David and Gordon unpack the investigation into who blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline in 2022 with Bojan Pancevski, Chief European Political Correspondent of the Wall Street Journal and author of the newly released book, The Nord Stream Conspiracy.

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177. Who Blew Up the Nord Stream Pipeline? (Ep 1) Jul 19, 2026

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Why did an undersea pipeline that sent Russian gas to Germany explode in 2022? And could a group of Ukrainian operatives really have been behind it?

David and Gordon are joined by Bojan Pancevski, Chief European Political Correspondent of the Wall Street Journal and author of the newly released book, The Nord Stream Conspiracy, to discuss who was really responsible for the explosion of the Nord Stream pipeline in 2022.

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