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88. China vs Google: When Beijing Took on Silicon Valley (Ep 1) Oct 05, 2025

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"Like many other well-known organisations, we face cyber attacks of varying degrees on a regular basis." This was the striking public statement from Google's chief legal officer in January 2010. What began as a major security incident - a "highly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporate infrastructure, originating from China" and resulting in the theft of intellectual property - quickly escalated into a much larger geopolitical crisis.

This episode is the origin story of state-sponsored cyber espionage. It's the moment Google was hacked by a foreign state, and for the first time, publicly pointed the finger at who they believed was responsible: China. The attack was a canary in the coal mine for the world of Chinese cyber attacks and espionage we know today.

Join Gordon and David as they tell the story of how an act of cyber espionage descended into a debate about the complex equations between money and freedom of speech for Western companies operating in China.

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87. Mossad Pager Attack: Crippling Hezbollah (Ep 2) Sep 30, 2025

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Hezbollah thought they’d found the perfect solution to Israeli surveillance: the pager. In the midst of their paranoia, they negotiated a cut-price deal for thousands of new devices, but what they received was a trap.

The mass explosions on September 17 2024, injured 3,000 people and killed dozens, including civilians and children. The victims - many of them part-time militia members or political operatives - were not just front-line fighters.

Listen as David and Gordon tell the astonishing and devastating story of how Israel achieved what it could not in 2006: the neutralisation of its most dangerous adversary on its northern border. This is the story of how an innovative, physical supply chain attack fundamentally changed the balance of power in the Middle East.

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86. Mossad Pager Attack: The Long War with Hezbollah (Ep 1) Sep 28, 2025

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"The smartphone is a lethal collaborator. " This was the stark warning from Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah in February 2024. In the wake of intense conflict with Israel, the group made a fateful decision to abandon high-tech communications. They knew that their phones could be used by the Israelis to pinpoint their location. The solution? Go analog. Go back to pagers.

This episode begins an explosive two-part series on a truly audacious operation conducted by Israel’s foreign intelligence agency, Mossad. Mossad didn't just infect Hezbollah's supply chain; they became the supply chain, creating a unique product to use against their enemy.

Join Gordon and David as they unravel the complex groundwork laid by Mossad to decapitate their Lebanese enemies. This is the story of the high-stakes push-pull of espionage, where technological decisions set the stage for one of the most remarkable, and deadly, covert operations in intelligence history.

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EXCLUSIVE: The Spy Who Smuggled Gordievsky Out of Russia Sep 25, 2025

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*Declassified Club exclusive: SUBSCRIBE to listen to the full interview* What does it take to smuggle the West’s most valuable Russian agent out of the Soviet Union, under the noses of the KGB? How do you lose a KGB surveillance team on the road from Moscow, while hiding a defector in the boot of your car? And how did the MI6 team manage to sneak Gordievsky past the Russian sniffer dogs on the Finnish border?

Listen as Raymond Asquith - the MI6 Officer who led Oleg Gordievsky’s dramatic escape from Moscow in 1985 - recounts the nerve-racking details of the operation, the split-second improvisations that kept it alive, and the extraordinary legacy of the man once called the West’s most important spy.

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85. The Man Who Saved The World: The Great Escape (Ep 6) Sep 23, 2025

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Oleg Gordievsky wants to leave Moscow, but how? How can a man under suspicion of being a traitor escape the watchful eye of the KGB? Do MI6 have a plan to rescue him? Or will the man who has leaked countless state secrets become the next victim of the USSR?

Listen as David and Gordon finish their series on Oleg Gordievsky by looking at his fateful showdown with the KGB.

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84. The Man Who Saved The World: A Friendship Shattered (Ep 5) Sep 21, 2025

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Just as Oleg Gordievsky was moments away from being the KGB’s most senior man in Britain, he is recalled to Moscow. Has his spying been revealed? What can MI6 do? And will he return to his homeland knowing he may never leave again?

Listen as David and Gordon continue their series on Oleg Gordievsky by looking at his return to Moscow and the fateful decision it forces him to make.

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83. The Man Who Saved The World: Countdown to Armageddon (Ep 4) Sep 16, 2025

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It’s 1983 and the world is on the brink of nuclear war. Operation Able Archer has ratcheted tensions right up, how is Oleg Gordievski going to prevent a nuclear apocalypse? Is this the greatest contribution of any spy to humanity? And what does it say about the enduring value of human intelligence?

Listen as David and Gordon continue their series on Oleg Gordievski by looking at his role in defusing the sky-high tensions of the 1980s.

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82. The Man Who Saved The World: Britain’s Best Ever Agent (Ep 3) Sep 14, 2025

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Oleg Gordievsky is now recruited as an agent for MI6 and he is providing intelligence of the highest order, but is there a chance he’ll be rumbled by the KGB? Who will keep him safe in London? And what does Oleg himself have to do to ensure his identity remains secret?

Listen as David and Gordon continue their series on Oleg Gordievsky by looking at his time in London, his crazy KGB colleagues, and the molehunt he conducts into the British security services.

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81. The Man Who Saved The World: Abandoning Communism (Ep 2) Sep 09, 2025

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How did Oleg Gordievsky get recruited to work for MI6? What effect did living in Copenhagen have on his political views? And how did Britain nearly blow the recruitment of one of the most consequential spies in history?

Listen as David and Gordon continue their series on Oleg Gordievsky by looking at how he became a double-agent, changing the course of his life and the Cold War.

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80. The Man Who Saved The World: Making of a Traitor (Ep 1) Sep 07, 2025

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What makes a spy betray the very system that raised him? How does a loyal KGB officer, born into the service, become Britain’s most valuable Cold War agent? And how did one man’s intelligence reports help stop the world from sliding into nuclear confrontation?

This is the story of Oleg Gordievsky — a man shaped by the terror of Stalin’s purges, the shadow of the Berlin Wall, and the crushing of the Prague Spring. He rose through the ranks of the KGB, but inside, he was already planning his greatest act of defiance: spying for MI6.

In this first episode of our latest series on Oleg Gordievsky, David and Gordon trace the making of a spy: from his early years in Moscow to his first steps into espionage abroad, and the moment he begins to dream of contact with MI6.

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