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    The Recipe with Kenji and Deb

    Hi, we’re Deb Perelman (Smitten Kitchen) and J. Kenji López-Alt (Serious Eats, The Food Lab, The Wok). We’re professional home cooks, which means we can – and will – make the same meal 57 times in a row on the quest for the perfect recipe. Is it crazy? For us, no, because we do this for a living. But for you? Yes, probably. Which is why you should listen to The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. You’ll hear us talk about what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we taste — so that you can be on your way to creating your own perfect recipe. Whether you’re cooking meatloaf, pancakes, or chicken soup in all its forms, we got you, and you’ve got this.

    The Recipe with Kenji and Deb is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX, a network of independent and listener-supported podcasts. Discover audio with vision at radiotopia.fm.

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    Copyright: © Deb Perelman & J. Kenji López-Alt

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    Latest Episodes:
    Crispy Chicken Cutlets Mar 03, 2025
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    Crispy chicken cutlets are endlessly adaptable to taste, so it’s no wonder they are a universal crowd pleaser. From Austrian schnitzel to Japanese katsu to Deb’s mother-in-law’s recipe that leaves out a classic ingredient, there are endless permutations of chicken, flour, egg, breadcrumbs + ??? to satisfy the pickiest eater (and most discerning home cook).

    Recipes Mentioned:

    • Tonkatsu or Chicken Katsu (Serious Eats)
    • Crispiest Chicken Cutlets (Smitten Kitchen)
    • 5-Ingredient Fried Chicken Sandwiches (Serious Eats)


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    Brownies (and something just as iconic, with Kelsey McKinney) Feb 17, 2025
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    Brownies are a diabolical(ly) good cross between cake and cookie. They taste sinfully rich and decadent, but they’re an angel in the kitchen (one bowl recipe alertl!) and they make your house smell like heaven. Plus, we hear Deb and Kenji’s recommendations for the best snacks for gossiping or watching reality TV.

    Recipes:

    • Glossy Fudge Brownies Recipe (Serious Eats)
    • Olive Oil Brownies (Smitten Kitchen)
    • My Favorite Brownies (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Best Cocoa Brownies (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Blackout Brownie Waffle Sundae (Smitten Kitchen Every Day)
    • Brownie Ice Cream Sandwiches (Smitten Kitchen)


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    Nachos (and something just as good, with our EP Audrey) Feb 03, 2025
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    Nachos were invented in a Mexican border town for a group of American ladies who lunch, and now they are considered food for the beer-drinking, football-cheering everyman. They can come piled high with twenty ingredients; a plate of nothing more than chips with melted Velveeta are also considered nachos. Whatever floats your tortilla, Kenji and Deb discuss ways to optimize every bite. Also, our Executive Producer Audrey Mardavich gets advice on how to slay the Super Bowl potluck.

    Recipes mentioned:

    • The Ultimate Fully Loaded Vegan Nachos (Serious Eats)
    • Corn and Black Bean Weeknight Nachos (Smitten Kitchen)


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    Meatballs (Italian-American) Jan 20, 2025
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    If humanity’s gotten you down lately, just keep in mind that our species can’t be that bad… we did invent the meatball after all. This ingenious invention stretches an expensive ingredient by mixing it with pantry staples into a dish that can feed many more people than on its own, while being truly delicious in its own right. Think about it: when meatballs are what’s for dinner, or you see meatballs on the menu at a restaurant, don’t you automatically think, ooh meatballs? It’s practically a reflex by this point of human evolution, someone really ought to study this.

    Recipes mentioned:

    • Everyday Meatballs (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Perfect Meatballs & Spaghetti (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Tender and Juicy Slow-Cooker Meatballs Recipe (Serious Eats)
    • “I wanted meatballs so I made meatballs” (Kenji’s Instagram)
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    Onion Soup Jan 06, 2025
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    Quiet luxury has been all the rage the past few years, but our girl Onion Soup has been out here epitomizing that s**t for literally hundreds of years. A bag of onions, some butter to sauté it in, beef broth are really all you need; throw in some stale bread and grated cheese, and you’ve got a million-dollar taste for ten dollars and change. (AND it doesn’t take as long as you think. Ask Kenji and Deb.)

    Recipes mentioned:

    • Essential French Onion Soup (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Short Rib Onion Soup (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Pressure Cooker French Onion Soup Recipe (Serious Eats)
    • French Melt (Grilled Cheese With Caramelized Onion and Comté) Recipe (Serious Eats)
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    The Science of Stir-Fry with J. Kenji López-Alt [Milk Street Radio] Dec 30, 2024
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    We are taking a break this week. Please enjoy this classic interview from our friends at Milk Street Radio.

    For more information, visit Milk Street Radio's homepage, and follow Milk Street Radio on Apple Podcasts.

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    Bacon Egg & Cheese Dec 16, 2024
    Show notes

    There comes a point in every New Yorker’s life when they venture outside city limits and learn, to their horror, 24-hour access to breakfast sandwiches via bodegas spaced two blocks apart is not the norm in the rest of the world. When Deb and Kenji start breaking down each component, you will realize that it takes a lot of skill and discernment to a) choose the right ingredients b) prepare them all to perfection at the exact same time. You will never take the humble BEC for granted again.

    Recipes mentioned:

    • Bodega-Style Egg and Cheese Sandwich (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Fried Egg Sandwich with Bacon and Blue Cheese (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Better-Than-McDonald's Breakfast Sandwiches (And More Work, Too!) (Kenji’s Cooking Show)

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    Chicken Soup Dec 02, 2024
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    Chicken soup is the universal comfort food, but there are as many versions of chicken soup as there are planets in the universe. Depending on where and how you grew up, versions as varied as “Jewish penicillin”, phở gà, stracciatella, Campbell’s condensed all mean home to someone.

    Recipes mentioned:

    • Chicken Noodle Soup (Smitten Kitchen)
    • My Ultimate Chicken Noodle Soup (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Chicken Soup: A Poem (Serious Eats)
    • How to Make Chicken Noodle Soup (Kenji’s Cooking Show)

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    A Smidge of Smitten Kitchen Keepers Nov 25, 2024
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    Congratulations are in order for Deb, who released the audiobook of Smitten Kitchen Keepersearlier this month. We are proud to share with you a little excerpt.

    Back in 2006, when she was just starting her food journey, she encountered a lot of dud recipes on the internet. (Haven’t we all?) This book is a collection of the ones you’ll want to return to over and over again, aka the keepers.

    You can purchase a hardcover version at our page on bookshop.org, and a portion of the sale will go towards supporting our network.

    The Radiotopia fundraiser is happening now! Donate today.

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    Apple Pie Nov 18, 2024
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    Things we learn in this episode: Kenji has a not-so-secret secret ingredient for can’t-miss pie crust, Deb is not allowed at Thanksgiving without her pie, the birthplace of Kenji’s love of junk food, the ideal baking apple, why American apple pie reigns supreme.

    Recipes mentioned:

    • Apple Pie (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Even More Perfect Apple Pie (Smitten Kitchen)
    • Gooey Apple Pie (Serious Eats)
    • Perfect Apple Pie (Serious Eats)

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