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    The State of Recycling with Eureka Recycling's Kate Davenport Jan 16, 2024
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    Discover the transformative power of recycling and how it intertwines with community economics in our latest Public Works Nerds podcast episode. I, Marc Culver, am joined by the insightful Kate Davenport, co-President of Eureka Recycling, who not only shares her personal journey from climate activism to leading a nonprofit recycling enterprise but also sheds light on the game-changing concept of revenue sharing in recycling contracts. Together, we examine the fluctuating tides of commodity prices and the effect they have on the cost of recycling services, giving you a behind-the-scenes look at how to navigate these challenges and turn sustainability commitments into financial wins for communities.
    As we discuss the rising tide of extended producer responsibility (EPR) legislation, you'll grasp the profound effects of mandating brands to invest in recycling infrastructure and the push for regulations that demand recycled content in consumer packaging. You'll be swept up in the conversation on the significant role consumer choice plays in driving the demand for sustainable packaging, and the intriguing potential of long-term supply agreements to counterbalance the competition from virgin material manufacturers. Witness the innovative leaps, such as Sprite's move to clear plastic bottles, and the hurdles like non-recyclable packaging that shape the future of the recycling landscape.
    Wrapping up our insightful dialogue, Kate and I turn our gaze towards the horizon of recycling and sustainability. We spotlight the essential role mission-driven recyclers like Eureka play in promoting environmental and public good, and how crucial collaboration between municipalities and businesses is to enhance recycling, reuse, and ensure a more sustainable future for all. Tune in to be part of a movement that's redefining our relationship with waste and crafting a greener tomorrow.
    Since we recorded this episode, Kate has transitioned into a new role at Eureka as a Strategic Advisor.
    https://eurekarecycling.org/


    Challenges and Solutions for Water Service Line Inventory with Chelsea Alger and Dave Malm Jan 02, 2024
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    Unlock the secrets of how cities are combatting the pernicious issue of lead in our drinking water, as Chelsea Alger and Dave Malm from Bolton & Menk join us to dissect the monumental task of lead service line replacement. With the Flint water crisis still fresh in our memories, we explore the complexities of updating water service inventories, the power of GIS technology in this process, and the urgency of securing public funds for these life-essential projects. Chelsea and Dave bring a treasure trove of knowledge, providing an insider's look into the reality of preparing for regulatory deadlines and the scarcity of qualified personnel to undertake such a significant endeavor.
    Listen in and learn about available funding and tools for inventory compliance, as well as where we stand in the inventory process. We also talk about the proposed rule change to require replacement of lead service lines within 10 years.
    Show Notes:
    Lead Service Line Presentation at MN APWA Fall Conference – David Malm and Chelsea Alger, Bolton & Menk, Inc.
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Luu_RfF-plgcQwpgYO-M6gpKxjY520Zf/view?usp=sharing

    Timeline of Flint, MI water crisis
    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/20/465545378/lead-laced-water-in-flint-a-step-by-step-look-at-the-makings-of-a-crisis

    EPA Lead and Copper Rule Revisions (LCRR) – Final Rule Effective 6/17/2021 – Rule making docket link
    https://www.regulations.gov/docket/EPA-HQ-OW-2017-0300/unified-agenda

    EPA
    https://www.epa.gov/ground-water-and-drinking-water/revised-lead-and-copper-rule

    Minnesota EPA
    https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/water/rules/servlineinventory.html

    Iowa

    https://www.iowadnr.gov/Environmental-Protection/Water-Quality/Drinking-Water-Compliance/Lead-Service-Line-Inventories

    North Carolina
    Lead Service Line Inventory | NC DEQ

    South Carolina
    Revised Lead and Copper Rule | US EPA

    North Dakota
    Lead & Copper Rule Revisions (LCRR) - North Dakota Department of Environmental Quality (nd.gov)

    Wisconsin
    Lead Service Line (LSL) Replacements | | Wisconsin DNR

    Arizona
    Lead and Copper Rule | Drinking Water Compliance Assistance | ADEQ (azdeq.gov)

    Colorado
    Drinking water Lead and Copper Rule & Revisions | Department of Public Health & Environment (colorado.gov)

    Missouri

    Lead Service Line Inventory | Missouri Department of Natural Resources (mo.gov)

    South Dakota

    SD Water Pipes | Lead Service Line Inventory | South Dakota

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    Season 1 Recap with Mark Ray Oct 03, 2023
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    It's our 20th episode! Which is milestone in and of itself. Considering 90% of podcasts don't make it past 3 episodes, we're in pretty good company. I am joined by our first episode guest, Mark Ray, Public Works Director and City Engineer for the City of Crystal, MN. Mark, who is one of the most positive people I know, helps me review the season and highlight several episodes.
    I am very thankful for the loyal following we have developed (all, about 70 of you?) and everyone else who has listened in and given us a shot. Thank you to everyone who is listening. Whether that's one episode or 20!
    We are going to take a little break and as we gear up for the next season - whatever we decide that's going to be. We hope to be dropping episodes again in November. In the meantime, go back and check out the episodes you may have missed and continue to help us spread the word!
    Check out the links to our website and our YouTube page below.
    Show Notes:
    https://thepublicworksnerds.com/
    https://www.youtube.com/@ThePublicWorksNerds


    Solid Waste: Organized Collection, Recycling and Organics with Rachel Lindholm Sep 26, 2023
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    This week we dive into the intricate world of waste management with Rachel Lindholm, the Sustainability Specialist from the City of Richfield, Minnesota. In this episode we talk about how Richfield implemented organized collection, managed recycling services and started both a drop off and curb side organics collection system. Listen in as we nerd out about garbage!
    Show Notes:
    Richfield, MN Organics Recycling Information
    https://www.richfieldmn.gov/residents/garbage_and_recycling/organics_recycling.php
    MN PCA Organized Collection Process Flow Chart and Information
    https://www.pca.state.mn.us/sites/default/files/w-sw1-16.pdf
    Eureka Recycling MRF Video
    https://eurekarecycling.org/recycling-services/our-recycling-facility/


    A Conversation with the MN Chapter of APWA: Events, Committees, Strategic Plans, and Professional Development Sep 19, 2023
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    Join us and we talk with the Officers of the Minnesota Chapter of APWA. We talk about the history of the chapter, the committees, conferences, and their strategic plan. This is a lively and fun discussion with some very dedicated and devoted public works nerds!
    Our distinguished guests - President Monica Heil, Vice President Jupe Hale, Secretary/Treasurer Mitch Hoeft, Past President Nick Egger, and Chapter Delegate Chris Petree.
    Show notes:
    https://www.apwa-mn.org/
    APWA MN Strategic Plan
    http://www.apwa-mn.org/userfiles/ckfiles/files/APWA-MN%20Strategic%20Plan%20Infographic_2022-23.pdf


    GIS and GeoAI in the world of Public Works with Adam Carnow and John Shain Sep 12, 2023
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    In our 17th episode we talk to two GIS Nerds, Adam Carnow from ESRI and John Shain from Bolton & Menk. In the spirit of the AI movement, which we talk about in this episode, specifically GeoAI, I'm going to let the AI generated episode description say the rest - I usually consider this too wordy to use for the actual episode descriptions and end up writing a more succinct version, but we're going to let you see what the AI machine generated for this episode. Enjoy!
    From AI:
    Prepare for a riveting journey through the world of GIS as we sit down with industry heavyweights, Adam Carnow from Esri and John Shain from Bolton & Menk. With over five decades of combined experience, these mavens of geospatial analysis provide an illuminating discussion on the disruptive influence of AI in their domain. Discover how AI and GIS are redefining public works, from managing sign installations to tracking homelessness, and explore the far-reaching implications of these advancements for the next 25 years.
    Unearth the advantages of cloud-based GIS solutions as Adam and John delve into Esri's innovative solutions developed in collaboration with agencies. Learn about the remarkable ease-of-use of these tools, their plug-and-play features, and the limitless possibilities customization offers. Understand the crucial role of user feedback in making these solutions more robust and efficient. Also, unveil the profound impact of AI applications in GIS, as we dig into machine learning and deep learning models and their impact in public works.
    The latter part of our conversation takes you through the fascinating world of real-time data and predictive modeling in disaster preparedness. Take a peek into successful AI implementations like Charlotte, North Carolina Water Department's innovative use of cameras for locating water meters. We also reflect on the evolution of Public Works over the past five decades, acknowledging Esri's instrumental role in propelling AI technology forward. This episode promises to be a captivating discussion on GIS, AI, and their transformative impact on public works. Don't miss out!
    Show notes:
    I wanted to highlight something that Adam said during the podcast because it highlights GIS's prevalence in Public Works, and government operations as a whole:
    "GIS is a mission-critical enterprise business system that supports the full range of public works activities."
    Six Focus Areas:
    · Operations & Maintenance
    · Streets, Roads, & Bridges
    · Capital Project Design & Engineering
    · Field & Fleet Management
    · Public Grounds & Facilities
    · Emergency Response
    Additional links:
    APWA Reporter – AI: Friend or Foe? https://apwa.partica.online/reporter/july-2023/marketplace/ai-friend-or-foe
    APWA NC Newsletter – Why You Need to Know About GeoAI for Public Works
    https://northcarolina.apwa.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/41/2023/06/APWA-Newsletter-2023-June_6-15-23.pdf
    NACo Blog: Everything You Need to Know About Artificial Intelligence & GIS
    https://www.naco.org/blog/everything-you-need-know-about-artificial-intelligence-and-gis
    County Innovates Using GeoAI to Inventory ADA Curb Ramps and Saving Significant Time and Money
    https://www.esri.com/en-us/lg/industry/public-works/stories/county-innovates-using-geoai-to-inventory-ada-curb-ramps-saving-significant-time-money


    The City Engineers Association of Minnesota and how it helps distribute MN's gas tax with Deb Heiser Sep 05, 2023
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    In this episode Deb Heiser and I nerd out about the City Engineers Association of Minnesota, a unique organization of municipal engineers. We talk about CEAM's mission, committees and purpose. We also dive into what role CEAM plays in the distribution of Minnesota's gas tax.
    We would love to hear from others about how your state's gas tax is distributed to various agencies within the state. And if there are other unique organization's in your state, let us know! Comment on our website, on YouTube, LinkedIn or social media. Let's get a good discussion going!
    Show Notes:
    CEAM Website
    www.ceam.org
    Minnesota Highway User Tax Distribution Fund (HUTDF) Summary
    https://cms4files.revize.com/dodgecountymn/Highway/stateAidBrochure_2023.pdf


    Implementing Adaptive Level Control Systems for Stormwater Ponds with Ross Bintner Aug 29, 2023
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    Meet Ross Bittner, Engineering Services Manager from Edina, Minnesota, who has an extraordinary passion for water resources and a knack for innovation. Ross and I nerd out in this episode about a new Adaptive Level Control System that the City of Edina is using to create additional storage in a stormwater pond in advance of rain events. Listen in as we discuss the details of this system and Edina's program to create flooding resiliency in their community.
    We also talk a bit about how Edina is working to electrify their fleet.
    I'm thrilled to have this true Public Works Nerd as my guest for our 15th episode. Enjoy!
    Show notes:
    Edina Flood Resources:
    https://www.edinamn.gov/371/Flooding-and-Drainage
    What is my flood risk interactive map: https://edinagis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=3341ff292cdc423cb52b356dc54e7582
    Flood Risk Reduction Strategy: https://www.edinamn.gov/DocumentCenter/View/9367/Flood-Risk-Reduction-Strategy_final?bidId=#:~:text=The%20City%20of%20Edina's%20strategy,people%20that%20characterize%20the%20City.
    City of Edina water resource chapter of comprehensive plan https://www.edinamn.gov/DocumentCenter/View/8104/07-Water-Chapter-PDF
    Morningside flood infrastructure project page: https://www.bettertogetheredina.org/morningside


    How To Handle A Public Works Crisis With Nick Egger Aug 22, 2023
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    This week we are joined by Nick Egger, Public Works Director for the City of Rosemount, MN. Nick steps back to his time with the City of Hastings, MN and the management of a water contamination event in 2018. Nick talks about how they discovered the contamination, lessons learned about communication, and working with the state Department of Health. We also talk about how the water was treated initially and long term.
    We then shift gears to his time at the City of Rosemount where he now gets to help manage the construction of a new Public Works and Police facility and Campus.
    Finally, we talk about Nick's time as the President of the Minnesota Chapter of the APWA and how important professional societies are to our industry.
    Join us for a fun conversation with a proven leader in the Public Works industry.
    Show Notes:
    Hastings Water Contamination Event:
    News Report:
    https://www.kare11.com/article/news/city-of-hastings-confirms-ecoli-in-parts-of-water-system/89-597279358

    Star Tribune Article:
    https://www.startribune.com/hastings-decides-to-permanently-chlorinate-city-s-water-supply-after-e-coli-contamination-last-fall/510947952/

    Minnesota Drinking Water Supply Report
    https://www.health.state.mn.us/news/pressrel/2023/water050823.html

    Rosemount Public Works and Police Dual Campus
    https://www.rosemountmn.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=507
    Rosemount's UMore Park
    https://www.rosemountmn.gov/188/UMore-Development
    https://psre.umn.edu/Real-Estate/UMore-Park/About-UMore-Park


    Exploring Pipe Condition Assessment and Trenchless Technologies with Paul Pasko Aug 15, 2023
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    In this episode Marc and guest co-host Deb Heiser talk to Paul Pasko from Electro Scan, Inc. Paul talks about using new technologies to assess the condition of water and sewer pipes. We also talk about using trenchless techniques to rehabilitate pipes and how the future of pipe replacement will be finding small segments to replace/rehabilitate versus replacing the entire length of the pipe.
    This is an entertaining episode where Paul shares several stories of his experiences and travels around the world.
    Show notes:
    https://www.electroscan.com/
    Products referenced:
    Swordfish Lead and Leak Detection
    https://www.electroscan.com/products/swordfish/
    ES-620 Probe
    https://www.electroscan.com/products/es-620/
    Pica Pipe Assessment Tools
    https://www.picacorp.com/Technology/Inspection-Technology


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