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    The Psychedelic Podcast

    The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.

    From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.

    Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.

    Whether you’re just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you’ll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.

    Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.

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    Christi Myers - Ketamine Consciousness: Unlocking the Observer Within Oct 07, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Christi Myers, founder and CEO of Flow Integrative.

    Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-270-christi-myers/?ref=278

    Christi shares her journey from emergency medicine to pioneering ketamine-assisted therapy protocols. She discusses the science behind ketamine's effects on the brain, her work developing standards for ketamine therapy with Dr. Bronner's, and her vision for expanding access to this transformative treatment.

    Christi offers insights on responsible implementation of ketamine therapy and how it can be integrated with other healing modalities.

    Christi Myers, the visionary Founder and CEO of Flow Integrative, has charted an inspiring path of transformation. With nearly two decades of experience as a Paramedic, she has made significant contributions to renowned organizations including the Department of Defense, American Medical Response, Air Methods, San Bernardino County Fire and Sheriff Department, and the Department of Justice.

    Motivated by her firsthand experience with the mental health challenges that often plague first responders, and her own journey through PTSD, Myers founded Flow Integrative in 2020. The organization's mission is to destigmatize and expand access to psychedelic therapies, offering tools for growth, symptom relief, and holistic well-being, with a particular focus on frontline workers dealing with complex trauma.

    Highlights:

    • Christi's background in emergency medicine and as an educator
    • How ketamine works in the brain and impacts the default mode network
    • Developing ketamine therapy protocols for Dr. Bronner's employees
    • Combining ketamine with other healing modalities like PEMF and red light therapy
    • Safety considerations and contraindications for ketamine therapy
    • Christi's vision for empowering more practitioners to offer ketamine therapy

    Episode Sponsor:

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    Joshua Kappel - Psilocybin Policies: Crafting Colorado's Psychedelic Framework Sep 30, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Joshua Kappel, a founding partner of Vicente LLP and co-author of Colorado's Proposition 122, the Natural Medicine Health Act.

    Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-269-joshua-kappel-esq/?ref=278

    Joshua shares his journey from cannabis law to psychedelic policy reform, detailing the groundbreaking aspects of Colorado's legislation.

    He discusses the nuances of becoming a licensed psychedelic facilitator, regulations for healing centers, and the state's approach to manufacturing and cultivation.

    Joshua also explores the broader landscape of psychedelic policy reform across the United States, offering insights into potential future developments and the challenges faced by the emerging industry.

    Joshua Kappel is a founding partner of Vicente LLP with a passion for helping entrepreneurs and visionaries build human-centric and regenerative companies in the cannabis and psychedelic industries. Joshua co-authored Colorado's Proposition 122, the Natural Medicine Health Act, and served as chair of the campaign committee for Natural Medicine Colorado. He helped draft Colorado's Amendment 64, the first state measure to legalize cannabis for all adults. Joshua is a founding board member of the Microdosing Collective and serves as a founding member of the Psychedelic Bar Association. He is recognized by his peers in Best Lawyers in America for his work in cannabis law and was repeatedly named one of "Denver's Top Lawyers" by 5280 Magazine.

    Highlights:

    • Joshua's background in cannabis law and transition to psychedelic policy
    • Key components of Colorado's Natural Medicine Health Act
    • Details on becoming a licensed psychedelic facilitator in Colorado
    • Regulations for psychedelic healing centers and service locations
    • Manufacturing and cultivation licenses for psychedelic products
    • Outlook on psychedelic policy reform in other states

    Links:

    • Vicente LLP
    • Microdosing Collective

    Episode Sponsors:

    • KA! Empathogenics Kanna Supplements. Get 10% off with code THIRDWAVE at checkout

    Chris Villar - Practitioner Spotlight: Exited Founder to Executive Coach Sep 27, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Chris Villar, a successful entrepreneur turned executive coach.

    Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-268-chris-villar/?ref=278

    Chris shares his journey from Goldman Sachs to founding Frontpoint Security, a company he grew to $125 million in revenue before selling in 2020. He discusses his transition into psychedelic-assisted coaching, exploring how these experiences have shaped his approach to personal growth and professional development. Chris offers valuable insights on balancing high achievement with mental wellbeing, the importance of emotional processing, and how psychedelics can be integrated into a holistic approach to peak performance and self-discovery.

    Chris Villar studied finance & accounting at Georgetown University and began his career at Goldman Sachs, where he led a $500 million investment portfolio in the home security industry. In 2007, he left Goldman and founded Frontpoint Security, an early disruptor for self-installed alarm systems and smart home technology.

    Chris served as CEO from inception to over $125-million in revenue as the company grew to nearly 800 employees and received frequent recognition for both customer and employee satisfaction. After selling the company in 2020, Chris founded VILLAR Coaching, a boutique coaching practice focused on helping founders (and other high achievers) scale their companies while cultivating skills in peak performance and fundamental wellbeing.

    Chris has done extensive work to overcome a lifetime of stress, anxiety, and burnout and to detach from the lifelong grip of achievement; and now enjoys helping others do the same. He lives in Washington, DC with his husband and their 10-year old beagle and enjoys the outdoors, hiking, and traveling.

    Highlights:

    • Chris's journey from Goldman Sachs to founding Frontpoint Security
    • Key lessons learned as a founder and entrepreneur
    • Chris's introduction to psychedelics and their impact on his life
    • The role of psychedelics in emotional processing and creativity
    • Insights from "The Path of Least Resistance" by Robert Fritz
    • Chris's unique perspective as an executive coach with founder experience

    Alli Schaper - Microdosing for the Masses: Championing Legal Access & Mental Wellness Sep 23, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Alli Schaper, CEO and Co-Founder of SuperMush & The Microdosing Collective.

    Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-267-alli-schaper/?ref=278

    Alli shares her journey from corporate America to becoming a leader in the functional and psychedelic mushroom space. They discuss the importance of microdosing, the challenges of psychedelic policy reform, and the mission of the Microdosing Collective. Alli emphasizes the potential of microdosing to enhance mental health, increase empathy, and create positive societal change. The conversation covers personal experiences, the need for consumer protection in the underground market, and the vision for making microdosing legally accessible.

    Alli Schaper is the CEO and co-founder of SuperMush, an LA-based mental wellness lifestyle brand. She is a speaker, entrepreneur, podcast host, educator, and community builder. She has been featured in Forbes 30 under 30, National Geographic, YPO, Summit Series, Well+Good, Rolling Stone, Goop, Bloomberg and more.

    Alli is a sought after thought leader on topics like mental health, functional mushrooms, microdosing, psychedelic policy, and building a better relationship with death.

    Alli's mission is to help make the world more colorful and fun and help wake people up by getting their brains and bodies off pharmaceuticals, and back into balance through the power of fungi. SuperMush has been called "The Redbull of Mushrooms", and in just 2 years has grown into a multi-million dollar empire, built a viral 400k following across social channels, hosted 75+ IRL events across the U.S., and is backed by founders of Thrive Market, Netflix, Hu, Zumba, and more.

    She is also the host of SuperMush's popular mental health podcast, Into The Multiverse. Guests are globally-acclaimed artists, creatives, doctors, therapists, and leaders across wellness, mental health, consciousness, and psychedelics (previous guests: Rick Doblin, Gabby Reece, Charlotte McKinney, Devon Levesque, Noah Cyrus).

    Her passion for public policy and bringing microdosing psychedelics mainstream led her to co-found Microdosing Collective, the first nonprofit in the US focused on legal advocacy for microdosing.

    Highlights:

    • Mushrooms and death
    • Alli's journey from corporate America to psychedelic advocacy
    • SuperMush and Into the Multiverse
    • Microdosing Collective
    • Challenges and experiences in psychedelic policy reform
    • Vision for legal microdosing access and its potential societal impact
    • The power of personal stories in advancing psychedelic policy
    • How to get involved and support the Microdosing Collective

    Episode Sponsors:

    • KA! Empathogenics Kanna Supplements. Get 10% off with code THIRDWAVE at checkout

    Dr. Rachelle C. Sampson - Breaking Patterns, Building Vision: Psychedelics in Executive Coaching Sep 16, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Rachelle Sampson, an executive coach, professor of business at the University of Maryland, and board member at the USONA Institute.

    Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-266-rachelle-sampson-llb-phd/?ref=278

    Dr. Sampson shares insights from the Connected Leadership Project, a groundbreaking study exploring how psychedelic experiences with psilocybin impact decision-making and leadership in business executives.

    Dr. Rachelle Sampson is a distinguished researcher and executive coach. She is Associate Professor of Public Policy at the Robert H. Smith School of Business, University of Maryland, and Senior Research Fellow at the ESG Institute, Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Sampson also serves on the Board of Directors for the Usona Institute, a non-profit conducting clinical trials for psilocybin and 5-MEO-DMT.

    Dr. Sampson co-leads a pioneering research project on the impact of psychedelics on leadership creativity and decision-making, driven by her curiosity about the role of business organizations in catalyzing systems change.

    Highlights:

    • Introduction to Dr. Rachelle Sampson and her background in business research and leadership
    • Initial interest in psychedelics' impact on leaders
    • The genesis of the Connected Leadership Project
    • Key findings from the pilot study with business leaders
    • Observations on transformative experiences and their impact on leadership
    • On the longevity of psychedelic effects in leadership contexts
    • Exploration of narcissism concerns in leadership and psychedelics
    • The potential for psychedelics to catalyze systems change

    Episode Links:

    • Connected Leadership Study
    • Dr. Sampson on LinkedIn
    • Dr. Sampson's coaching practice
    • The Psychedelic Coaching Institute's Practitioner Certification Program

    Episode Sponsors:

    • KA! Empathogenics Kanna Supplements. Get 10% off with code THIRDWAVE at checkout
    • Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off.

    Wade T. Lightheart - Enzymes & Entheogens: Optimizing Health Through Digestion & Psychedelics Sep 09, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Wade Lightheart, co-founder and president of BiOptimizers.

    Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-265-wade-t-lightheart/?ref=278

    Wade shares his journey from bodybuilding to creating one of the world's best supplement brands. He discusses the importance of digestive health, the role of enzymes and probiotics, and how plant medicine experiences have shaped his philosophy on health and consciousness. Wade emphasizes the need for a holistic approach to wellness that combines physical, mental, and spiritual practices.

    Wade T. Lightheart is a Certified Sports Nutritionist Advisor and president/director of education and co-founder of BIOptimizers. As a plant-based and drug-free athlete for more than two decades, Wade is a three-time National Natural Bodybuilding Champion who competed in both the IFBB Mr. Universe and the INBA Natural Olympia by the age of 31. At the age of 50, Wade came out of retirement to win the Open Men's and Grand Master's Categories at the INBA Ironman International, then competed at The PNBA Natural Olympia. Six months later, Wade successfully ran his first marathon in four hours.

    Highlights:

    • Experiences with psychedelics and near-death experiences
    • Wade's journey from bodybuilding to plant-based nutrition
    • The five-stage process of digestion and modern food challenges
    • The role of magnesium in health and its importance in Bioptimizers products
    • BiOptimizers' mission and vision for the future
    • The free "84 days" course offered by Bioptimizers

    Episode Links:

    • BiOptimizers' Magnesium Breakthrough (Third Wave Discount applied)
    • BiOptimizers on Instagram
    • BiOptimizers on Facebook

    Episode Sponsors:

    • Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off.

    Tonia Erin - Practitioner Spotlight: Bridging Psychedelics with Technology Sep 06, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Tonia Erin, a psychedelic practitioner and graduate of The Psychedelic Coaching Institute's Practitioner Training Program.

    Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-264-tonia-erin/?ref=278

    Tonia shares her journey from a successful career in tech at Adobe to becoming a psychedelic coach and startup founder. She discusses her work with Energy.Work, a platform bridging technology and spirituality, and explores the potential of ultra-low dose 5-MeO-DMT. Tonia also delves into the importance of bringing feminine energy into psychedelic work and the value of ceremony and ritual in personal development.

    Tonia Erin's life's work is woven from threads of deep spiritual inquiry and a heartfelt calling to facilitate transformation and healing. Having ventured through the realms of technology and leadership, she found her true passion in bridging the ancient wisdom of earth-based practices with modern approaches to personal growth.

    For over two decades, Tonia immersed herself in the tech industry, where she led teams and pioneered innovative projects. Yet, beneath the surface, she was cultivating a rich, inner landscape through her studies and practices in spirituality and self-development. Her journey took a transformative turn when she embraced the profound teachings of psychedelics, which deepened her relationships with herself and the world around her.

    Driven by a vision to support others on their paths to self-discovery, she left the corporate world to dedicate herself to coaching and healing work. She is a certified coach specializing in psychedelic preparation and integration with a passion for creating sacred spaces and facilitating ceremonies that honor the rites of passage that unfold throughout our lives.

    Highlights:

    • Transitioning from tech to psychedelic coaching
    • The role of psychedelics in career transitions
    • energy.work: Bridging technology and spirituality
    • The potential of ultra-low dose 5-MeO-DMT
    • The importance of data in psychedelic research
    • Working with women in psychedelic integration
    • Creating rituals for life transitions
    • Building nature-inspired technologies

    Episode Links:

    • Tonia's Website
    • energy.work
    • Tonia on Instagram
    • Tonia on LinkedIn
    • The Psychedelic Coaching Institute

    Matt Dawson, M.D. - Health Sovereignty: Psychedelics & Personalized Medicine Sep 02, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Matthew Dawson, co-founder and CEO of Wild Health.

    Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-263-matt-dawson-md/?ref=278

    Dr. Dawson shares his journey from sports to medicine, highlighting the importance of movement and play in human well-being. He discusses Wild Health's innovative approach, combining cutting-edge technology with reconnecting people to nature.

    Dr. Matthew Dawson attended medical school at The University of Kentucky before completing his residency in emergency medicine at The University of Utah, where he served as both chief resident and fellow. He has practiced medicine and was an associate professor at the University of Kentucky for 7 years, with an acute interest in functional medicine and, later, genomics. Dr. Dawson's obsession with performance optimization began well before medical school. Dr. Dawson crystallized this approach to providing patients with true health care, rather than sick care, by building Wild Health – a Precision Medicine service providing personalized, genetics-based care to help patients achieve optimal wellbeing. Dr. Dawson also co-hosts the Wild Health Podcast.

    Highlights:

    • From athlete to physician: Dr. Dawson's journey
    • Wild Health: Merging technology and nature
    • Psychedelics' potential in personalized medicine
    • Genetic factors in psychedelic metabolism
    • Balancing objective metrics and subjective experiences
    • Holistic approaches to health optimization
    • AI-driven personalized health recommendations
    • Epigenetics: The frontier of diagnostics
    • Citizen science in advancing personalized medicine
    • Health Sovereignty: Empowering individuals through personalized medicine

    Episode Sponsor:

    • Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off.

    Stephen Thayer, Ph.D. - Healing the Healer: How Psychedelics Transform Therapy Aug 26, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Stephen Thayer, a clinical psychologist and lead trainer for psychedelic therapists at Numinus.

    Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-262-stephen-thayer-phd/?ref=278

    Dr. Thayer shares his journey from military psychologist to psychedelic-assisted therapy specialist, discussing his personal experiences with ketamine and psilocybin. He explores the integration of psychedelics into therapy and coaching, highlighting the distinctions between these roles. Dr. Thayer emphasizes the importance of facilitator training and personal psychedelic experiences, making a compelling case for evidence-based psychedelic mental healthcare alongside ceremonial or spiritual contexts.

    Note: This conversation was recorded in May 2024, prior to the FDA's decision on Lykos Therapeutics' MDMA-assisted therapy clinical trial for PTSD. The recent FDA ruling, which requested additional studies, will impact some of the information discussed regarding MDMA's path to medical approval. However, we believe this episode remains valuable for its insights into the broader landscape of psychedelic therapy, practitioner training, and the ongoing evolution of the field. Enjoy!

    Dr. Steve Thayer, Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist who specializes in psychedelic-assisted therapy practice, training, and research. He began his career in the U.S. Air Force where he led mental health care teams, provided therapeutic and assessment services, and counseled military leadership about community mental health concerns. As an adjunct professor, Dr. Thayer has taught graduate and undergraduate courses in counseling skills, clinical psychology, and personality theory. He has served as the lead therapist on several psychedelic medicine clinical trials and currently consults for Compass Pathways as a mentor to the therapists working on their phase 3 trial of psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression. Dr. Thayer is the Lead Instructor for Numinus's psychedelic-assisted therapy certification program and co-hosts Numinus's podcast, Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers. Dr. Thayer has a private therapy and coaching practice where he helps people resolve the unconscious blocks keeping them from creating the happiness, wealth, freedom, and relationships they crave.

    Highlights:

    • From military psychology to psychedelic therapy
    • Personal explorations with ketamine and psilocybin
    • Psychedelics for mental health and spiritual exploration
    • Integrating psychedelics into therapy and coaching
    • Motivation for entering the psychedelic industry
    • Bringing psychedelic awareness to the unconscious mind
    • The potential for harm in the psychedelic underground
    • Principles of effective psychedelic facilitation
    • Assessing personal readiness as a psychedelic facilitator
    • Experiential MDMA training for therapists
    • Balancing evidence-based and spiritual approaches

    Episode Sponsors:

    • Apollo Neuro - Third Wave listeners get 15% off.
    • Soltara Healing Center: Use code TW200 to receive $200 off your next retreat.

    Psychedelic Horizons: Live Panel Discussion, Malibu, CA Aug 19, 2024
    Show notes

    Join host Paul F. Austin in a special live episode recorded at Psychedelic Horizons in Malibu in June, 2024, with guests Louie Schwartzberg, Lauren Taus, and Bá Minuzzi.

    Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-261-psychedelic-horizons/?ref=278

    This engaging discussion explores themes of resilience, systems change, and inspired living, focusing on the intersection of psychedelics and conscious entrepreneurship. Discover insights on personal transformation, community building, and the evolving psychedelic landscape. Don't miss this unique conversation from the forefront of the psychedelic renaissance.

    Louie Schwartzberg: Director of "Fantastic Fungi" and a pioneer in high-end time-lapse cinematography, Louie supports clinical research with visual imagery, bringing a visionary lens to the benefits of psilocybin mushrooms.

    Lauren Taus: Founder of Inbodied Life, Lauren is a clinical therapist trained by MAPS. Her work focuses on ecologies of healing, supporting liberation, and integrating societal systems for growth and healing.

    Bá Minuzzi: Entrepreneur and conscious investor, Bá leads wealth management for high-net-worth clients with UMANA. She champions psychedelic medicine as a transformative force for societal change.

    Highlights:

    • Introduction to panel discussion
    • Lessons from the mycelial network of fungi
    • Embracing the third wave of psychedelics
    • Navigating challenges in business
    • The balancing act of integrity and vision
    • Seeking reverence for plant life
    • Using beauty to fight fear
    • The inner work of leaders
    • The transformative power of psychedelics

    Episode Sponsor:

    • Sacred House of Eden: Get a $500 discount on one of their 2024 retreats by mentioning Third Wave when filling out their inquiry form.

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