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Steve and Stuart find out why Björn Ulvaeus and Thom Yorke are among thousands of signatories of a statement warning AI companies over copyright, and discuss the news that Lily Allen says she makes more money from OnlyFans foot pictures than she does from music streaming.
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Steve and Stuart answer questions from listeners, including one on how artists pay to use samples in their recordings, and another on whether a live music loyalty scheme might help support grassroots venues.
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In the run-up to National Album Day, Steve and Stuart speak to the boss of EarMUSIC/MPS Records and one of the founding voices behind National Album Day, Jonathan Green, and Head of Marketing at the Entertainment Retailers Association and the organiser of Record Store Day UK, Megan Page.
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Steve and Stuart discuss the news that ABBA Voyage generated more than £100m in revenue last year, and find out why Doja Cat has teamed up with Airbnb.
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Steve and Stuart answer listeners' questions on the financial side of music videos and Noel Gallagher's publishing rights and how they're changing.
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Steve and Stuart discuss the news that Oasis have ditched dynamic pricing for their North American tour, and find out why Kesha has launched her own record label.
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Steve and Stuart answer listeners' questions, including which merchandise is the most profitable for artists, and whether artists still pay for support slots.
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Steve and Stuart find out why TikTok has announced it's shutting down its Spotify-style TikTok Music service for good, and discuss the news that Tempo Music has filed a lawsuit against Miley Cyrus for allegedly copying Bruno Mars’ When I Was Your Man to create her 2023 hit Flowers.
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Steve and Stuart talk to Tom Kiehl, chief executive of UK Music, about AI, streaming, ticket prices, grassroots venues and more.
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Steve and Stuart discuss the news that Coldplay have announced some new UK stadium shows and 10% of the proceeds will be going to grassroots venues, and find out why Beyonce isn't making music videos any more.
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Steve and Stuart talk to Timm Cleasby about his long career in the music industry, which includes his current role as director of operations at Tramlines Festival, and his time as Arctic Monkeys‘ tour manager from 2005 to 2010.
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Steve and Stuart discuss the news that the competition watchdog has launched an investigation into the way tickets were sold for the Oasis reunion gigs, and find out why The White Stripes are suing Donald Trump.
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Steve and Stuart discuss the recent report from LIVE, which says Spending on UK live music has hit a record £6.1bn, and find out why Method Man says he’s never been paid for streams.
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Steve and Stuart take a detailed look at all the money angles around next year's Oasis reunion tour.
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Steve and Stuart analyse how bands get onto streaming playlists, and discuss how best to define what an 'independent label' actually is in practice.
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Steve and Stuart speak to Official Charts chief executive Martin Talbot about streaming, vinyl sales, the future of the charts, and much more.
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Steve and Stuart speak to Sam Duckworth from Get Cape. Wear Cape. Fly about his fascinating career so far in the music industry, including his experience of signing to a major label, building his own studio, and much more.
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Steve and Stuart find out why Malaysia’s Good Vibes Festival is suing The 1975, and discuss the news that Live Nation has posted revenues of $6bn in its second quarter.
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Steve and Stuart find out why Apollo Global Management have invested $700m in Sony Music Group, and why Universal Music Group's share price took a recent tumble.
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Steve and Stuart speak to Kelly Wood, National Organiser for Live, Theatre & Music Writers at the Musicians' Union, about help available for artists, live performance rates, and much more.
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Steve and Stuart find out why London-based ticketing platform DICE is in advanced talks to sell a significant stake in the company, and discuss the news that Mungo Jerry have employed an anti-piracy firm to protect their music from illegal use.
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Steve and Stuart look at the differences between secondary ticketing websites and old-fashioned ticket touts, and find out how music metadata works.
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Steve and Stuart discuss how much money might be offered to Oasis to tempt them to reform, and find out why the Beastie Boys are suing the US restaurant chain, Chilli's.
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Steve speaks to legendary songwriter, bassist, singer and radio presenter Tom Robinson, about the money side of his long and distinguished music career.
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Steve and Stuart discuss the news that Coldplay have settled their legal dispute with their former manager Dave Holmes, and the financial implications of Rema's Calm Down hitting 2bn Spotify streams.
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Steve and Stuart discuss the difference in cost between putting on indoor and and outdoor gigs, and analyse how musicians get paid when their music is used on a podcast.
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Steve and Stuart find out why a group of songwriters are suing PRS for Music, and discuss the news that Kanye West and the estate of Donna Summer have reached a settlement over a copyright dispute.
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Steve and Stuart answer listeners' questions on the money behind Bandcamp and how songwriter royalties work when it comes to live cover versions.
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Steve and Stuart take a look at the finances behind Glastonbury Festival, and find out why major record labels are suing AI music generators.
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Steve and Stuart answer questions from listeners, including a run down of the difference between PRS and PPL, and how the money from gig tickets gets split.
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Steve and Stuart discuss the Twitch deal which allows DJs to livestream music, and find out why streaming services will have to pay 5% of their revenues to support Canadian music.
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Steve and Stuart speak to artist manager Sarah Brooksbank, who's managed the likes of Fat White Family and Working Men's Club, and producer Ross Orton, who's worked with Yard Act, Roots Manuva, Artic Monkeys and The Vaccines, live at Crossed Wires, the podcast festival in Sheffield.
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Steve and Stuart find out why the boss of Sony Music wants streaming services to ditch their free tier, and discuss the news that Queen's back catalogue is reportedly up for sale.
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Stuart speaks to Jo Twist, chief executive of the BPI (British Phonographic Industry), which represents major and independent labels in the UK, about AI, streaming, music education, and lots more.
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Steve and Stuart analyse the different types of music royalty payments and how they work, and discuss how much Sophie Ellis-Bextor and her co-writer have made from Murder on the Dancefloor after the song was given a new lease of life by the movie Saltburn.
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Steve and Stuart Sony Music find out why Sony Music Group has written to AI companies telling them not to use its artists' work, and discuss why music publishers are suing Spotify.
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Steve and Stuart speak to Caius Pawson, co-founder of climate strategy charity Murmur and founder of record label Young.
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Steve and Stuart find out why a group of UK MPs believe a levy on arena and stadium tickets should be introduced, and analyse the reasons behind a 20% increase in Live Nation's revenues.
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Steve speaks to singer-songwriter Lucy Rose about the money side of her music career.
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Steve and Stuart discuss who has to pay to play music in workplaces and other public spaces, and discuss how the money for merchandise is split between artists and venues.
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Steve and Stuart take a closer look at what's causing the problems for the new arena in Manchester, Co-op Live, and discuss Billie Eilish's 81-date world tour.
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Steve and Stuart speak to TikTok artists Charlie Tyler and Russell James Williams about how they got started and how they're now making a living from the social media platform.
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Steve and Stuart find out who's interested in buying the Hipgnosis Songs Fund, and discuss the news that 'nature' has been recognised as a musical artist.
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- In Tune With Tomorrow
- Hipgnosis Songs Fund
- US Department of Justice and Live Nation
- TikTok live music pop-up
- Taylor Swift fans scammed
- O2 'carbon removed' gigs
- 'Nature'
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Steve and Stuart discuss the news that secondary ticketing firm StubHub is looking to float on the stock market this summer, and find out why Nine Inch Nails' Trent Reznor says streaming has ‘mortally wounded’ some artists.
COVERED IN THIS EPISODE:
- StubHub
- Trent Reznor
- UK law
- PPL revenue
- New PRS Foundation fund
- Taylor Swift and TikTok
- Udio
- Independent labels
- WMG and Believe
- Rough Trade Liverpool
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Steve and Stuart answer listeners' questions, including a look at how physical album sales are measured, and whether artists' podcast revenues are separate from streaming revenues.
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- Physical album sales
- Artists' podcast revenues
- Universal earnings
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Steve and Stuart take an in-depth look at the latest goings-on in relation to AI and the music industry, including the news that more than 200 artists have signed an open letter calling on AI developers, tech companies, and digital services “to cease the use of artificial intelligence to infringe upon and devalue the rights of human artists”, and find out why independent labels are backing Universal Music over its battle with TikTok.
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- Artists' open letter to AI developers
- Glorb
- KISS
- Spotify's AI playlists
- Spotify's prices
- Stable Audio 2.0
- Indie labels, Universal Music and TikTok
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Stuart and Steve find out why Blur drummer Dave Rowntree is leading a legal challenge over songwriter royalties, and discuss the news that BMG's annual revenues are up 5% to £775m.
COVERED IN THIS EPISODE:
- Dave Rowntree legal challenge
- £1 ticket levy
- BMG
- Joni Mitchell
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Steve and Stuart answer listeners' questions, including whether musicians have pensions, and how radio play payments work.
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- Musicians and pensions
- Industry plants
- Radio play payments
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Steve and Stuart take a close look at the latest Global Music Report and the news that global recorded music revenues increased by more than 10% last year, and find out why James Blake is backing Vault, a direct artist-to-fan streaming platform focused on unreleased music.
COVERED IN THIS EPISODE:
- IFPI Global Music Report
- James Blake and Vault
- 'Elvis Act'
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Steve and Stuart discuss the news that UK recorded music revenue increased 8.1% to just under £1.5bn last year, and find out why Deezer has removed 26m tracks from its platform.
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- SXSW
- UK recorded music revenue
- Believe takeover
- EU Artificial Intelligence Act
- Deezer removes 26m tracks
- Mark Knopfler charity single
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Stuart speaks to Sam Duboff, Global Head of Spotify for Artists, marketing and policy, about Spotify’s latest Loud & Clear report, streaming royalties, and much more.
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Steve and Stuart look closely at the cost of releasing vinyl, how the money you spend on a record gets split, and why vinyl sales are growing.
COVERED IN THIS EPISODE:
- Cost of releasing vinyl records
- Number of independent record shops in the UK hits ten-year high
- World’s First EcoRecord
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Steve and Stuart find out why the European Commission has fined Apple over €1.8bn, and discuss Raye's speech at The Brits, where she called for songwriters to receive “master royalty points”.
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- European Commission fines Apple
- Raye and 'master royalty points'
- Universal vs TikTok
- UK government rules out equitable remuneration
- The 1975 play world’s first carbon-removed arena events
- Taylor Swift and Beyoncé saving the cinema industry
- Thrash metal band releases latest single as a slice of pizza
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Steve and Stuart speak to Nathan Clark, owner of the much-loved Brudenell Social Club in Leeds, about the financial realities of running an independent venue.
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Steve and Stuart take a look at the latest figures from the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, which show that four of the top ten best-selling artists worldwide in 2023 were from South Korea, and find out why UMG has bought a majority stake in the Nigerian record label Mavin.
COVERED IN THIS EPISODE:
- Top ten best-selling artists worldwide in 2023
- Top ten best-selling singles worldwide in 2023
- UMG buys stake in Mavin
- Nine UK festivals cancelled
- Financial support for UK artists
- Elton John auction
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Steve and Stuart answer listeners' questions, including a look at how the money is distributed between headliners and supporting acts.
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- Headliners and support acts
- Pet Needs and 'Bottom of the Pops'
- Hobby artists
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Steve and Stuart take an in-depth look at how the money behind Spotify works, and discuss the news that Sony Music has acquired half of Michael Jackson's music catalogues.
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- Spotify finances in-depth
- Sony Music and Michael Jackson's catalogues
- Rod Stewart and his catalogue
- Decline of nightclubs
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Steve and Stuart speak to Nadia Khan, founder and chief executive of Women in CTRL, a non-profit music development organisation on a mission to advance gender equality in music, about female representation in the industry, the recent Misogyny in Music parliamentary report, and more.
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Steve and Stuart find out why Warner Music Group is laying off 10% of its staff, and discuss the news that Belfast rappers Kneecap are planning to sue the UK government.
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- Spotify’s latest financial results
- Warner Music Group laying off 10% of staff
- Megan Thee Stallion and Warner deal
- Music Export Growth Scheme
- Kneecap suing UK government
- Noel Gallagher vs Damon Albarn
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Steve and Stuart take a detailed look at the incendiary row going on between Universal Music Group and TikTok, and find out who foots the bill when ticket sales fall below expectations for gigs.
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- UMG vs TikTok
- Low ticket sales
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Steve and Stuart discuss the news that 125 grassroots music venues closed in the UK last year, and analyse why 45 million tracks on Spotify had zero plays.
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- Grassroots venue closures
- Misogyny and gender pay inequality
- 45 million tracks on Spotify had zero plays last year
- TikTok testing 'AI Song' feature
- Reverend & The Makers giving away a track a day
- Madonna lawsuit over late start time
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In each episode of The Price of Music, Steve Lamacq and Music Ally's Stuart Dredge take a weekly look at the money behind the music industry.
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