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Episode 10 - Judges (and justices) are people too? Feb 21, 2021

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Article about Posner: https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/posner_cites_in-chambers_donning_and_doffing_experiment_dissenter_is_startl

Katz v. Hartz oral argument: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/020421_1-20-0331.mp3

Zuniga v. Major League Baseball oral argument: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/021621_1-20-1264.mp3 Cubs and MLB terms and conditions: https://www.mlb.com/cubs/tickets/terms-and-conditions

Zuniga complaint filed: https://www.cliffordlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Laiah_Zuniga_v_Major_League_Baseball.pdf

American Bankers Insurance Co v. Robert Shockley oral argument is here: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-1938.20-1938_02_10_2021.mp3

Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Katz v. Hartz - reversal Zuniga v. MLB - affirmed American Bankers v. Shockley - reversal

Rule of the week Rule 315

https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-iii-civil-appeals-rules/part-b-appeals-from-the-appellate-court-to-the-supreme-court/rule-315-leave-to-appeal-from-the-appellate-court-to-the-supreme-court

Pat’s article on Mitsias v. I-Flow is here: https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/What-You-Do-Not-Know-Can-Still-Hurt-You.pdf T

he Slate article on the SCOTUS' "shadow docket" is here: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/supreme-court-shadow-docket-house-hearing.html

Episode 9 - Does this policy cover anything? Feb 14, 2021

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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong - Demkovich - Dan and Pat say the 7th Circuit will answer a different question than the one posed and find a more narrow exception than the one sought by the Church - Evanston - Dan and Pat say affirm - Ghostanyans - Dan and Pat say affirm

Rule of the Week: FRCP Rule 23

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Demkovich v. St. Andrew oral argument: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.19-2142.19-2142_02_09_2021.mp3

Evanston v. MHM oral arguments: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/020921_1-20-0552.mp3

Ghostanyans v. Goodwin oral arguments: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/020421_1-19-2125.mp3 FRCP 23: https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_23

Episode 8 - The Jalopy of Justice Feb 07, 2021

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Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814/ Follow the show at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/podium-and-panel-podcast Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Timbs v. Indiana - Dan and Pat - Timbs wins SDC v. Align - Dan and Pat - Align wins Main v. ADM - Dan and Pat - Main wins Dan and Pat correctly predicted Roberts v. Zimmerman last week and are 2-0. The decision in Roberts v. Zimmerman is here: https://courts.illinois.gov/R23_Orders/AppellateCourt/2021/2ndDistrict/2191088_R23.pdf Timbs argument before SCOTUS – 2018

Rule of the Week: Certified Questions to state high courts

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2018/17-1091 Timbs opinion before SCOTUS https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-1091_5536.pdf Indiana Supreme Court decision – 2019 https://public.courts.in.gov/Decisions/api/Document/Opinion?Id=RFHX75lxKFDURPQJtu3TKxfYFRzQMPUtKXtqePwknTu-uX7kxB_VW2XvhIvb8rMS0 Trial Court Ruling – 2020 https://ij.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Findings-of-Fact-Conclusions-an.pdf IJ press release following win in trial court: https://ij.org/press-release/14-months-after-u-s-supreme-court-victory-tyson-timbs-wins-civil-forfeiture-case/ Timbs argument from last week : https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2528&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20 SDC Oral Arguments: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/012621_1-19-1989.mp3 Main v. ADM: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/4th/012721_4-20-0313.mp3 Cutchin v. Robertson: file:///C:/Users/cotter/Downloads/Cutchin%20v.%20Robertson.pdf Circuit Rule 52: http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/rules-procedures/rules/rules.htm#cr52

Episode 7 - A Reverse Bernie Madoff Jan 31, 2021

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Rule of the Week: Dismissed as Improvidently Granted, not really a rule, but here is the link to the opinion in Schein, Inc. v. Archer and White Sales, Inc.: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/19-963_2c8f.pdf

Predictions sure to go wrong: BP - Dan and Pat pick reversal Indeck - some type of clarification of usurpation for corporation opportunity and remand Walworth - reversal Roberts - reversal in some form https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/19-963_2c8f.pdf

The link to the argument in BP v. Baltimore is here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/19-1189

The link to the oral argument in Walworth Investments-LG, LLC v. MU Sigma, Inc. before the Illinois Appellate Court, First District is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/012621_1-19-1937.mp3

The link to the argument in Indeck Energy Services, Inc. v. DePodesta before the Illinois Supreme Court is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Video/2021/011321_125733.mp4

The link to the argument in Roberts v. Zimmerman before the Illinois Appellate Court, Second District is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/2nd/012521_2-19-1088.mp3

The 11th circuit decision in Mama Joe’s can be found here: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca11/18-12887/18-12887-2020-08-18.html

Episode 6 - Nominal Damages, Textualism, and Parol Evidence Jan 24, 2021

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In Episode 6, we will discuss two oral arguments before the Supreme Court of the United States, Uzuegbunam v. Preczewski and AMG Capital Management, LLC v. FTC, and one before the Seventh Circuit, Platinum Supplemental Insurance v. Guarantee Trust Life Insurance.
Uzuegbunam deals with our old friend standing and whether nominal damages are sufficient to support Article III standing for a constitutional violation.
AMG Capital Management, LLC is an important case for the textual means of statutory interpretation and deals with whether the Federal Trade Commission can seek restitution in federal court.
Platinum Supplemental concerns means of contract interpretation and what sources can be used to interpret a term that is unambiguous.

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Predictions sure to go wrong:

Dan and Pat – Uzuegbunam wins, Bradford loses

Dan and Pat punt on AMG and Platinum

Rule of the Week: Illinois Supreme Court Rule 304(a), FRCP Rule 54(b), and Indiana Trial Rule 56(c)

The oral argument in Uzuegbunam v. Preczewski is here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/19-968

The oral argument in AMG Capital Management, LLC v. FTC is here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/19-508

Platinum Supplemental Insurance v. Guarantee Trust Life Insurance

http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-1906.20-1906_01_13_2021.mp3

Episode 5 - The Third Trip to the Illinois Supreme Court Jan 20, 2021

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In this special episode we interview David Shapiro who argued for the petitioner in Beaman v. Freemeyer last before the Illinois Supreme Court. We discussed the oral argument in this case in Episode 4 of the podcast. David is the Director of the Supreme Court and Appellate Program of the Roderick and Solange MacArthur Justice Center, a group of eight appellate attorneys in Chicago and Washington D.C. dedicated to strategic representation in high-stakes civil rights appeals throughout the nation.

Episode 4 - Two Wrongful Convictions and a Procedural Morass Jan 17, 2021

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In this episode we discuss three recent oral arguments regarding civil matters before the Illinois Supreme Court: Beaman v. Freemeyer, Ciolino v. Simon, and Eighner v. Tiernan.

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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Beaman: affirmed Ciolino: affirmed Eighner: affirmed

Rule of the Week: HB3360 prejudgment interest bill

The link to the oral argument in Beaman v. Freemeyer is here:

http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Video/2021/011321_125617.mp4

The Illinois Supreme Court decision vacating Beaman’s criminal conviction is here:

https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/2042532/people-v-beaman/

The first Illinois Supreme Court decision in the Beaman civil case is here:

https://law.justia.com/cases/illinois/supreme-court/2019/122654.html

The 2019 Fourth District opinion appealed from in Beaman v. Freemeyer is here:

https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2019/4thDistrict/4160527.pdf

The 2015 Seventh Circuit decision in Beaman v. Freemeyer is here:

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca7/14-1195/14-1195-2015-01-13.html

The link to the oral argument in Ciolino v. Simon is here:

http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Video/2021/011421_126024.mp4

The statute of limitations for defamation in Illinois, 735 ILCS 5/13-201, is here:

https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/073500050K13-201.htm#:~:text=Sec.,the%20cause%20of%20action%20accrued

The link to the Murder in the Park documentary is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAB1_W0hDZY

The oral argument is in Eighner v. Tiernan is here:

http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Video/2021/011421_126101.mp4

The appellate court opinion in Eighner v. Tiernan is here:

https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2020/1stDistrict/1191369.pdf

735 ILCS 5/2-1009 is here:

https://ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/073500050K2-1009.htm

735 ILCS 5/13-217 is here:

https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K13-217

Episode 3 - Free Speech, Anonymity, and SCOTUS Jan 12, 2021

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In this special episode we interview Louie Castoria who represented the Thomas More Law Center against the California AG regarding disclosure of donor lists. A petition for writ of certiorari was granted last week and we thank Louie for his time. This is an important free speech case building on the precedent set forth in NAACP v. Alabama. Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814 Follow the show at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/podium-and-panel-podcast The link to NAACP v. Alabama, 357 U.S. 449 (1958) is here: https://www.oyez.org/cases/1957/91 The Scotusblog page for the case we discussed in this episode, Thomas More Law Center v. Becerra is here: https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/thomas-more-law-center-v-becerra/

Episode 2 - BIPA, Standing, and Ambiguity Jan 10, 2021

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In this episode Dan and Pat discuss a BIPA regarding standing and removal, Thornley v. Clearview, before the 7th Circuit and a cyber insurance case before the Indiana Supreme Court, G&G Oil Company of Indiana v. Continental Western Insurance Company. Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814 Follow the show at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/podium-and-panel-podcast Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Dan - Thornley remanded to state court and G&G Affirmed Pat - Thornley remanded to state court and G&G Affirmed Rule of the Week: Illinois Supreme Court Rule 352: https://courts.illinois.gov/SupremeCourt/Announce/2018/052518-4.pdf Thornley v. Clearview oral argument is here: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-3249.20-3249_01_04_2021.mp3 G&G Oil Company of Indiana v. Continental Western Insurance Company oral argument is here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2519&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20 Standard Fire v. Knowles 568 US 588 (2013) is here: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2012/11-1450 Spokeo, Inc. v. Robins, 136 S. Ct. 1540 (2016) is here: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2015/13-1339 Clapper v. Amnesty International 568 U.S. 398 (2012) is here: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2012/11-1025 Thole v. US Bank, 140 S.Ct. 1615 (2020) is here: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2019/17-1712 Bryant v. Compass Group, USA, Inc.¸2020 U.S. App. LEXIS 14256 is here: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca7/20-1443/20-1443-2020-05-05.html Pat’s column in the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin on standing is here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-eckler-69880814_standing-column-activity-6681832631212019712-nQB_ Pat's Article with Calvin Townsend is here: https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Im-Still-Standing.pdf

Episode 1 - No Reasonable Court Jan 03, 2021

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In this episode we discuss one oral argument and two opinions all before the Illinois Appellate Court and discuss the recent change to Illinois Supreme Court Rule 23. The issues addressed include the organization of the Illinois courts of review, standards of appellate review, Rule 103(b), the Joint Tortfeasor Contribution Act, and forum non conveniens.

Predictions Sure to Go Wrong (Kramer v. Ruiz): Dan - Reversal Pat - Reversal, but if an affirmance then at least a dissent

Rule of the Week - Illinois Supreme Court Rule 23

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The oral argument in Kramer v. Ruiz is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2020/5th/121620_5-20-0026.mp3

The opinion in Harley v. NAPCO is here: https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2020/1stDistrict/1192619.pdf

The opinion in Evans v. Patel is here: https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2020/1stDistrict/1200528.pdf

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