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    The Podcast Accelerator: How to Grow Your Podcast

    Hosted by Mark Asquith, the accomplished co-founder, and Managing Director of podcasting platform Captivate, The Podcast Accelerator is your comprehensive guide to mastering the art and business of podcasting. With a strong focus on delivering actionable insights, cutting-edge strategies, and industry-leading knowledge, this podcast is designed to help you propel your podcast to the next level.

    Drawing on “That British Podcast Guy’s” extensive experience in podcasting, The Podcast Accelerator covers an array of topics, from content creation and storytelling techniques to audience growth and engagement strategies. You’ll also discover the secrets to podcast monetization, unlocking the full potential of your show to create a sustainable, thriving venture.

    In each episode, Mark shares his expert advice, tips, and best practices, often collaborating with industry influencers, successful podcasters, and other specialists to bring you a diverse range of perspectives and insights. The Podcast Accelerator delves into the nuances of podcasting, exploring both the creative and technical aspects, as well as the latest trends, tools, and technologies shaping the industry – all backed by Mark’s experience in the industry since 2013 and over two decades of building successful businesses.

    The Podcast Accelerator releases new episodes every Thursday at 12pm GMT (7am Eastern). Early access to episodes, available two days ahead of the public release, along with exclusive, member-only content, is offered to members as a benefit at https://mark.live/support.

    Whether you’re a seasoned podcaster seeking to refine your craft or a newcomer looking to create a powerful podcast from the ground up, The Podcast Accelerator offers an invaluable learning experience. By tuning in regularly (and for free in your podcast app of choice), you’ll gain a wealth of knowledge and practical guidance that can be immediately applied to your own podcasting journey.

    If you ever need help or have any questions, Mark is always accessible and eager to provide assistance. You can contact him directly at https://mark.live/twitter, where he promises to respond, every time!

    Join Mark Asquith on The Podcast Accelerator and immerse yourself in the exciting world of podcasting. Empower your passion, elevate your skills, and transform your podcast into a compelling success that captivates audiences around the world.

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    Should I Include A Q&A In My Podcast? Mar 19, 2021
    Show notes

    Following up on last week's question, Doug also asked "In my programs which are recorded from webinars I have a Q&A at the end of the program. Do you think I should include the Q&A in the podcast?"

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


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    Apple Podcasts Changes Incrementally Improve Podcasting Mar 15, 2021
    Show notes

    If you've ever seen or heard me talk about the Listener Acquisition Flow at Podcast Movement, Podfest or on my show, you know that I've long struggled with the word "subscribe" in podcasting.

    I started considering it a few years ago when watching the Infinite Dial by Edison Research and Triton and I was reminded of it again last week when watching the 2021 event, too.

    "Subscribe" IS a problem in podcasting and despite shouty OG podcasters saying it's not, times have changed and it really is a small problem with big connotations.

    But why?

    Since podcasting "started" back in the mid-noughties, the world has changed.

    No longer are magazines and newspapers the only things that we subscribe to. Instead, Amazon Prime, Netflix plus any one of a thousand subscription boxes and once-boxed-up software platforms now exist on a monthly or annual subscription basis and take our money in a recurring pattern.

    And they all focus on us owning a subscription.

    When we throw into the mix that podcasters generally aren't great marketers (that's ok, by the way), the word "Subscribe" is thrown around way too often in a ploy to get prospective listeners to listen to more of our show.

    Setting aside that that approach just doesn't work very well in marketing your show (for more on that, you really should check out the Listener Acquisition Flow), for the casual listener (the very people who will help podcasting to grow) the word "subscribe" alludes to having to pay for a podcast in 2021.

    As I said earlier, some OG podcasters have had a bit of a cry about this, saying things like "No one has ever asked me if you have to pay to listen!" (to paraphrase) and while I understand that, it's also representative of podcasting's bigger issues: podcasting isn't yours anymore, OG, it's for everyone and it has moved on - move with it or stagnate, that's your choice, but the "good old days" are done.

    If podcasting is to thrive it has to be more accessible and thankfully, Apple has made a small but significant change to help new people to understand that "subscribing" isn't about paying.

    How?

    By changing the "Subscribe" button in Apple Podcasts to say "Follow", instead, just like Spotify.

    What does this mean for you as a podcaster?

    To answer that, we need to actually look at the prospective listener, for whom a barrier has been lifted: regardless of whether you think the word "subscribe" implies payment is required or not, ambiguity no longer exists and in marketing, the absence of ambiguity leads to positive results.

    People know what to do when ambiguity disappears. Life becomes easier because there's zero education required to show people that that "Subscribe" means something different in podcasting than in Netflix, Amazon and other recurring worlds.

    "Subscribe" really only exists, anyway, in podcasting because that's the nomenclature associated with RSS feeds - it's an old overhang from a time when podcasting was for the geeks like me and not for the on-demand generation who just want what they want.

    Another huge problem for the prospective listener has been removed, too, though: the burden of staying up to date.

    In my Listener Acquisition Flow talk I posit that a listener is different to a fan: a listener is someone who dips into your show and listens now and then; a fan is someone who won't miss an episode even if their ears are on fire.

    We all want fans, but the majority of our listeners are just that - listeners.

    They probably don't listen to every podcast episode that we put out (sorry) and in fact, when I ran some research before launching The Podcast Accelerator, my own listeners told me that the reason they unsubscribe from podcasts is because they get overwhelmed by episodes that they miss.

    I do the same. If I'm "subscribed" to a show and on a drive to work I fancy listening to a podcast, seeing a huge back catalog that I've missed puts this weird pressure on me to revisit every episode.

    So, instead I find a new show that I can dip into, knowing that I'll probably not "Subscribe", I'll just listen right here and now.

    It's odd, I know, but it happens.

    The word "follow", whilst only a subtle shift, is gargantuan in its psychological effect - it lifts a burden and a weight from the listener, in my view, wherein the pressure to stay up to date is removed in favour of a more casual following of a creator at the listener's leisure.

    The final interesting thing about this change is how incremental it is.

    As someone who builds software for podcasters, I know how a platform can change and, through seemingly tiny changes, become something brand new with the passage of time.

    Podcasting is and has done that.

    This change from Apple is something that I feel is long overdue and that Spotify arguably got right early.

    How do you feel about it?

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


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    Should You Release LOTS of Episodes on Launch Day? Mar 12, 2021
    Show notes

    This week, Doug Piper asked "If you're starting a new podcast and you've created 40 or more episodes ready to release. How many would you start with and how often would you release them?" so let me get right to that...

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


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    Explode Your Podcast Growth Mar 08, 2021
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    That episode title right there, that's called a "bait and a switch".

    I have no intention of teaching you how to explode anything.

    Annoyed? Close the email now, it's cool.

    Or don't, your call.

    But you see, this is an experiment: will people who don't usually open these Monday emails open this one because of that subject line?

    If so, what did they expect to find?

    A proven method for podcasting success?

    A roadmap to 10x your downloads?

    A path to podcasting superstardom?

    The more I type this, the more these things begin to feel like subject lines, too - subject lines intended to sell something to you.

    Most of these types of subject line are specifically constructed to appeal to your sense of anxiety and are intended to be set alongside an email that introduces scarcity and urgency with a healthy dose of FOMO (fear of missing out) thrown in, too.

    Let me show you:

    Ready to explode your podcast growth and 10x your revenue with this proven roadmap? The very roadmap that I use myself to lead the life I choose?

    You can access that roadmap instantly if you act right now and choose to take action to work with people just like you who are boosting their revenue as we speak!

    Access these podcast growth secrets right now (number two will shock you!).

    That's hardcore marketing patter with underlying NLP practices included to make you feel like you're understood, you're heard and that the seller is aligning with you in such a way that they must have the answer to why, despite all of your efforts, you're not achieving the success that they have.

    95% of the time it's complete BS.

    But... I DO want to explode my podcast growth

    Hey, doesn't everyone?

    The problem is that by its very definition, the word explode isn't so great...

    Explode: 1. burst or shatter violently and noisily as a result of rapid combustion, excessive internal pressure, or other process. 2. (of a violent emotion or a situation) arise or develop suddenly. (from Oxford Languages)

    Erm... no thanks.

    I was in a Twitter chat with two people I admire very much this weekend and we were having a laugh about Clubhouse being full of this type of marketer right now and heck, podcasting being full of this type of marketer period.

    A few hours later I was cutting the hedge outside (something I suck at by the way, never ask me for a haircut) and was thinking through the reasons why podcasters want to "explode" their growth.

    I came to two logical assumptions.

    Firstly, podcasters want to explode their growth because they want to earn a fair bit of money through their podcast. I'm totally in for that. I like money as much as you - there is nothing wrong with wanting to earn good money through your podcast.

    Secondly, they don't know how to break the plateau they're seeing in their podcast growth so when they're hit with big, powerful verbs like "explode" it gets them curious - what's the secret that they're missing but that everyone else seems to know about?

    Let me tell you an actual secret (no, no, not a time-bound marketing secret that'll cost you $47 (down from $10,000) if you act now)

    Most of the people teaching you how to "explode" anything don't really know how to do it.

    I'm not just being cynical here, I'm being serious.

    The people who know how to explode growth in anything are really busy exploding growth in their thing - not selling courses or spending fifty hours a week on Clubhouse trying to convince people they know how to do it.

    I know of entrepreneurs, online celebrities and many more people who sell this type of guff, but who don't know how to actually do it outside of buying Instagram or Twitter followers to get book or TV deals (Don't believe me? Look at a real celeb's account and the amount of engagement on their Instagram, versus an entrepreneur with similar follower numbers - the engagement is tiny and well, just look at their follower list...).

    The problem?

    It LOOKS like they do know how to do it.

    Because their numbers go up quickly. But they're bought, they're not genuine fans.

    Secret two: I also know podcasters who buy reviews and downloads.

    Seriously.

    The downloads don't pass IAB guidelines so don't count, so sponsors don't see them and thus, it's a waste of time and the reviews are clearly "suspect".

    Let me ask you...

    Why do YOU want to explode your podcast growth?

    If you listened to this because of the title, what did you expect? What would you have preferred to be in this episode?

    I assume you want to know how to grow your podcast, and you want someone to tell you exactly how to do it.

    Well, here's my first tip: buy a book on marketing or consume some well thought out marketing blog posts to help you. And you know what, think about how much time you spend on your podcast each week and more importantly, learn to understand that "exploding" your podcast growth won't lead to monetisation - nurturing relationships with your fans will.

    I honestly know podcasters who make six-figures per year from three-figure episode download numbers.

    Why?

    Because marketing starts with people getting to know you, and you're producing one of the most powerful mechanisms for letting people get to know you that exists in the world right now.

    You're a podcaster. It's what you do.

    Once people know you, like you and can trust what you say the world gets easier because they're willing to believe that your word is good and that anything that you ask them to do is for their benefit.

    You don't need to add made-up scarcity or pretend to teach people how to explode anything just to build your email list. It'll naturally happen.

    And if you keep that honesty in mind, you become a sponsor's dream - sponsors only go for "big" podcasts because they're measuring impressions for their ad (how many times it was delivered) but if you have a small, loyal audience, you can do so much more for that sponsor - you can deliver real results and actual leads.

    I'm sorry for the bait & switch, actually. But it's important.

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
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    How Long is Too Long for a Podcast? - Podcaster Questions Mar 05, 2021
    Show notes

    Gareth Beardall this week asked me how long is TOO long for a podcast and you know, it's a very common question. So, let's find out.

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
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    The Worst Podcasting Advice I've Ever Heard Mar 01, 2021
    Show notes

    I once saw some advice from a podcast guru in their *paid* Facebook group telling someone who wanted to double their audience to produce twice as many shows to do it... need I say more?

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
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    What Is Dynamic Content Insertion? - Podcaster Questions Feb 26, 2021
    Show notes

    There's been a lot of noise lately about podcast advertising and dynamic ad insertion (or content). Rightly so: DAI/DCI is a super exciting facet of podcasting that can make your content more relevant, timely and valuable. Here's my simple explainer!

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
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    Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

    3 Ways to Make A Better Podcast with Descript Feb 22, 2021
    Show notes

    Last week we integrated Captivate with Descript to make your life easier as a podcaster and although integrations sound really cool on Twitter, I wanted to spend a bit of time today giving you some actual real-life insights on how you can make a better podcast by using Descript.

    In fact, here's Descript - this is the only link to it.

    What is Descript?

    • Descript is a super-powerful and super-simple audio & video workstation that helps you to produce outstanding edits, video and promotional podcast content without the need to master complex tools like Audacity or Audition.
    • Descript is good for beginner and pro podcasters and includes advanced AI tools like Overdub and Filler Word Removal which can revolutionize the way you edit - particularly how you run a first edit of your episodes.
    • The interface works exactly like a Word document so there’s no tech barrier, you can carry out much of your podcast production workflow inside Descript without the need for extra tools, subscriptions and juggling different services.
    • Descript publishes your finished file directly to Captivate and allows you to create pretty sweet audiograms, too.

    There are loads of different ways to produce better podcasts in Descript, but here are my 3 cherry-picked recommendations for using Descript to produce a better podcast.

    There are loads of different ways to produce better podcasts in Descript, but here are my 3 cherry-picked recommendations for using Descript to produce a better podcast.

    1. Use the transcription tool for more than just transcription

    Transcriptions are good for accessibility in podcasting and when you import your podcast to Descript, their software does a decent job of transcribing the audio into a usable transcript.

    You're going to have a little work to do, especially if you have a solid Northern English accent like me, but the power that you have here is not just in correcting your transcript using the Word-like editor, but in actually using the editor to tighten up your audio.

    Lemme explain...

    Descript is a non-destructive editor that allows you to edit the words on screen and that will, in real-time, edit the audio to suit what you've tweaked.

    Any good podcaster (any good story-teller) knows that the magic happens in the edit and removing pieces of the podcast or even rearranging the flow slightly to tighten up the narrative will give you a much cleaner, focussed resulting episode.

    Which leads me to...

    2. Use Overdub and Filler Word Removal to tighten up your edit even further

    Good editing isn't just about removing content to tighten up the tale - it's also about adding what may be missing from your first run.

    It's why movies do reshoots (Snyder Cut anyone?!).

    The trouble is that as a podcaster that can be a real pain in the pop filter - firing up the mic, the recorder, stitching up the audio and making sure the transition is smoother than Kieran at a speed-dating night can be time-consuming.

    Until Overdub.

    Overdub is Descript's "killer feature" that allows you to train the app to emulate and deliver a facsimile of your voice so that you can change and add to your audio just by typing.

    It's crazy. And it works.

    Using Overdub to tweak an errant phrase, tighten up a piece of your episode or sharpen a mispronunciation means that there's no need at all to re-record anything.

    You can even add lengthy audio inserts using Overdub, too, but I wouldn't recommend that yet. It's still AI, after-all and while it's brill, it's not a person.

    Pro-tip: go through the full Descript Overdub training script if you intend on using Overdub fully. It'll take 45 mins all in, but it's well worth it. And if you and your co-host are using it, make sure they do the same.

    As if Overdub weren't enough, I highly recommend that you, like, well, kinda look at using Descript's Filler Word Removal tool, to well, kinda, you know get rid of filler words.

    It's badass.

    The way it works is to detect filler words in your audio and then allow you to individually or en masse wipe them out to make your audio even tighter.

    It works very very well and handles the transitions/edits gracefully enough, too - which surprised me, if I'm honest - and even acts like the classic "find + replace" tools that you'll be used to from every piece of software that you've ever used.

    3. Create audiograms to promote your podcast

    Honestly, I'm still not sure about audiograms and how much they do for growth BUT I do know they look sexy.

    Descript includes a really excellent audiogram tool built right into the platform that allows you to create a range of customizable audiograms that can be as long as 30 minutes.

    That's pretty sweet, to be fair.

    What I personally like about this is that, because Descript handles the audiogram creation from one platform, you can tweak the transcript directly and choose to create a 'gram from the full audio composition or the text-selection that you have currently.

    This makes the process super quick and the export process is nice and easy, too, so it'll really help with your workflow.

    Bonus: publish to Captivate

    Once you're finished in Descript, send your audio to Captivate and we'll create an episode for you, ready to tweak and publish.

    The Descript team are a good bunch of people, too, so working with them and their platform is a pleasure.

    Here's a video walkthrough of Descript in case you've never used it, and let me know: do you use Descript in your show workflow?

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
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    Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

    Should I Create an Alexa Flash Briefing? - Podcaster Questions Feb 19, 2021
    Show notes

    Friend and advisor to Captivate Evo Terra has started creating 60-second flash briefings for his show, Podcast Pontifications and it's something we've done for our shorter shows, too. What are the benefits, why create one and how can you produce one for your own podcast?

    You're going to need this link:

    https://developer.amazon.com/en-US/docs/alexa/flashbriefing/steps-to-create-a-flash-briefing-skill.html

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:
    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
    Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
    Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

    How to Deal with a Sudden Drop in Podcast Listeners Feb 15, 2021
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    I delivered a talk at Podcast Movement back in 2015 and during the session I made a quip about podcasters like myself waking up, making a coffee and firing up their download analytics to check the downloads that happened overnight.

    I then went on to state that when I was a new podcaster I'd not only do that myself, but I'd check them every single hour throughout the day.

    It got plenty of laughs and more than a couple of head shakes from the seasoned podcasters in the room.

    It was a flippant point to make and was aimed at being self-deprecating - I wanted to show that I understood how every podcaster feels when they launch their show and heck, even way beyond that as they become a "veteran" podcaster.

    In the early days of a show, the numbers go one way - they have to because nothing existed before. We ride the continual high of growing downloads and seeing our trends all being in the green within Captivate's podcast analytics dashboard means that we rest easy: our podcast is growing.

    But then the growth stops.

    The production hamster-wheel that we put ourselves on the second that we begin creating a podcast isn't enough to sustain the natural "inner-circle" growth that we see in the early days - the days where producing something and letting those close to us know about it is enough to sustain progressive growth.

    How do we handle our podcast's pre-teen years? The years where growth appears to have stunted and our show hasn't hit its startling growth trajectory yet?

    For many podcasters, this is where we quit.

    Why?

    We're told that consistency is key to a growing podcast and I agree with that. But what no one tells us is that it's not only consistency in producing our show that we need to maintain and it's not even consistency in promoting our podcast that we should focus on, it's consistency in growing our marketing that we need to give more attention to.

    Don't worry, this isn't another "do more marketing" message - this is about building a framework to manage download dips and slowdowns in your podcast's growth.

    I liken this experience to training at the gym, in fact.

    As a middle-aged former skinny-guy-turned-pot-bellied-podcaster I have experience in hitting a plateau in weight training.

    At age 31 I was 6 foot 1 inch tall, weighing 150 lbs. At age 33 I was 6 foot 1 inch tall, weighing 210 lbs.

    In two years I trained hard, ate cleanly and added lean mass to my frame to help with my fitness and general mindset - it was something I wanted to achieve to prove that I could do it.

    But it wasn't a straight line. If I were to draw my progress on a line graph, it would be littered with plateaus and dips in progress and oh my, is it disheartening when it happens.

    But there was one course of action and it's something that I learned from those around me who were more experienced than I and which helped me break through a plateau every single time: you have to shock the system into changing itself - you have to do something so that the thing you're trying to develop has to change in response to new stimuli.

    From a training perspective that was a tweak to the diet or a new regimen of exercising that pushed the muscular and cardiovascular systems into having to work on something fresh, thus developing itself progressively with each change.

    The same can be said for your podcast.

    When you see a dip in your podcast downloads, you don't need to be dejected or assume the worst.

    No one likes your podcast any less.

    You haven't lost fans - you've more than likely lost lurkers: those who dip into your show for a few minutes but don't deep-dive.

    That's alright - unless you're converting them to avid listeners (per my favourite visual of this process, the listener acquisition flow - something that warrants a full discussion) you don't need to worry about losing them right now.

    But if you hit a plateau or even see a dip in downloads the thing you need to understand is that something has changed and the only way to break that plateau is to change it again - force your podcast to develop and push it to progress.

    What changed, though?

    There's a range of things that could cause a plateau, from changing your publishing schedule to a change in the social algorithms within the platforms that you promote your podcast to; from a new podcast launching in your niche to you exhausting your "inner circle" of people who listen; from seasonal commuter changes to global lockdowns.

    This can be summarised as: there is something that has changed or exhausted and that you can no longer rely upon to bring you new listeners.

    At this point, you must change.

    You must find one new thing to test, try and measure.

    Podcasters don't do this, though. The usual reaction is to double-down on production, making it even harder to expose your podcast to new prospects because you're even busier producing even more content.

    The other reaction is to go nuclear on the podcast and start thinking about a rebrand and a relaunch. In fact, I know podcasters who have been podcasting for years and have relaunched their show every single year for this reason.

    This is the exact opposite of being consistent.

    One more reaction that I see to a download-dip is one that feels amazing but that is unrealistic: I'll start marketing in ALL these places, TOMORROW - I HAVE to fix this!

    That is an overreaction.

    The goal is to try one new technique at a time and measure how it performs.

    For example, if you have never used Instagram to promote your podcast, one hour strategically and purposefully spent there each week as opposed to spending that extra hour producing more podcast episodes would put your back catalog in-front of thousands of brand new prospective listeners instead of making you feel good about doing something, anything with little return.

    I'm not advocating that as the path you take, I'm advocating for a calmer, more measured and strategic approach to overcoming a download plateau or dip so that every time you experience one (because we all do!) you will feel more confident in slowing down, taking stock and moving forward purposefully with your next podcast growth spurt.

    Your next steps

    I teach podcasting a lot, and usually for free. So, here's what I'd recommend you do next:

    • Watch my free podcasting tutorials on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/rebelbasemedia
    • Learn how to launch your own podcast the right way, for free (plus a comprehensive download-and-keep crib sheet): https://www.podcastsuccessacademy.com
    • Ask me anything at all about podcasting over on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/MrAsquith

    P.S. you can start engaging with your listeners using AWeber. It's free, no credit card required: https://www.MarkAsquith.com/AWeber


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