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    The Pastor Theologians Podcast

    A theology podcast for the church. The pastor theologians podcast consists of conversations and teaching resources at the intersection of theological scholarship and life and ministry in the local church. The vision for this show is to help equip pastors to be theologians for today’s complex world.

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    Adoption Metaphors in Paul | Erin Heim Oct 04, 2021
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    We are joined on this episode by Dr. Erin Heim, a Tutor in Biblical Studies at Wycliffe Hall at the University of Oxford. We discuss her life of faith, training in music, and decision to pursue biblical scholarship. We also discuss Erin's research on metaphors of adoption in the letters of the Apostle Paul. Her research is informed by her own experience as an adoptee, and she argues that many of the ways contemporary Christians talk about adoption in Paul can be painful for adoptees and ironically not very closely related to what Paul actually meant in context.

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    Why We're Hosting a Theology Conference on Race Sep 28, 2021
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    This week we’re sharing a conversation with the CPT staff on why we decided to host a conference on racial injustice this October. Hear Todd Wilson, Joel Lawrence, and Zach Wagner discuss their hope for the gathering in Chicago on October 18–20, 2021.
    Find more info at www.cptconference.com

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    Formation in the Wake of Distress | Vincent Bacote Sep 20, 2021
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    This episode features a presentation from our 2018 conference on spiritual formation, given by Dr. Vincent Bacote of Wheaton College. What can the broader church learn from the experiences and theological emphases of the African American Church? How has the Black experience in America shaped the approach to spiritual formation in these contexts? How can White Christians listen and learn from the wisdom of these communities' shared experience?

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    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Marcus Johnson (Part 2) Sep 13, 2021
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    What is the relationship between theology and the life and worship of the church? CPT Fellow Marcus Johnson discusses his call to ministry and his most recent book (co-authored with John Clark). A Call to Christian Formation: How Theology Makes Sense of the World explores the definition and formative power of theology. How is the church a theological community? How does theology move and transform us?

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    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Marcus Johnson (Part 1) Sep 06, 2021
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    We are joined on this episode by CPT fellow Marcus Johnson, who serves as a theology professor at the Moody Bible Institute as well as an associate rector at St. Mark's Church in Geneva, IL. Marcus explores his story of faith and theological education, including falling in love with theology and navigating God's calling on his life, particularly his journey to see the life of the church as central to the discipline.

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    Authority, Leadership, and Power in the Church (PART 2) | Mickey Klink & Joel Lawrence Aug 30, 2021
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    What is the connection between Mark 10 and Ephesians 5? How do interpretations of these passages make a similar category error around power and authority? What implications do our reflections on power and the pastorate have for church leadership structures and accountability? What is the appropriate relationship between ecclesiology and missiology? All this and more in this episode as we continue our conversation with CPT fellows Joel Lawrence and Mickey Klink.

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    Authority, Leadership, and Power in the Church (PART 1) | Mickey Klink & Joel Lawrence Aug 23, 2021
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    In Mark 10 Jesus makes a distinction between the way the Gentiles exercise authority and the way the greatest among Jesus' disciples must become servants. How does this passage relate to a Christian concept of authority? CPT fellows Joel Lawrence and Mickey Klink explore this and related questions in light of the current crisis of authority in the evangelical church.

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    Christian Patriarchal Feminism | Gerald Hiestand & Amy Peeler Aug 16, 2021
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    Is there such a thing as "Patriarchal Feminism"? This apparent contradiction in terms is at the center of a paper written by CPT fellow and co-founder Gerald Hiestand. Gerald joins our podcast along with CPT fellow Amy Peeler to discuss these ideas. How does Christianity enter into and redeem the "toxic masculinity" that has characterized so many human societies throughout history? How does this relate to contemporary debates between complementarians and egalitarians and, specifically, the question of women's ordination?

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    Pain and Power in 2 Corinthians | Ben White Aug 09, 2021
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    We continue our conversation with CPT fellow Ben White about his PhD research. Ben reflects on how growing up in Canada shapes theological vocation. We also discuss the unique opportunities of teaching at a small evangelical college in New York City. Finally, Ben comments on how a Pauline view of power transforms our conception of power in light of the current crisis of power and abuses of it in evangelicalism.

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    Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Ben White Aug 02, 2021
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    On today's episode we are joined by CPT fellow Ben White. We discuss Ben's story of education and faith, and his calling to become a pastor theologian.

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