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    The Overthinkers

    A place to have fun thinking deeply! Every week, the hosts of The Overthinkers pose a question having to do with art, faith, philosophy, psychology, literature, pop culture, creativity, and more—then attempt to answer it with the help of New York Times bestselling authors, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists, Oscar-winning Hollywood directors/actors, Grammy-winning musicians, esteemed academics, prolific professors, and many more influential and intriguing guests. This is a place where you can both think well and laugh loudly. All are welcome, so put your thinking caps and your laughing socks on and come on in!

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    Latest Episodes:
    What is Rest? Jul 20, 2025
    Show notes

    Summer is a time of rest. But what is rest and how do we rest well? When is too much rest and when is not enough?
    References and resources:

    The trend toward valuing rest more:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2024/01/05/brain-rest-breaks-vacation-benefits/

    Benefits of rest:

    https://hbr.org/2023/08/why-we-glorify-overwork-and-refuse-to-rest

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/womensmedia/2021/01/15/the-benefits-of-resting-and-how-to-unplug-in-a-busy-world/

    https://time.com/6969761/how-to-rest-more-effectively/

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/your-awesome-career/202306/the-critical-need-for-intentional-rest


    You're not working hard enough: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDNAE73vEyX/?hl=en&__coig_challenged=1
    Websites
    Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.com
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com


    Is Authenticity Overrated? Jul 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Millennials and Gen Z love authenticity. But is authenticity all it's cracked up to be? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson investigate and give their takes.

    References and resources:
    Definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/authentic

    Definition and history: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/authenticity/

    Present debates about authenticity: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/authenticity

    Is authenticity overrated? https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/return-stillness/201909/is-authenticity-overrated
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbooksauthors/2022/11/22/authenticity-is-overrated-building-a-more-effective-leadership-style/

    When do people feel most authentic? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0092656618302964


    Blesses
    We Are Not as Strong as We Think We Are (Song)
    Ragamuffin (Movie)
    The Life of Chuck (Movie)
    Curses
    Materialists (Movie)
    How to Be Single (Movie)


    Why Do We Love Superheroes? (With Sean Gaffney) Jul 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Why are superheroes seemingly always so popular? And is that a good thing? We discuss with screenwriter, professor, and author Sean Gaffney.

    References and resources
    List of billion dollar superhero movies: https://deadline.com/gallery/highest-grossing-movies-all-time/mcdjuwo-uv042/
    Superhero dominance of the 2010s: https://www.statsignificant.com/p/the-rise-and-fall-of-superhero-movies

    Superheroes aren’t cinema: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/martin-scorsese-marvel.html

    My reply to Scorsese: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/opinion/letters/martin-scorsese-movies.html

    Superheroes as modern gods: https://www.wired.com/2011/07/grant-morrison-supergods/

    Superheroes as Chivalric Romance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPH9K0x5fY4&ab_channel=PilgrimsPass

    Superheroes as worship: https://anunexpectedjournal.com/superhero-movies-are-worship-not-theme-parks/

    Websites
    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com
    Sean Gaffney: https://gaffneyinkwell.com/


    How Do We Build Community? (With Gov. John Kasich) Jun 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Why is it so hard to build community today and how do we do it anyway? We discuss with author and former governor John Kasich on our latest episode.


    Resources and further reading


    Rise in loneliness: https://bigthink.com/neuropsych/americans-no-friends/

    Health costs of loneliness: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/loneliness-poses-health-risks-as-deadly-as-smoking-u-s-surgeon-general-says#:~:text=How%20do%20we%20design%20technology,15%20cigarettes%20daily%2C%20not%2012.

    Interview with Ryan Burge: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/is-religion-in-decline-with-ryan-burge/id1510271421?i=1000705236657

    Interview with Brad Wilcox: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/are-married-people-happier-with-dr-brad-wilcox/id1510271421?i=1000644150680

    AI friends as a solution: https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/meta-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-wants-you-to-make-ai-friends/491349#:~:text=Key%20Takeaways,the%20idea%20of%20AI%20friends.


    Websites
    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com


    What is the Secret to Happiness? Jun 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Everyone wants to be happy. But for so many, it seems so out of reach. What's the secret? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss on our latest episode.
    References and resources

    Definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/happiness

    Less than half of Americans are happy: https://news.gallup.com/poll/610133/less-half-americans-satisfied-own-lives.aspx

    Philosophers on happiness: https://www.weforum.org/stories/2016/06/13-great-philosophers-on-the-secret-of-happiness/

    Scientists on happiness: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/01/magazine/happiness-research-studies-relationships.html

    Americans say career over committed relationship: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/02/14/more-than-half-of-americans-say-marriage-is-important-but-not-essential-to-leading-a-fulfilling-life/

    Americans spending less time with friends: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/america-decline-hanging-out/677451/

    Mental state or well-being: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/happiness/#MeaHap

    Macronutrients of happiness: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/20/arthur-c-brooks-the-3-macronutrients-of-happiness.html

    Global Flourishing Study: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/05/global-flourishing-study-good-life/
    Websites
    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com


    How Do You Deal with FOMO? Jun 16, 2025
    Show notes

    How do you deal with FOMO (the fear of missing out)? Why is this such a modern phenomenon, and what steps can you take to overcome it? Nathan and Joseph discuss their experiences on the latest episode.
    References and resources: FOMO definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/FOMO History and review of literature: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8283615/ Understanding of FOMO and advice for dealing with it: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/understanding-fomo Understanding JOMO: https://www.afterbabel.com/p/what-happened-to-fomo Websites
    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com


    Do We Need Experts? Jun 09, 2025
    Show notes

    Today lots of people are turning against experts. But is this wise? What are the problems with relying on experts and what are the problems with rejecting them? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss.

    References and resources

    Expert definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/expert

    Trust in science has gone down: https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2023/11/14/americans-trust-in-scientists-positive-views-of-science-continue-to-decline/#:~:text=As%20trust%20in%20scientists%20has,in%20ratings%20of%20scientists%20generally.

    Why Americans don’t trust experts: https://www.vox.com/vox-conversations-podcast/23030205/vox-conversations-michael-lewis-against-the-rules-experts

    Reasons not to trust the experts: https://medium.com/@theo.seeds/5-reasons-why-trusting-the-experts-is-dumb-b2faaed734f2
    Blesses
    The Actor's Handbook (Book)
    Moneyball (Movie)
    Curses
    Jordan Peterson's Biblical Series (TV Series)
    Sully (Movie)
    Websites
    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com


    What is Victim Mentality? Jun 01, 2025
    Show notes

    What is a victim mentality? How do you know you have it and how do you overcome it? Nathan Clarkson and Joseph Holmes discuss.
    References and resources

    Victim mentality definition:

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/victim%20mentality

    https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-a-victim-mentality

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/putting-psyche-back-into-psychotherapy/202401/the-agony-and-ecstasy-of-victimhood

    Why victim mentality is growing
    https://www.afterbabel.com/p/mental-health-liberal-girls

    Why victim mindset is a myth

    https://medium.com/@mirawriter/why-victim-mindset-is-a-myth-655abf07f3aa

    Victimhood defines our politics

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0065260124000169

    Blesses

    Thunderbolts (Movie)

    Drop (Movie)

    Curses

    Self-diagnosis (Phenomenon)

    Shadow of God (Movie)


    How Do You Overcome Impostor Syndrome? (With Mary Marantz) May 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Everyone who has ambitious goals has probably at some point dealt with impostor syndrome. So what is it? And how do we overcome it? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson discuss with best-selling author, podcast host, and sought-after business coach Mary Marantz.
    Further Reading

    Imposter Syndrome definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impostor%20syndrome

    Imposter Syndrome history: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/neuroscience-in-everyday-life/202308/the-history-of-imposter-syndrome
    Blesses
    The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (Movie)
    16 Personalities (Website)
    Dear Evan Hansen (Broadway)
    How to Train Your Dragon (Animated Movie)
    Shrinking (TV Show)
    Curses
    Neon Demon (Movie)
    Hitman (Movie)
    1923 (TV Show)
    Websites
    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarkson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com
    Mary Marantz: https://marymarantz.com/


    How Do You Overcome Addiction? (With Ian Morgan Cron) May 19, 2025
    Show notes

    Most people have either struggled with an addiction or know someone who has. So how does one overcome addiction? Joseph Holmes and Nathan Clarkson invite bestselling author, psychotherapist, Enneagram teacher, and Episcopal priest Ian Morgan Cron to bring insight and empathy to this important topic.
    Further reading

    Addiction definition: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/addiction

    National Institute on Drug Abuse data: https://nida.nih.gov/about-nida/legislative-activities/budget-information/fiscal-year-2024-budget-information-congressional-justification-national-institute-drug-abuse/ic-fact-sheet-2024

    https://nida.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/2023/12/reported-drug-use-among-adolescents-continued-to-hold-below-pre-pandemic-levels-in-2023
    Blesses
    The Ragamuffin Gospel (Book)
    The Fighter (Movie)
    Unapologetic (Book)
    Curse
    Requiem For a Dream (Movie)

    Doctor Sleep (Movie)
    Succession (TV Show)
    Websites
    The Overthinkers: theoverthinkersjournal.world
    Nathan Clarksson: nathanclarkson.me
    Joseph Holmes: josephholmesstudios.com
    Ian Cron: https://ianmorgancron.com/



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