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Welcome to a podcast about performance climbing, self-improvement, and being a human being.
5M+ downloads.
“One of the best long-form interview podcasts in the outdoor space.” – Climbing Magazine
Copyright: © 2020 The Nugget Climbing, LLC
Will Anglin is an expert boulderer and the founder of Tension Climbing. I love the way this guy thinks, and there are many nuggets in this episode. We talked about the key principles of climbing hard, the most common confusion points about training for climbing, why we should treat climbing like baseball, the number one thing all climbers should do, the evolution of Tension, why it took 10+ years to develop the Tension Board 2 (TB2), why every detail matters when building a new product, and much more!
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Nuggets:
0:00:00 – Intro/Ads
0:05:06 – Eggs and espresso
0:06:55 – Focus on protein to save mental energy
0:09:49 – Cat litter
0:10:56 – Two main topics I want to cover with Will
0:13:06 – An email I sent Will in 2015, and why I transitioned away from the Anderson brothers’ way of training
0:17:49 – Will’s early climbing, youth competitions, wanting to be strong, and getting into training
0:26:28 – Will’s first time deep water soloing at Summersville Lake
0:27:57 – Trad climbing in the Black Canyon
0:31:26 – Pivoting to bouldering, and the bouldering vs. sport climbing in Colorado
0:35:56 – Why Will has spent more time developing boulders than sport climbs, and why people chip routes
0:40:02 – Chipping in bouldering, and suspending your disbelief
0:47:09 – Why the “best way to train” is not a useful concept
0:54:26 – Why it doesn’t make sense to copy the pros
0:55:48 – The baseball analogy
0:59:04 – Why your hangboarding should change over the course of your climbing career
1:00:13 – Working on skills at sub-maximal intensity, and learning to connect training with rock climbing skill development
1:03:44 – “Keep the goal the goal.” - Dan John
1:05:19 – The best climbers are the most adaptable climbers
1:09:01 – Will’s ‘Hangboarding: A Way’ article, and the most common confusion points and questions that Will gets about advice he’s given in the past
1:10:59 – Why you shouldn’t take time away from your climbing time to do more strength training
1:14:48 – It’s normal to fail on climbs that are easier than your max redpoint grade
1:17:04 – Why I started seeking out more “basic” power climbs, and how modern training is affecting outdoor bouldering grades
1:19:37 – How styles and grades evolve over time
1:24:15 – “The concept of a well-rounded climber moves.”
1:25:52 – Why people used to say Joe’s Valley is soft, and how gym climbing shapes our conception of climbing
1:30:35 – Conflating doability with difficulty, and finding the beta that fits you
1:33:51 – Why Will feels like he learned how to climb in Gunnison, and the value of climbing on different rock types
1:35:54 – Discovering that hard climbs can be fun, and wow traveling has allowed me to discover what I actually enjoy most in climbing
1:39:39 – Why grades tend to become more confusing as you progress, and the weirdness at the top-level grades
1:43:09 – The unconstrained nature of climbing, and box checking
1:49:07 – “It’s not about the exercise.”
1:54:00 – “The number one thing is go rock climbing.”
2:00:54 – How not all climbing styles are created equal in the way they develop you as a climber, and why I’m so impressed with the Tension Board 2
2:04:43 – Our culture’s obsession with climbing, and validating climbing just because it’s fun
2:07:23 – The Climbing Community is Imaginary
2:08:49 – There are many valid ways to “be a climber”
2:11:14 – How Will feels about climbing after building Tension, having no breaks from it, and creating separation between his personal climbing and his business
2:13:59 – One of Will’s main priorities with Tension, having a life outside of Tension and climbing, playing musical instruments, having carpal tunnel, and building guitars
2:20:12 – The evolution of Tension, and how the company started
2:28:56 – How the Flash Board came to be
2:30:49 – More about the development of the Tension Board 2
2:36:54 – Designing the holds for the TB2, and why the design process should start with the raw materials
2:42:24 – Getting benighted in the Black Canyon
2:48:31 – “Everything fucking matters.”
2:50:29 – Take the time to build a solid foundation
2:52:48 – Wrap up
Mat Wright has quickly established himself as one of the best trad climbers in Britain and is a world-class all-rounder having climbed E11, 5.14c, and V15. We talked about his humble beginnings in low-income government housing, teaching himself how to rope solo as a teenager, reaching V13 and 5.14c in his first three years of climbing, pivoting to hardcore trad climbing, his upcoming film in the Brit Rock Film Tour, and much more!
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Nuggets:
0:00:00 – Intro/Ads
0:05:35 – Why Mat wears sunglasses when he climbs
0:07:02 – Mat’s difficult upbringing, and growing up in a council estate (low-income government housing)
0:11:41 – Meeting his dad at 13 and moving in with him, and how Mat got himself into rock climbing
0:15:47 – Building a board in his mom’s back garden, and sending 8c+ and 8B (5.14c and V13) within his first 3 years of climbing
0:17:21 – What climbing brought to Mat’s life
0:19:51 – Neil Gresham’s masterclass videos, and setting his eyes on Hubble
0:23:13 – Sending Hubble, and the negative side of punching the clock on projects
0:29:39 – Being optimistic, and why Mat resonates with hard scary trad climbing
0:32:39 – The line between optimism vs. recklessness
0:35:17 – How Mat “caught up” with his education, and the appeal of climbing for someone with a busy mind
0:39:39 – Mat’s partner Anna Taylor, and her role in The House of the Gods film (I said Argentina but it was in Venezuela)
0:41:37 – Coasteering with Anna
0:45:40 – Wildlife, nerding out, and how he and Anna relax
0:47:28 – Living in a van, fingerboarding, and going with the flow with his climbing
0:49:25 – Sprinting toward a goal, and spending 60-70% of his time chilling
0:54:34 – What Mat’s training looked like early on, how it’s evolved over time, and addressing specific weaknesses
0:57:34 – Understanding your climbing pace, and the dance of sport climbing
1:00:24 – How Mat guides his clients with their climbing pace
1:06:19 – Our tendance to overthink things, and not believe in ourselves
1:08:29 – The power of specific goals, and asking yourself what you really want to get out of climbing
1:12:35 – Balancing short-term and long-term goals
1:16:51 – How to get coaching from Mat
1:18:21 – Climbing his first V15 shortly after Hubble, and pivoting to trad and sending Lexicon E11
1:23:03 – The reaction to him sending Lexicon
1:26:27 – Feeling desensitized to exposure, and early free soloing
1:28:24 – The effect that online comments have on real people
1:32:31 – Our brains’ negative bias, and trolling as an outlet for frustration
1:35:21 – Anna’s harassment, and Mat’s controversial reputation
1:40:29 – What happens when you respond to negative comments with kindness
1:42:36 – Stepping into a protective role for his partner, and losing his sponsors
1:44:29 – Mat as a Berghaus athlete
1:49:19 – Mat’s film ‘Hard Git’ in the upcoming Brit Rock Film Tour
1:55:49 – A deep dive into Mat’s FA of Magical Thinking E10, and finding flow on the send
2:01:13 – Mat’s FA of Black Thistle E10, and converting E grades to the American YDS grades
2:04:04 – The animalistic nature of trad, why the Brits don’t bolt everything, and the American healthcare system
2:07:35 – Challenge vs. difficulty
2:10:26 – James Pearson as the best trad climber in the world, and Mat’s kinship to Dave MacLeod
2:12:25 – Mat and I each talk about our experiences trying the keto diet
2:16:18 – I recap my story with disordered eating and recovery, and Mat describes his experience with burnout after Hubble
2:22:05 – What happened with Rhapsody, and his thoughts on returning
2:27:21 – Mat’s rope solo setup
2:29:43 – Go-to music
2:30:15 – Mat’s dream climbing expedition, the adventure and fun of climbing, and sending Gaia E8
2:34:46 – Think more about yourself and less about other people
2:35:44 – Cycle touring, and Mat’s thoughts on taking long breaks from climbing
2:42:36 – Where to connect with Mat, and details about the upcoming Brit Rock Film Tour
Alex Biale is an elite boulderer based in CO. We talked about his family legacy of bootlegging wine in Napa Valley, how he got into climbing, his legendary training with Jon Glassberg, pushing himself to the breaking point to send V14, seriously injuring his knee, working with Ollie Torr to overhaul his style and become stronger than ever, the keys to a balanced and happy life, and much more!
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Nuggets:
0:00:00 – Intro/Ads
0:05:34 – Steak and wine
0:06:16 – Alex’s connection to the Jon Glassberg and Ollie Torr episodes
0:07:37 – Alex’s upbringing in Napa, his family legacy of bootlegging wine, and the origin story of Black Chicken
0:12:21 – Working in the vineyard as a kid, and growing up surrounded by family
0:15:36 – Alex’s dad, and doing family backpacking trips to Tahoe
0:20:02 – Getting into climbing
0:21:59 – Parallels to the Josh Champion episode, looking up to CA climbers, getting into highballing, and putting V13 and V1 4 on a pedestal
0:31:01 – Training with Jon Glassberg
0:35:11 – Sending Mind to Motion V14, breaking from the training, and feeling lost after achieving his goal
0:39:59 – Climbing classic V8s in Leavenworth, rediscovering his love for climbing, and adopting a beginners mindset
0:47:58 – History, aesthetics, the amount of climbing in CO, and redefining challenge
0:51:56 – Desiring to become a well-rounded climber
0:58:23 – What gets people stuck, and being honest about what you want from climbing
1:03:20 – Combining strengths and weaknesses
1:09:32 – The perfect storm of training with Jon
1:13:20 – Playing the long game, and drawing inspiration from Martin Keller
1:17:33 – Why you shouldn’t train like a pro climber (unless you’re a pro climber)
1:22:50 – The advice Alex got from Will Anglin, and climbing with rules
1:34:42 – Why Alex hired Ollie Torr to coach him
1:45:43 – What’s different about training with Ollie on a principle level
1:52:24 – Injurying his knee, and transforming his climbing style
2:00:26 – The keys to staying consistent with climbing and training, and the value of a spray wall
2:16:12 – The keys to staying on top of things at work, and Alex’s business ventures
2:23:47 – Carrying a load, hitting rock bottom, and adding value
2:31:26 – The keys to maintaining a healthy relationship
2:37:59 – Wrap up, and very kind words from Alex about the podcast
Jesse Firestone is back on the podcast! We talked about his injury this spring and finding silver linings, why he focused more on weight training than climbing this summer, shifting his priorities to spending more time on projects, biggest lessons from the past three years of coaching, Adam Ondra’s hip flexibility, how to become more flexible through climbing, why visualization is an excellent use of your time, and much more!
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Show Notes:
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Nuggets:
0:00:00 – Intro/Ads
0:05:53 – Jesse’s Winter and Spring season, his wrist injury, and his trip to Fontainebleau
0:11:53 – Losing muscle, falling into our own pitfalls, and a sales pitch for having a coach
0:15:45 – Stoic philosophy, finding the silver lining, and why Jesse climbed a lot less than usual over the summer
0:18:49 – Being stubborn about rock climbing, and plans to balance that with more weight lifting
0:20:32 – Why Jesse is moving toward less volume and more projecting
0:25:31 – Work capacity
0:29:48 – My summer trip, and what I would do the same vs differently to prepare next time
0:34:22 – Chasing the highs, and the reset of a bad injury
0:37:29 – Being content with not sending my project in Rocklands, and Jesse and I talk about struggling to find inspiration there
0:43:53 – What I’ve realized about active rest days in Rocklands
0:47:57 – Why Jesse didn’t set any goals on paper in 2023
0:49:57 – Thai
0:51:25 – How Jesse’s coaching business has evolved, and how he uses Instagram
0:56:03 – “A good coach knows when to be a window and when to be a mirror.”
0:56:33 – Lessons from Jesse’s first few years of coaching
1:05:23 – How coaching has led him to being a more compassionate person
1:08:43 – Summary of coaching lessons
1:09:33 – Intent vs. content of training
1:12:55 – Adam Ondra’s hip flexibility, writing a book, and how to improve flexibility through climbing
1:22:10 – Having a positive attitude about your flexibility
1:29:55 – 3 benefits of visualization for climbers
1:39:53 – The nuts and bolts of visualization
1:46:47 – Jesse puts his coach hat on and encourages me to climb faster
1:51:47 – Visualization for onsighting, and Adam Ondra’s onsight of Just Do It
1:54:20 – Wrap up
Josh Champion is an MD and elite boulderer based in Portland, Oregon. Josh and I hung out in 2017 during my infamous Bishop trip. Since then he moved to Colorado for residency, got even stronger, and then quit climbing shortly after sending his first three V13s. We talked about why he quit for three years, how he improved his relationship with climbing, helpful books, building Just Beta, and much more!
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Nuggets:
0:00:00 – Intro/Ads
0:03:51 – Intermittent fasting, Josh’s “salad”, and diet soda in the morning
0:07:15 – Reminiscing about the 2017 Bishop trip, Josh’s send of Mandala, and clarifying the timing of my journey with disordered eating
0:12:07 – What happened to Josh after the 2017 trip, and moving to Colorado for residency
0:17:55 – How the pandemic affected his work, and sending his first three V13s
0:19:28 – Putting V13 on a pedestal
0:23:51 – Expectations vs reality of achieving a goal
0:26:21 – Delayed gratification vs learning how to enjoy the process
0:27:52 – Josh and I explore what drives us to pursue goals, and pure inspiration vs seeking approval from others
0:33:41 – Why Josh quit climbing
0:36:16 – What it felt like to quit, filling the gap, and creating BetaCache
0:42:35 – Finding a new physical outlet, and his mindset shift after being away from climbing
0:47:27 – Discovering who you are without climbing
0:49:34 – Not missing climbing, Josh’s antagonistic climbing friendship, and being free from comparison
0:52:48 – What brought him back to climbing
0:55:41 – Working on his relationship with climbing
1:01:14 – The Zen of Climbing
1:07:22 – Inner balance and friction
1:09:48 – Feeling cautious but optimistic, and shifting the emphasis
1:11:52 – Trying Woods Climb in Red Rocks, and plans for his upcoming trip to Moe’s Valley
1:16:34 – Meeting Jonathan Siegrist, starting to climb because we enjoyed it, and when that shifted for Josh
1:23:43 – Seeking challenge is healthy until you start putting numbers on it
1:27:44 – Treating climbing like a martial art or a craft
1:30:28 – Finding satisfaction and accomplishment in the process
1:31:44 – Josh’s thoughts about trying hard projects in the future
1:34:29 – Letting go of needing to check climbs off the list
1:37:27 – What inner work looks like, and Josh’s claim to fame
1:41:31 – The value of learning lessons the hard way
1:44:19 – Realizing you are not alone
1:45:54 – Why Josh created BetaCache, and the updated version JustBeta.net
This full episode is available for Patrons right now! Martin Keller is back on the podcast! We met up in Magic Wood over the summer and recorded another great conversation. We talked about his send of Gateway V16/8C+, using video review to make breakthroughs, why you shouldn’t spend 50+ days on a project as he does, gaining 13 kgs to send his hardest boulder, his simple training routine, how he is still getting stronger at 45, and Martin gave me feedback and advice on my climbing.
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Lily Kral is the owner of Boardworks in Bend, Oregon. We talked about her childhood and her mother’s struggle with addiction, being hospitalized for an eating disorder, exotic dancing her way through college, finding an identity as a strong climber, why she decided to build a board climbing gym, biggest challenges, burning the candle at both ends, being a work in progress, training for 5.14 at Smith Rock, and much more!
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Nuggets:
0:04:13 – Lily sets the scene
0:06:46 – Minimalist vs. mooch
0:08:50 – Lily’s childhood, her mom’s struggle with addiction, and seeking control
0:14:48 – Hussling vegetable at 10 years old
0:16:55 – Feeling unpopular in high school, wanting external validation, and being hospitalized for an eating disorder
0:21:17 – Exotic dancing in college
0:26:20 – The stigma around exotic dancing, and more about Lily’s experience in that world
0:33:46 – Type 1 vs type 2 thinking
0:36:15 – Coming out of retirement for a weekend
0:38:08 – Her time as a full-time route setter, burning the candle at both ends, and existing in fight or flight
0:40:53 – Moving to LA to become a head route setter
0:43:44 – Issues with substances, and how Lily was able to stay sober as a dancer
0:46:25 – Building Boardworks, and where the idea came from
0:52:16 – Why she chose Bend for her first location
0:57:14 – The Boardworks model, and what makes it special and unique
1:06:14 – The biggest challenges of opening and running a gym
1:11:02 – Delegation, and letting go of control
1:15:34 – More unforeseen challenges, and annoying questions from people who assume your work is easy
1:20:22 – Email
1:25:26 – Portaling
1:26:55 – The discomfort of feeling flaky, and practicing radical honesty
1:30:23 – Wanting the invite, keeping our options open, and how texting has made us flaky
1:32:08 – What Lily wishes she had known about marketing, and why construction is always behind schedule
1:35:56 – Undervaluing design and aesthetics
1:38:13 – Tying her identity to how hard she’s climbing
1:41:32 – Being a work in progress with disordered eating, and obsessive and compulsive behaviors in climbers
1:50:47 – Unpacking why we want to climb 5.14
1:56:12 – My thoughts on trying Badman again at Smith Rock, and climbing hard and being happy at the same time
1:59:40 – Lily’s thoughts on board training for Smith Rock
2:01:53 – Doing weighted pullups on a hangboard, and training endurance for To Bolt or Not To Be (first 5.14a in America)
2:06:26 – Working on getting validation from herself, and bringing more energy to other parts of her life
2:08:46 – Being in the present moment
2:10:34 – Having more grace for others and for ourselves
2:12:31 – Follow @boardworks_climbing on Instagram
Joey Jannsen and Rich Breuner are the founders of Ocelot Grips. We talked about their “why” for starting a climbing hold company, why the small details matter, how to make dual tex, why you can’t buy their holds online, building relationships with your customers, being fans of sports, the future of indoor climbing, the entrepreneurial spirit, producing underground hip-hop concerts, cage fighting, and much more!
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Nuggets:
0:04:20 – Soundcheck and bevies
0:05:30 – Rich talks about producing underground hip-hop shows during the summers in college
0:09:08 – Joey talks about cage fighting
0:11:53 – My background in manufacturing climbing holds, and our conversation six years ago about their idea for Ocelot
0:14:05 – Why they decided to outsource their production
0:15:37 – Joey’s background in route setting and shaping
0:18:52 – Joey’s “why” for starting Ocelot Grips
0:22:06 – Rich’s “why” for starting Ocelot Grips, and his background in business operations and management
0:24:53 – Expressing your identity through business
0:26:15 – The Hedgehog concept
0:28:12 – Why they chose the name Ocelot
0:29:09 – How The Nugget got its name
0:33:08 – What sets Ocelot apart from other brands, and the Shade Theory series
0:38:56 – Having a flavor
0:40:55 – Wanting to be involved in the setting community
0:44:47 – Why you can’t buy Ocelot holds online
0:48:50 – Getting feedback
0:51:53 – Attention to detail
0:56:26 – How you do something is how you do everything
0:56:58 – Ocelot’s manufacturing partner Peak Performance Polymers
1:00:23 – Joey’s dual tex process, and how climbing holds are made
1:05:29 – The logo
1:07:05 – The business planning phase, processing orders, and learning as you go
1:09:33 – Biggest challenges, and building Ocelot as a side hustle
1:11:46 – Bluey
1:12:40 – How far they’ve come, and what it will take for Ocelot to be their full-time jobs
1:15:48 – Making career choices to maximize time
1:18:40 – Where to climb on Ocelot holds, and gratitude
1:21:38 – Joey describes the four current families of Ocelot holds
1:25:38 – Wanting to see their holds in competitions
1:29:54 – Being sports fans, and being excited about where climbing is heading
1:38:45 – Novel moves in competitions
1:41:15 – Putting on more than 50 competitions
1:44:11 – Joey shares a few nuggets for route setters (relevant for creative people)
1:54:01 – Rich shares a few nuggets about business
2:01:48 – Where to find Ocelot, and wrap up
Stefanie Myr is the head route setter, manager, and team coach at Climb Tacoma in WA. We met up in Leavenworth and talked about our similar upbringings in Christianity, why we both moved away from religion, finding “church” in the climbing community, confidence and self-belief, unique challenges as a short climber, being less certain and more curious, Stef’s polyamorous relationship with her husband and partner, compersion, honest communication, doing what you can to make the world a little better, and much more!
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Nuggets:
0:04:05 – Miniature carpentry, and a gift for me
0:11:49 – Stef role at Climb Tacoma, and the gym as a core part of her community
1:17:19 – How she first got a job at Climb Tacoma, and having a diverse group of people on the team
0:20:16 – Stef’s unique financial situation, and the sustainability of working at a climbing gym
0:22:38 – Moving away from her Christian upbringing, and finding “church” at the climbing gym
0:25:09 – Our parallels with church music and moving away from organized religion
0:30:31 – Bullet point lists, and how the gym functions like a “church”
0:32:07 – Meeting people who changed the way we thought about organized religion
0:35:16 – Stef’s upbringing and programming, and not realizing she was bisexual until college
0:38:39 – Stef’s husband Julien
0:40:34 – Stef’s confidence, choosing Giant Man as an objective, and gaining something from every climb
0:46:17 – Frustration with height and grades, and needing to be V12 strong to climb V10
0:48:02 – My conversation with Nic Rummel about grades, and an announcement about the Patron show being on Spotify
0:51:19 – Sending Pimpsqueak V8/9 in Leavenworth, ABR (always be rolling), and why recording send videos feels important
0:56:02 – The power of seeing someone like you climb hard things
1:00:42 – More about confidence, embracing powerful moves, learning from coaching little kids, and unlocking pieces of the puzzle
1:08:18 – The moments that show you that you’ve gotten better at climbing, and Stef’s mountain
1:10:23 – Stef’s dream boulder in Goldbar WA, and other goals in Leavenworth
1:12:01 – How Stef got on The Nugget
1:21:52 – Self-belief, wanting to be good, and the power of affirmation
1:26:17 – Our brain’s reaction to negative comments, and how Stef deals with trolls
1:38:02 – The lawyer in my brain, and making people think differently by asking better questions
1:39:51 – Less certain more curious
1:42:47 – Stef’s polyamorous relationship, and why she wanted to talk about it
1:50:50 – Normalizing sex, and redefining cheating in an open relationship
1:56:18 – Equating sex and intimacy to love, how cool her husband is, and the story of how she came to be with her partner
2:03:22 – Jealousy, and honest communication
2:05:32 – Why Stef wanted to talk about her open relationship, and why people who are poly are not free-for-alls
2:09:53 – Bringing all of who you are to yourself as a climber
2:11:53 – Compersion
2:15:11 – The depth of her relationship with her husband before they opened their relationship, and the distinction between security and trust
2:17:53 – Marriage, and Stef’s future with her partner
2:24:47 – Double the love and laundry, and Stef’s life in a go bag
2:26:50 – Check-ins, RADAR, smoking weed, and “ask don’t assume”
2:32:23 – Double-committing, and learning to communicate her plans
2:39:18 – What Stef wishes people spent more time thinking about
2:41:10 – Make the world a little better
2:42:20 – My episode with Ethan Pringle about his dad, and the importance of airing out the messiness
2:47:35 – Stef’s sponsors
2:51:08 – Pursuing the child-free life, and final thoughts
In this short episode, I correct a mistake from my latest episode with Katie Lamb and talk about the four women who have climbed V15. Thanks to Katharina for bringing this to my attention, and all the respect and admiration to Ashima Shiraishi, Kaddi Lehmann, Mishka Ishi, and Oriane Bertone. You are legends!