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    The New Evangelicals Podcast

    The New Evangelicals Podcast invites you into bold, thought-provoking conversations at the intersection of faith, politics, and justice. Each week our host, Tim Whitaker, speaks with pastors, theologians, scholars, and cultural leaders who are challenging the status quo, confronting Christian Nationalism, and imagining a more inclusive and just world.

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    229. What Comes After The White Evangelical Church? // Sarah McCammon Mar 11, 2024
    Show notes

    Sarah McCammon discusses her book, The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living and Leaving the White Evangelical Church, and her personal journey of leaving the white evangelical church. She explores the reasons for writing the book and the motivations behind the exvangelical movement.



    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    01:05 Motivation for Writing the Book

    04:31 Reasons for Leaving the Evangelical Church

    10:07 Themes Explored in the Book

    17:31 Understanding Evangelicalism in the Media

    33:39 Debunking the Notion of Exvangelicals as Anti-Religion

    40:22 The Rise of Protestantism

    42:45 The Impact of the Internet

    45:30 A Shift in Evangelicalism

    48:02 The Weaponization of Religion

    48:58 Empathy and Understanding

    Read The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living and Leaving the White Evangelical Church by Sarah McCammon

    Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community!

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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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    228. The Surprising New Data on Christian Nationalism // Tim Whitaker Mar 08, 2024
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    Summary

    In this episode, Tim delves into the PRRI data on Christian nationalism, highlighting the percentage of Americans who adhere to or reject Christian nationalist views. Tim explores the geographical breakdown of Christian nationalism support, its correlation with political affiliation, and the interpretation of Christian nationalism in the black community.

    Takeaways

    Christian nationalism is supported by approximately 30% of Americans, with 10% being adherents and 20% being sympathizers.

    Support for Christian nationalism is higher in Republican-leaning states and among white evangelical Protestants.

    Black Christian nationalists interpret the five statements used to measure Christian nationalist views differently, focusing on the fight for equity rather than taking over and using power to control others.

    Christian nationalism is correlated with support for Trump, far-right news sources, and apocalyptic views of political struggle.

    Engaging with adherents of Christian nationalism may be challenging, but there may be opportunities to persuade sympathizers.


    Read the PRRI Study on Christina Nationalism

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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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    227. The Deconstruction of Christianity? A Book Review // Thomas Jay Oord Mar 06, 2024
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    Summary

    In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Thomas Jay Oord discuss the book 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' by Alisa Childers and Tim Barnett. They explore themes such as the concept of objective truth, the ambiguity of scripture, the role of subjectivity in interpretation, the problem of selective objectivity, the complexity of biblical interpretation, the inconsistencies in fundamentalist Christian beliefs, reasons for deconstruction, the inadequate responses to deconstruction, the contradictions in the authors' arguments, the flawed application of a modernist lens, the need for a standard outside of scripture, and the logical conclusion of Jesus' divinity. This conversation explores the problematic arguments presented in the book 'Why I Still Believe' by Tim Barnett and J. P. Moreland. The hosts discuss the weak arguments for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him. They also critique the book's emphasis on unquestioning biblical authority and the role of humans in interpreting the Bible. The conversation delves into the fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life. The hosts highlight the problematic labeling of deconstructors as "captured" and the either/or approach to love. Thomas Oord also discussed his upcoming book on deconstruction and offers a different perspective on the topic.

    Takeaways

    The concept of objective truth and the role of subjectivity in interpretation are crucial in understanding deconstruction.

    The ambiguity of scripture and the complexities of biblical interpretation challenge the idea of a singular, objective truth.

    The authors' arguments in 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' often lack consistency and fail to address the complexities and nuances of the issues they discuss.

    The need for a standard outside of scripture and the recognition of the fruit of beliefs are important considerations in evaluating the validity of certain theological claims.

    The conversation highlights the ongoing challenges and debates surrounding deconstruction and the search for certainty in matters of faith. The arguments presented in 'Why I Still Believe' for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him are weak and unconvincing.

    Questioning biblical authority does not equate to deconstructing it, and it is important to recognize the role of humans in interpreting the Bible.

    The fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life can hinder the process of deconstruction.

    Love should not be reduced to standing for truth or empathy alone, but should aim for overall well-being and flourishing.

    There is a need for a book that offers guidance and support to friends and parents of deconstructors, helping them navigate the process with empathy and understanding.


    Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community!

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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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    226. How Relationships Change Everything // BIll Yoh Mar 04, 2024
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    Summary

    Bill Yoh, a member of one of America's wealthiest families, shares his journey from the business world to working in nonprofit and faith-based spaces. Bill emphasizes the importance of faith becoming the central part of life and using his privilege to serve the underserved.

    Takeaways

    Engaging in dialogue and civil discourse is essential for bridging the division in society.

    Faith can be integrated into business through servant leadership and ensuring just wages for employees.

    Mission trips can challenge preconceived notions and provide opportunities for personal growth and service.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    02:51 Turning Point: Mom's Passing and Faith Awakening

    06:08 Moments of Awakening: Overseas Mission Trip and Pandemic

    09:01 Faith Transformation and Division in Society

    14:56 Faith in Business and Reconciling Wealth

    21:01 Mission Trips and Challenging Perceptions

    22:34 Providing Food and Building Relationships

    26:12 Charity vs. Systemic Change

    30:26 Ministry and Evangelism

    34:22 Philanthropy and Working with People of Means

    39:37 Best Cheesesteak in Philly

    Read Bill Yoh's Book: Unvarnished Faith

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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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    225. The BIGGEST Factor in the 2024 Election? Mar 01, 2024
    Show notes

    Andrew Whitehead joins Tim to talk about the brand new PRRI data on Christian Nationalism and how it will impact this year's 2024 election.


    Read the report here

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    224. Targeted By Libs of TikTok! // Billie Hoard Feb 28, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Billie Hoard discuss recent cases of violence against trans people and the hostile environment they face. They highlight the controversial mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral and the case of Next Benedict, a non-binary teenager who died after being bullied. They also explore the role of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust in perpetuating discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community. The conversation emphasizes the power of disgust in fueling fascism and the social spread of disgust. This conversation explores the concept of disgust and its impact on society, particularly in relation to the LGBTQ+ community. It highlights the contrast between Jesus' acceptance and the Christian disgust towards queer individuals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of the gospel as good news and the need to transform disgust into love and acceptance. It also discusses the power of love and intimacy in decreasing disgust reactions. The conversation delves into the dangers of accounts like Libs of TikTok and the real-world consequences they can have, as demonstrated by Billie's personal experience. Billie shares her personal experience of facing false accusations and a targeted campaign to remove her from her teaching position. The conversation also discusses the misrepresentation of video footage and the dangerous consequences of stigmatizing safe spaces for LGBTQ+ students. The role of Haya, the creator of Libs of TikTok, in shaping educational policies is examined, highlighting the lack of expertise and integrity in her involvement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of standing against Christian nationalism and advocating for comprehensive sex education and queer rights.

    Takeaways

    The intersection of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust contributes to the marginalization of the LGBTQ+ community.

    Addressing the systemic issues that perpetuate violence and discrimination against trans people requires challenging and dismantling Christian nationalist ideologies. Disgust can be a harmful emotion when it is directed towards individuals or groups, particularly the LGBTQ+ community.

    The gospel should be driving Christians towards inclusion and acceptance, rather than disgust and rejection.

    Love and intimacy have the power to decrease disgust reactions and foster understanding and acceptance.

    The misrepresentation of video footage can be used to stigmatize and harm LGBTQ+ individuals and their safe spaces.

    It is crucial to stand against Christian nationalism and advocate for comprehensive sex education and the rights of queer individuals.

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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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    223. Living Undivided, Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice // Chuck Mingo and Troy Jackson Feb 26, 2024
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    Summary

    Chuck Mingo and Troy Jackson discuss their book, Living Undivided: Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice, and the work they do with Undivided, a nonprofit organization focused on racial justice. They emphasize the importance of relationships, community, and personal transformation in the pursuit of racial healing and justice especially within the church.


    Takeaways

    The church has a crucial role to play in countering white Christian nationalism and fostering racial healing and justice.

    Empowering people and helping them move from feeling powerless to claiming power and community is essential for justice.

    Understanding power and its potential for manipulation and abuse is crucial in the pursuit of racial justice.

    Moving past debates and taking action is more important than dissecting words and terms.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Background

    03:42 The Journey to Undivided

    06:26 What is Undivided?

    08:22 Challenges in Bridging the Gap

    19:25 The Role of the Church

    25:20 The Power of Relationships

    33:03 What is Living Undivided about?

    37:08 Pragmatic Approaches to Change

    40:13 The Role of the Church in Racial Injustice

    42:31 Understanding Power and its Abuses

    42:50 Resistance to Change in Church Contexts

    44:18 Creating a Space for Courageous Leadership

    45:15 Moving Past Debates and Taking Action

    46:15 Racial Healing and Demonstrating the Way of Jesus

    47:34 The Future of White Evangelicalism

    49:43 Opportunities and Risks in Faith Communities

    50:22 Connecting with the Undivided Movement


    Read Living Undivided: Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice

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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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    222. The Rise and Fall of the Christian Music Industry // Leah Payne, PhD. Feb 19, 2024
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    Summary

    In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Leah Payne, PhD. discuss her book, God Gave Rock and Roll to You, that outlines the origins and impact of contemporary Christian music (CCM). They explore the power of music in religious experiences and the potential for manipulation in revivalist moments as well as the complicated relationship with problematic artists and the ethical dilemma of singing their songs.


    Takeaways

    Contemporary Christian music (CCM) has a diverse range of genres and subgenres, making it difficult to define and categorize.

    The use of music in political and nationalist movements can be both inspiring and concerning, as it can rally people around a cause.

    The Christian music market has become more complex, with different subgroups of

    genres.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and New Year's Recap

    06:25 The Book: God Gave Rock and Roll to You

    09:15 The Origins of Contemporary Christian Music

    22:23 The Manipulative Potential of Revivalist Moments

    25:21 The Use of Music in Political and Nationalist Movements

    29:25 The Complicated Relationship with Problematic Artists

    36:30 Navigating the Ethical Dilemma of Singing Problematic Songs

    41:28 The Rise of Worship Bands

    43:04 The Impact of the Internet on Christian Music

    56:06 The Influence of Aesthetics on Evangelical Culture

    59:39 The Decline of Christian Bookstores

    01:02:28 Where to Find Leah Payne


    Read Leah Payne's Book: God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music

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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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    221. He Gets Us, Evangelicals Don't Get Him // Tim Whitaker Feb 16, 2024
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    In this episode, Tim shares his thoughts on the He Gets Us Super Bowl commercial.

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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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    220. Women's Suffrage Was a Net... LOSS?! // Sheila Gregoire and Dr. Beth Allison Barr Feb 14, 2024
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    Summary

    Dr. Nancy Pearcey, author of 'The Toxic War on Masculinity' claimed in a recent podcast interview that women’s suffrage was a net loss and that Christian marriages are healthier than their non-christian counterparts. Tim brings on Sheila Gregoire, author of 'The Great Sex Rescue' along with Dr. Beth Allison Barr, author of 'The Making of Biblical Womanhood' to respond.


    A followup from Dr. Beth Allison Barr


    Resources

    - Susan Ware, Why They Marched: Untold Stories of the Women Who Fought for the Right to Vote (Cambridge, MA: The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press)

    - Anita Anand, Sophia: Princess, Suffragette, Revolutionary (New York: Bloomsbury)

    - Manuela Thurner, “’Better Citizens without the Ballot’: American AntiSuffrage Women and Their Rationale During the Progressive Era,” Journal of Women’s History 5:1 (Spring 1993), 33-60

    - Hallie Rubenhold, The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper (New York: Mariner Books An Imprint of HarperCollins)

    - Martha S. Jones, Vanguard: How Black Women Broke Barriers, Won the Vote, and Insisted on Equality for All (New York: Basic Books)


    Websites

    - https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/07/07/a-century-after-women-gained-the-right-to-vote-majority-of-americans-see-work-to-do-on-gender-equality/

    - https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/votes-women-means-votes-black-women

    - https://www.nps.gov/articles/anti-suffragism-in-the-united-states.htm#_edn33

    - https://www.crusadeforthevote.org/naows-opposition#:~:text=Some%20argued%20women%20lacked%20the,By%20Allison%20Lange%2C%20Ph


    Also

    - Susan Ware, American Women’s Suffrage: Voices from the Long Struggle for the Vote, 1776-1965 (New York: Penguin Random House)

    - Rosalyn Terborg-Penn, African American Women in the Struggle for the Vote, 1850-1920 (Bloomington: Indiana University Press)

    - Ellen Carol Dubois, Suffrage: Women’s Long Battle for the Vote (New York: Simon & Schuster)


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    The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!

    We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here!

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