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    Music

    The Music Stuff Show

    Hosted by Earth’s #1 online session drummer Tom DuPree III and musician/creative consultant Vance Fite, The Music Stuff Show is a music business podcast dedicated to breaking down the business of music to help you build a career doing what you love.

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    How To Not Suck At Communication May 03, 2018
    Show notes

    This week, we break down the many ways you might use to connect with your audience. We discuss the role communication plays in growing your business, delve into the role storytelling plays in your creative work, and we examine a few real-world scenarios for creating relationships that are centered around your brand.

    Don't forget to rate and review the show!

    Links from the Episode:

    • Eminem - Without Me
    • Tushy Bidet
    • Bazzi
    • Tim Ferriss

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsor [0:12]
    • Episode overview [0:59]
    • Killer Whales and Moose [6:04]
    • How to not suck at communication [9:18]
    • Through your art, you are communicating something [10:12]
    • Your life is going to interact with other people [11:38]
    • Most people would like to live a confrontation free lifestyle [15:24]
    • The sooner you deliver bad news, the better it is for everyone [16:21]
    • Effective communication breeds trust [17:49]
    • Disappointment rolls downhill because you were scared [22:59]
    • It's important to reply even if you're the one receiving bad news [24:45]
    • Help further the culture of good communication in the music industry [25:36]
    • Pick up the phone [25:43]
    • Written text is not going to solve things nearly as quickly as picking up the phone [27:08]
    • You give people the opportunity to clear things up by having a conversation [28:08]
    • We have a bad habit of writing people off as a community when things don't go perfectly [28:57]
    • Loyalty is an important trait that is far too often overlooked in the music business [30:03]
    • If you over-book yourself you're not going to give your best work [31:57]
    • Don't take work that you're not a good fit for [33:47]
    • When the community thrives, you thrive [35:49]
    • You can play the same song to 100 different people, and they'll tell you it sounds like 100 different artists [40:36]
    • You can't over-communicate on the front end [41:54]
    • Don't be afraid to ask questions [43:27]
    • Don't be the spam commenter [47:59]
    • Be purposeful in your communication [48:29]
    • Don't overthink it when it comes to a newsletter [56:05]
    • Outro [1:02:53]

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops, your weekly curated drum loop library. If you're writing music, building tracks, or programming beats, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They deliver 10 new drum loops directly to your inbox every Monday so you can spend less time searching for the right sounds and more time making music. Each loop is always available in stereo and multitrack formats, always fresh, and they never recycled. And for a limited time, they are offering a seven-day free trial period with every plan. So visit DupeLoops.com and start your free trial today to receive 10 new multi-tracked drum loops per week, every week.

    Special thanks to Nashville based illustrator Bobby St. Louis for creating the artwork for The Music Stuff Show!


    Branding Yourself Apr 26, 2018
    Show notes

    This week, we take a look at what it means to brand yourself. We discuss how you can create a personal brand, the relationship your brand has to the product it represents, and we present some helpful ways to put these lessons into effect.

    Don't forget to rate and review the show!

    Links from the Episode:

    • Brandon Pugglesworth
    • Christmas Coke Commercial
    • Stranger Things
    • Tom DeLonge - Pursuit of Tone
    • Mike Shinoda - Post Traumatic EP

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsor [0:12]
    • Show Overview [0:59]
    • Branding yourself [2:43]
    • Brandon Pugglesworth [3:11]
    • What is branding? [3:24]
    • If I don't tell you what you're looking at, do you know who did it? [4:19]
    • The best brands, I don't have to tell you who it is [5:02]
    • Every part can't be a lead [7:42]
    • The more people you put in your band, the more simple everybody's parts have to be [7:58]
    • Nickelback is easy to hate, but they still sell out arenas [9:33]
    • Your product or your experience is going to end up defining branding your image, not the other way around [10:54]
    • What's the point of branding? [12:22]
    • Branding is important because you are trying to build trust with your audience [12:35]
    • What is the fastest way for someone to know, "Oh, I know I trust this brand" [14:07]
    • In a word, it boils down to trust [14:28]
    • When you create trust in your audience, you don't have to reestablish it every time you do something new [14:37]
    • The 20-minute rule [15:21]
    • "He and his team have branded him so effectively that you actually second guess your own opinion because you trust that that brand is correct over your opinion of what he is putting out" [16:29]
    • How would one go about branding themselves? [17:00]
    • The more songs you write, the more you find out who you are as a group [17:39]
    • Keep it simple when it comes to branding [19:56]
    • It doesn't really matter what it is, so long as it's always the same thing [22:47]
    • You want people to see you and be like, "Is that that dude or chick from XYZ band?" [23:57]
    • Blink-182 and simplicity [26:19]
    • If you're not the face of your band, don't waste your time being butthurt about that [28:18]
    • Don't have an ego [28:49]
    • Singles are king [31:24]
    • As long as you have a plan, you can change the approach and the sound as much as you want [34:01]
    • Any time is a good time to experiment as an artist [34:15]
    • We celebrate actors that are capable of embracing so many different roles [39:35]
    • Your band can play a character within your brand per release [42:02]
    • Your product defines your branding, not the other way around [43:46]
    • Outro [44:17]

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops, your weekly curated drum loop library. If you're writing music, building tracks, or programming beats, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They deliver 10 new drum loops directly to your inbox every Monday so you can spend less time searching for the right sounds and more time making music. Each loop is always available in stereo and multitrack formats, always fresh, and they never recycled. And for a limited time, they are offering a seven-day free trial period with every plan. So visit DupeLoops.com and start your free trial today to receive 10 new multi-tracked drum loops per week, every week.

    Special thanks to Nashville based illustrator Bobby St. Louis for creating the artwork for The Music Stuff Show!


    How To Get Started As A Producer Apr 19, 2018
    Show notes

    This week, we look at how you can create a career as a producer in the music business. We look at the role a producer plays, discuss what the job title really means, and examine some steps you can take to build the career that you want.

    Don't forget to rate and review the show!

    Links from the Episode:

    • The Gear Episode
    • GarageBand
    • GarageBand Alternatives for Android
    • Yousician
    • Teoria
    • EQ Frequency Chart and Breakdown
    • The Making of Post Malone's "rockstar" with Tank God | Deconstructed

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsor [0:12]
    • Episode Overview [0:59]
    • Never second guess yourself [2:44]
    • How to get started as a music producer [2:53]
    • The sweetest revenge is just destroying life after high school [5:10]
    • You are there to bring out all the potential the song has [8:13]
    • Make the song the best version it can be by being the leader [8:21]
    • It takes a specific type of mind to be able to pick apart your own creative work and separate yourself enough to make objective decisions about the final product [11:17]
    • Not everybody can be a producer [11:34]
    • Figure out what it is you want to make and start making it [12:58
    • If you don't know what to do with four buttons on your phone, what could you possibly know how to do with $100,000 worth of gear and a wall of knobs [14:56]
    • The hardest part is figuring out the right question to ask [18:11]
    • Your ears are your most important tool [18:57]
    • If you do want to produce, you will be greatly benefited if you play an instrument [26:40]
    • It's really difficult if you don't speak the language [27:14]
    • An idea is worthless if you can't make it a reality [27:51]
    • You want efficiency, not because you're uptight. Efficiency is awesome because then you can just walk in and create. [33:01]
    • You gotta keep people hyped. You've gotta keep people's eye on the end goal of, "This is gonna be an incredible song!" [40:19]
    • You don't have to get hung up on the things that aren't perfect because there's going to be plenty of things that aren't perfect [46:06]
    • The most important thing you can have is content to showcase your skills [47:12]
    • Take it a day at a time, take it a step at a time and get incrementally better each and every time [49:48]
    • Show up to get 1% better every day [49:56]
    • Outro [50:12]

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops, your weekly curated drum loop library. If you're writing music, building tracks, or programming beats, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They deliver 10 new drum loops directly to your inbox every Monday so you can spend less time searching for the right sounds and more time making music. Each loop is always available in stereo and multitrack formats, always fresh, and they never recycled. And for a limited time, they are offering a seven-day free trial period with every plan. So visit DupeLoops.com and start your free trial today to receive 10 new multi-tracked drum loops per week, every week.

    Special thanks to Nashville based illustrator Bobby St. Louis for creating the artwork for The Music Stuff Show!


    Screw Your Gear Apr 11, 2018
    Show notes

    This week, we examine the role your gear truly plays in your business and in your career. We present some compelling arguments in support of the "less is more" philosophy, look at some out of the box ways to access the tools you need, and we discuss why waiting on the right equipment before you move forward is never the right play.

    Don't forget to rate and review the show!

    Links from the Episode:

    • The Boring Company
    • Music Pro Insurance
    • Matt Kass
    • Luke Holland
    • Matt McGuire
    • Casey Cooper
    • SIR

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsor [0:12]
    • Episode Overview [0:58]
    • The Boring Company [1:57]
    • The Gear Talk [8:59]
    • Don't have the mentality of, "I can't get started until I have 'x'" [9:51]
    • There is no barrier to creativity anymore [9:59]
    • Just because they have that, doesn't mean they need that [12:56]
    • The way to have a career doing what you love is to maximize your revenue and minimize your overhead [14:30]
    • "I see all you Craigslist commandos out there" [14:47]
    • An instrument is just a tool [16:01]
    • Whatever gear you have should be insured [17:26]
    • Matt Kass [19:24]
    • Invest into developing the visual presence of your brand [22:47]
    • YouTube Drummers [23:17]
    • If people don't know that you're great at what you do, and don't know that you're out there doing it, how can they hire you? [24:06]
    • If you can be the person that saves the day in a last minute situation, you'll never stop getting called after that day [24:54]
    • You can rent the gear you want [27:29]
    • Take advantage of your network [31:04]
    • Butch Walker [32:35]
    • People's thinking is "Oh if they have money, they must be successful", which is a lie [33:47]
    • Sustaining yourself at your craft trumps having what's available and right for the song from a gear perspective [34:20]
    • Get good at using the tools that you currently have available to you [35:36]
    • Guys like Tom Brady show up to get 1% better [37:22]
    • Even people whose brand is built on partying, don't party as much as you think they do [38:55]
    • People are going to come to you for the experience, not because of your guitar collection [41:19]
    • Gear is not bad, but if you're using as a crutch to not hit publish, that's bad [43:52]
    • The only limitation to not creating consistent income as a musician should only be: the content I'm creating isn't good enough yet [45:34]
    • Outro [45:56]

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops, your weekly curated drum loop library. If you're writing music, building tracks, or programming beats, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They deliver 10 new drum loops directly to your inbox every Monday so you can spend less time searching for the right sounds and more time making music. Each loop is always available in stereo and multitrack formats, always fresh, and they never recycled. And for a limited time, they are offering a seven-day free trial period with every plan. So visit DupeLoops.com and start your free trial today to receive 10 new multi-tracked drum loops per week, every week.

    Special thanks to Nashville based illustrator Bobby St. Louis for creating the artwork for The Music Stuff Show!


    Overcoming Your Own Excuses Apr 05, 2018
    Show notes

    This week, we discuss how to defeat the biggest enemy to your success: yourself. We talk about overcoming your own fear, refusing to believe the dissenters, and, as always, the importance of hitting publish.

    Don't forget to rate and review the show!

    Links from the Episode:

    • Jerry Maguire - Did you know?
    • Post Malone | I Fall Apart (TDIII Remix)
    • The Goals Episode
    • What I Learned About Being The Target Of Internet Hate At Age 13

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsor [0:09]
    • Episode overview [0:56]
    • Bananas [2:05]
    • Overcoming your own excuses [4:47]
    • We make up excuses as to why we don't have the things we want [5:41]
    • All of the excuses are a way to mask that we need to put in additional work or effort [6:25]
    • If you're making excuses for why you're not doing something, that comes from the same place which is fear [10:25]
    • You should be way more fearful of your deathbed than you should of what someone thinks about a song you put out [14:19]
    • If somebody wants to see you fail, screw them [16:04]
    • Don't let the fear fuel the excuse [16:26]
    • The sooner you hit publish, the better [17:12]
    • If you've never hit publish on a song you've done, it's the most terrifying [19:46]
    • You can't overcome it without just doing it [21:18]
    • It's fear of the unknown [21:52]
    • There are always things to fix [23:58]
    • People that hate the hardest are not actually doing anything [25:45]
    • People forget that human beings are on the other side of the internet [28:21]
    • Hate on the internet says more about the hater than you [30:17]
    • If they love you, they will love that you are working on what you love [33:55]
    • The people that know you best can see the difference in your life when you are doing something truly fulfilling [35:58]
    • Nobody's got time for bad friends [36:48]
    • This career path is a journey, not a destination [41:14]
    • Make your focus getting better each day [42:14]
    • Money is a terrible, terrible excuse [43:02]
    • Saying, "Oh I can't because I don't have money," is a cop out [45:04]
    • Don't be afraid to get creative with how you can fund the things you need money for [47:20]
    • Don't be scared to Google and YouTube [49:36]
    • Outro [51:26]

    Connect with Tom:

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    Connect with The Music Stuff Show:

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops, your weekly curated drum loop library. If you're writing music, building tracks, or programming beats, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They deliver 10 new drum loops directly to your inbox every Monday so you can spend less time searching for the right sounds and more time making music. Each loop is always available in stereo and multitrack formats, always fresh, and they never recycled. And for a limited time, they are offering a seven-day free trial period with every plan. So visit DupeLoops.com and start your free trial today to receive 10 new multi-tracked drum loops per week, every week.

    Special thanks to Nashville based illustrator Bobby St. Louis for creating the artwork for The Music Stuff Show!


    Cultivating A Community Mar 29, 2018
    Show notes

    This week, we discuss what it takes to create and maintain a community in the business of music. We look at ways to create relationships, examine why not being the best fit isn't always a bad thing, and show you how to use your influence to improve those around you.

    Don't forget to rate and review the show!

    Links from the Episode:

    • Ice Age Squirrel
    • How To Start From Zero
    • Cartel
    • Favorite Gentlemen
    • Being Intentional About Social Media Marketing

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsor [0:09]
    • Episode overview [0:56]
    • Squirrel trees [2:17]
    • Cultivating a music community [3:16]
    • Musicians vs Actors [4:57]
    • As long as you're pushing yourself, there's never going to come a day where the world stops and says, "We wrote all the songs." [5:57]
    • There is always space for great music [6:34]
    • You should want your friends to succeed in the music community [6:48]
    • If you don't get that job, it probably, ultimately for the best because it means you weren't the most suited for it [7:59]
    • In the music world, if you don't get the gig, you're still available for another gig [8:17]
    • Failures are what help us grow [8:58]
    • You're competing for a part of the pie [10:23]
    • 90% of whether or not you'll get a job touring as a musician is whether or not you're the best hang that applied [12:13]
    • Being able to play your instrument competently and cover the parts that are required of you and have a good attitude is really all it takes [14:47]
    • It doesn't do anything to improve the community that you love [15:57]
    • You gotta find like-minded folks [17:17]
    • Find places that align with your brand of music [19:53]
    • You gotta be proactive about being homies with other artists and bands [23:46]
    • Manchester Orchestra [25:31]
    • If you move to a town to build a career, find a group that you identify with and go to the places they might be [28:40]
    • Don't go out to a show to network [29:45]
    • People gravitate towards like-minded people [32:12]
    • Genuine connections combined with constantly always trying to provide value to other people without expectation [33:04]
    • Sincere relationships are the long play [33:43]
    • You will lose so much more than you will gain by trying to finagle something [35:56]
    • Don't be scared to mentor somebody you see potential in [38:52]
    • Take the opportunity to make your community better [40:18]
    • There are few things more gratifying in a community of music than making it with your friends [41:18]
    • Your specific musical community will always revert to the lowest common denominator [42:47]
    • Be tactful and intelligent about who you include in your community [43:39]
    • Outro [45:51]

    Connect with Tom:

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops, your weekly curated drum loop library. If you're writing music, building tracks, or programming beats, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They deliver 10 new drum loops directly to your inbox every Monday, so you can spend less time searching for the right sounds and more time making music. Each loop is always available in stereo and multitrack formats, always fresh, and they never recycled. And for a limited time, they are offering a seven-day free trial period with every plan. So visit DupeLoops.com and start your free trial today to receive 10 new multi-tracked drum loops per week, every week.

    Special thanks to Nashville based illustrator Bobby St. Louis for creating the artwork for The Music Stuff Show!


    How To Start From Zero Mar 22, 2018
    Show notes

    This week, we talk about how to start your career in music, right out of the gate. We examine the importance of choosing a skill you want to pursue, take a look at how to beat that initial creative block, and we discuss the positive impact of establishing a workflow for yourself, early-on.

    Don't forget to rate and review the show!

    Links from the Episode:

    • Dave Grohl
    • Kanye West
    • Charlie Puth
    • Harrison Ford

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsor [0:09]
    • Episode Overview [0:55]
    • Monopoly Money [2:32]
    • How to start from zero [3:56]
    • Step 1: Cultivate a skill [5:46]
    • Identify what interests you [8:23]
    • Just start doing it [9:20]
    • If it feels like work from day one, you should go do something else [10:41]
    • "My day feels weird and incomplete if I didn't pick up an instrument or sit down at a piano" [10:46]
    • "That dude cranked out beats, on beats, on beats, on beats before anybody had ever heard of him" [16:32]
    • Get the suck out [16:51]
    • You don't have to end up where you start, but you do have to start somewhere [17:41]
    • Simplicity has a much higher percentage rate of victory than complication when it comes to musical parts [20:51]
    • Four chords and the truth is real [21:23]
    • Start finding your voice on your instrument [25:49]
    • Start making something [27:49]
    • Where do you find these people? [29:01]
    • Don't be afraid to be a ringleader [30:09]
    • If you're in high school, you'll get more support on what you want to do, than you will ever get any other time in your life [31:43]
    • You don't outgrow the ability to be a musician [34:33]
    • You'll break when you're good [35:48]
    • Eazy-E wasn't a rapper [38:13]
    • You don't have time for negativity in your life [39:19]
    • Don't insulate yourself from feedback [40:09]
    • Outro [44:32]

    Connect with Tom:

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    Connect with The Music Stuff Show:

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops, your weekly curated drum loop library.

    If you're writing music, building tracks, or programming beats, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They deliver 10 new drum loops directly to your inbox every Monday, so you can spend less time searching for the right sounds and more time making music. Each loop is always available in stereo and multitrack formats, always fresh, and they never recycled. And for a limited time, they are offering a seven-day free trial period with every plan.

    So visit DupeLoops.com and start your free trial today to receive 10 new multi-tracked drum loops per week, every week.

    Special thanks to Nashville based illustrator Bobby St. Louis for creating the artwork for The Music Stuff Show!


    Being Intentional About Social Media Marketing Mar 15, 2018
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    On this episode of The Music Stuff Show, we take a look at the role social media plays in your business. We discuss where you should start, what kind of content to prioritize, and a few general guidelines for getting the most from your efforts. Please enjoy this episode of The Music Stuff Show: Being Intentional About Social Media Marketing.

    Don't forget to rate and review the show!

    Links from the Episode:

    • Brendon Urie on Instagram Live
    • Waves Plugins

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsor: [0:12]
    • Episode Overview [0:59]
    • Swans in England [1:49]
    • How to be intentional about your social media marketing [2:53]
    • So many people forget that there are human beings on the other side of the internet [3:22]
    • What would you tell your friend? [4:49]
    • Every business is in the business of making money off of relationships with people [5:22]
    • The best business arrangements are built upon relationships where everybody involved wins [6:03]
    • Your front facing image should be the same across all platforms [7:28]
    • You don't want to give people a reason to not understand [9:05]
    • Where should a band or artist start? [13:48]
    • If you have a current cell phone, you should be able to make visual content [15:22]
    • If you put out a song, it should have a visual element [16:05]
    • Instagram is a great place to have a never-ending behind the scenes [19:21]
    • Facebook is an incredibly powerful tool if you can stay on it and stay ahead of whatever their algorithm this week [26:50]
    • Try to master Instagram and Facebook before you spread yourself too thin getting into everything else [30:21]
    • The number 1 most important thing is quality content [41:19]
    • Nobody wants to sit there and watch you spam out "Go buy my song on iTunes!" [41:52]
    • If you have 20,000 people and 13 people like your photo when you post it on Facebook, you're not fooling anybody [43:45]
    • You're in the giving game on social media [45:10]
    • The only thing people like more than seeing or watching a story is being involved in that story [48:00]
    • Don't be afraid to suck [51:05]
    • We forget the power of a genuine connection, no matter how small it is [54:59]
    • Outro [56:04]

    Connect with Tom:

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops, your weekly curated drum loop library. If you're writing music, building tracks, or programming beats, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They deliver 10 new drum loops directly to your inbox every Monday, so you can spend less time searching for the right sounds and more time making music. Each loop is always available in stereo and multitrack formats, always fresh, and they never recycled. And for a limited time, they are offering a seven-day free trial period with every plan. So visit DupeLoops.com and start your free trial today to receive 10 new multi-tracked drum loops per week, every week.

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    Building Your Team Mar 08, 2018
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    On this episode of The Music Stuff Show, we talk about adding more people to your business. We pick apart a few crucial members of your organization, discuss what pieces you really need, and we take a look at how to go about finding them. Please enjoy this episode of The Music Stuff Show: Building Your Team.

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    Links from the Episode:

    • Tootsie Pop Commercial
    • Punk Goes Pop
    • Meet Cash: The Man Behind The Weeknd
    • Goals episode
    • CAA

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsor [0:12]
    • Episode Overview [0:54]
    • Tootsie Pops [2:05]
    • Building your team [3:12]
    • What's a team [4:09]
    • What's a producer? [7:12]
    • A producer's going to help you clarify your sound [7:46]
    • A producer is there to take your good idea to great [8:35]
    • You really need someone there to steer the boat and make sure you stay on task [11:36]
    • You gotta be honest with yourself and make sure it's actually as good as you think it is [14:03]
    • No matter how great you are, even if you're at the very top, you need someone to help continue to hone you [16:47]
    • If you want to perform at a high level, you have to train at the highest level [17:24]
    • How do you find a producer? [17:32]
    • Find somebody you vibe with [18:30]
    • Just because somebody is a great producer, doesn't mean they're a great producer for you [19:40]
    • Managers. What are they? [24:22]
    • Your manager should rival your mom's enthusiasm for your music [24:57]
    • A manager can either be one of the most beneficial or the most detrimental to your organization [28:38]
    • When you get to a point when your time and the demands on your time become unmanageable, that's when it's time to find a manager [30:41]
    • Do you have something to manage? [31:28]
    • If the product's not there, it doesn't matter [39:34]
    • What is a business manager? [10:19]
    • While investing in the right things can bring great returns, investing into the wrong thing can paralyze you [41:26]
    • If you are in talks with a potential manager that has push back on the idea of having your own lawyer look over a contract, that is a ginormous red flag and you should run swiftly the opposite direction [49:54]
    • What's a booking agent? [50:41]
    • Other people are always going to try to take the biggest piece of your pie that they can [52:29]
    • At the end of the day, you're still going to have to put in the work [59:17]
    • Outro [60:52]

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops: your weekly curated drum loop library. If you're writing music, programming beats, or building tracks, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They post 10 new multitracked drum loops on their website every Monday at noon. Each loop is available in stereo and multitracked formats, always fresh and they never recycled. And the best part is, every loop is only a dollar. And for listeners of this podcast, they are offering an additional 10% off of your first purchase when you use the code "musicstuffshow" at checkout.

    Special thanks to Nashville based illustrator Bobby St. Louis for creating the artwork for The Music Stuff Show!


    Should You Be Touring? Mar 01, 2018
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    On this episode of The Music Stuff show, we take an honest look at touring and where it fits into your career in the music business. We discuss some of the calculated risks worth taking, how to plan for your shows and routing, and some strong financial guidelines for hitting the road. Please enjoy this episode of The Music Stuff Show: Should You Be Touring?

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    Links from the Episode:

    • Vinyl episode
    • TN Kids

    Episode Guide:

    • Intro [0:00]
    • Sponsors [0:13]
    • Show Overview [0:55]
    • Work hard to go to sleep on time [2:02]
    • Toilet injuries [2:22]
    • Are you playing a show or touring for vanity, or are you playing shows and touring because people want to see you? [5:44]
    • Why not just hit the road? [6:08]
    • Touring is difficult to break even, much less make a profit on if you are just starting out in the game [6:25]
    • It's not just playing a show [7:18]
    • It is hard to not want to stab every person you share a van with if you don't have a place to sleep and shower [8:38]
    • Touring is a necessary extension of being in a band [10:29]
    • There is simply nothing that can replace the human to human interaction [10:44]
    • You're not only failing yourself [13:26]
    • Not only are you losing money, but that venue is losing money [14:10]
    • If you lie to them, it doesn't matter how great you are. You're not getting invited back. [15:22]
    • Put out some trailers [17:38]
    • Put a budget together [18:23]
    • Nothing will make (you) quit music faster than this feeling right here [19:24]
    • Make it make sense [20:04]
    • Don't ever book shows that you have to drive more than 6-8 hrs before you have to play again [21:35]
    • The whole idea of touring is so romantic [22:42]
    • However long you think it takes to plan a tour that will be a successful tour, you need to multiply that amount of time by 2 or 3 or 4 or 6 [25:17]
    • The best way to make sure people actually come to a show is to pre-sell tickets [27:24]
    • The firmer commitment you can have from people the more success you're gonna have [28:21]
    • Now you gotta practice your ass off [30:14]
    • "I don't care how much I like your record; if your show is average, I'm never going to come see you again" [30:26]
    • If the show is bad or underwhelming, it almost ruins the listening experience of the record [30:59]
    • Things that seem candid are not always as candid as people believe [32:00]
    • It's gonna hurt so bad [33:42]
    • You have two choices: ignore it and pretend it was a fluke, or embrace it and learn how you can be better [33:54]
    • It always feels like you're doing way more than you are [34:39]
    • A live show boils down to moments [34:55]
    • You want the headliner to be terrified to play after you [37:24]
    • JT Invitation [37:38]
    • Outro [39:06]

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    This episode of The Music Stuff Show is brought to you by DupeLoops: your weekly curated drum loop library. If you're writing music, programming beats, or building tracks, DupeLoops.com is THE place to start. They post 10 new multitracked drum loops on their website every Monday at noon. Each loop is available in stereo and multitracked formats, always fresh and they never recycled. And the best part is, every loop is only a dollar. And for listeners of this podcast, they are offering an additional 10% off of your first purchase when you use the code "musicstuffshow" at checkout.

    Special thanks to Nashville based illustrator Bobby St. Louis for creating the artwork for The Music Stuff Show!


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