The Modern British History Podcast - Harry White

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Latest Episodes:

16. The Conservative Party Transformation in the 70s and 80s - with Dr Simon Griffiths Apr 05, 2025

15. A History of BBC Election Night Broadcasting - Crossover with The British Broadcasting Century Podcast Sep 09, 2024

A History of BBC Election Night Broadcasting - Crossover with The British Broadcasting Century Podcast.
Ever wondered how the BBC has covered elections? How this has changed over the decades? Well time to find out!

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14. 'Yes Minister' - Crossover with the British Sitcom History Podcast Nov 20, 2023

"In stage one, we say nothing is going to happen. Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it. In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there’s nothing we can do.
.....Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it’s too late now.”

I'm joined by 'my right honourable member' Gareth Allen from the British Sitcom History Podcast constituency to dissect the interminable obfuscations and myriad machinations of this early 1980s gem of political satire: 'Yes Minister'.
We hope you enjoy the podcast!

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13. Northern Ireland Roundtable Discussion Oct 22, 2023

What are the common myths about the conflict in Northern Ireland? Is understanding history a barrier to peace building in the country, or a vital part of it? And finally, what are the prospects for Irish unification in future?
I was joined by Dr Thomas Leahy, Dr Eleanor Leah Williams and Dr Jonathan Kirkup for a full roundtable conversation on all these questions and many more. We hope you enjoy the discussion.

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12. John Major: An Unsuccessful Prime Minister? - with Dr Ben Williams Oct 13, 2023

John Major was prime minister for longer than the last five we've had in the UK. What were his politics? Were they little more than Thatcherism with some of the hard edges taken off; or did he represent a more significant shift of the political dial.
Thanks to Dr Ben Williams for joining me on this one to unpick these questions (and a few more besides!) Ben co-wrote the edited book John Major: An Unsuccessful Prime Minister? Reappraising John Major with Dr Kevin Hickson.

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11. The Legacy of Hugh Gaitskell and John Smith - with Dr Martin Farr Aug 27, 2023

Both Smith and Gaitskell died suddenly and never gained political office. What do they tell us about how the Labour party remembers its lost leaders? What might have happened if they had both lived? And finally, where are they best placed on the spectrum of political opinion in the Labour Party?
In this episode I'm joined by Dr Martin Farr, Senior Lecturer in Contemporary British History at Newcastle University, to take on all these questions and many more.
We hope you enjoy the podcast.

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10. The EU's Role in Northern Ireland Peacebuilding - with Dr Giada Lagana Aug 27, 2023

What is the often overlooked role that the EU played in Northern Ireland peacebuilding? What were the challenges of the EU getting buy-in from the Northern Irish community and how were these tackled? What lessons can be learnt from this for other peacebuilding initiatives?

For this episode I was very grateful to be joined by Dr Giada Lagana, lecturer in politics at Cardiff university, to discuss all the above and more!
Sources highlighted in the episode for those interested to learn more:

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9. By-Elections - with Dr Marc Collinson Aug 19, 2023

Why are by-elections called; what myths and misconceptions surround them; and how much do they shed light on the national political picture?
I was grateful to be joined by Marc Collinson for this episode - lecturer in contemporary politics and history at Bangor University - to tackle these questions and many more.
Hope you enjoy the discussion!
Recommendations:

Chris (Lord) Rennard, Winning Here: My Campaigning Life: Memoirs Volume 1 (2018).
David Butler, 'By-Elections and their Interpretation', Chris Cook and John Ramsden (eds), By-Elections in British Politics (1973): 1-13.
Peter Sloman, '"Take Power - Vote Liberal": Jeremy Thorpe, the 1974 Liberal revival, and the politics of 1970s Britain', English Historical Review, 137 (2022): 1462–1492.
T.G. Otte and Paul Readman (eds), By-elections in British Politics, 1832-1914 (2013).

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8. Rock Against Racism - with Dr Ieuan Franklin Aug 07, 2023

I'm very grateful to Ieuan Franklin - lecturer in History and Politics at Bournemouth University - for joining me on this one. In this episode, we talk about the Rock Against Racism movement of the late 1970s.

What was the National Front and why did its followers join it?
How did Rock Against Racism get started and challenge the National Front's rhetoric of intolerance and exclusion?
And finally, what have been the enduring legacies of the movement?

We discuss all this and more (whilst also dropping in some late 70s punk and reggae music recommendations to add to your playlist!)
Suggestions for further watching and reading:

White Riot: https://player.bfi.org.uk/rentals/film/watch-white-riot-2019-online
Huddle R. & Saunders, R. (2021). Reminiscences of RAR: Rock Against Racism (1976-1982), Bookmarks
Rachel, D. (2016). Walls Come Tumbling Down: The Music and Politics of Rock Against Racism, 2 Tone and Red Wedge, Publisher.
Renton, D. (2018). Never Again: Rock Against Racism and the Anti-Nazi League 1976-1982 (1st ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315145037

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7. The Falklands War - Crossover Episode with The Aspects of History Podcast Jul 14, 2023

I'm delighted to be joined on this one by Ollie Webb-Carter, host of The Aspects of History Podcast. In this crossover episode, we take on the hefty topic of The Falklands War.
How did Britain get drawn into a war on a small set of islands 8000 miles away? How did the conflict play domestically in Britain - both in the House of Commons, the media, and the wider public?
We chat about all this and much more, touching on the major milestones of the war whilst stitching our own reflections into the narrative as we go.
Link to Ollie's podcast: https://aspectsofhistory.com/podcasts/

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6. Labour in the 80s: the Rocky Road to Recovery - with Associate Professor Danny Rye Jul 13, 2023

Why did the Labour Party lose the 1983 election and what changes did the party make to put itself back on the path to recovery?
We're joined by another real expert on the period for this episode - associate professor Danny Rye from Liverpool Hope University - to tackle these questions and more!
Reading Suggestions
Drucker, H.M., (1979) Doctrine and ethos in the Labour Party (Vol. 12). Routledge.

Hayter, D., 2005. Fightback!: Labour's Traditional Right in the 1970s and 1980s. Manchester University Press.
Panitch, L. and Leys, C., 2001. The end of parliamentary socialism: from new left to new labour. Verso.
Pugh, M., 2010. Speak for Britain!: A new history of the labour party. Random House.

Russell, M., 2005. Building New Labour: The politics of party organisation. Springer.
Shaw, E., 2002. The Labour party since 1979: Crisis and transformation. Routledge.

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5. The Evolution of Political Campaigning - with Professor Darren Lilleker Jun 22, 2023

Ever wonder how political campaigns have transformed over the years?
Discover how political marketing has embraced corporate strategies, as we analyse the image management and PR tactics of iconic leaders like Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair. Learn about how the introduction of television altered politicians' presentations and the roles played by public relations experts like Tim Bell in shaping campaigns.
Finally, we explore the professionalisation of modern political campaigns and ponder the future of this ever-changing landscape, including the greater use of voter profiling and data-driven campaigns.
For an overview of the air war:
Rosenbaum, M. (2016). From soapbox to soundbite: Party political campaigning in Britain since 1945. Springer.

Developments in the ground war in the later years are documented in:

Denver, D., & Hands, G. (2013). Modern constituency electioneering: Local campaigning in the 1992 general election. Routledge.

One of the best studies of the influences of marketing and public relations is:

Scammell, M. (2016). Designer politics: How elections are won. Springer.

For an overview of the psychology of campaigning see:

Lilleker, D. (2014). Political Communication and Cognition. Springer.

Finally, a work on spin and New Labour from an ex-BBC journalist:

Jones, N. (2000). Sultans of spin: the media and the New Labour government Orion Books.

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4. Party Finance - with Professor Justin Fisher Jun 15, 2023

What if we told you that the often overlooked aspect of party finance plays a critical role in shaping British politics? As we dive into the historical landscape of political funding, our guest Justin Fisher from Brunel University brings his 35 years of expertise in political science to help us unravel the complexities and motivations behind political donations.
Throughout the episode, we examine the roles of trade unions, businesses, and individual contributions in shaping the political landscape and highlight the major differences between how the Conservative and Labour parties have been financed over the years. Furthermore, we tackle the subject of transparency in political finance and its implications on public trust.
In the final part of our conversation, we venture into the topic of greater state funding for political parties, weighing the pros and cons of such a model and how it could be implemented.
To learn more about Justin and his research you can find him at Professor Justin Fisher | Introduction | Brunel University London.
We hope you enjoy the podcast!

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3. Economics and Culture in the 80s - with Alwyn Turner May 30, 2023

“Economics are the method, the object is to change the soul” - Margaret Thatcher (1981)

What were the various tensions and contradictions between free markets and social conservatism in the 1980s? How did these manifest in the culture, music, and media of the time?

In this episode, I’m joined by author and historian Alwyn Turner to ponder these questions amongst many others. In this wide-ranging discussion, we run the gamut from monetarism and Milton Friedman to Band Aid, Only Fools and Horses and much more.
We hope you enjoy the podcast!
* You can also find out more about Alwyn and his work on his website here: http://www.alwynwturner.com/

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2. Special advisors - with Dr Athanassios Gouglas May 10, 2023

In this episode we hear from Dr Athanassios Gouglas on the subject of special advisors. Dr Gouglas is a politics lecturer at the university of Exeter and you can find out more about his research here: https://politics.exeter.ac.uk/staff/gouglas/
In the coversation we cover why special advisors came into being, the benefits and tensions they produce in the system, and more!
Dr Gouglas kindly supplied the following reading suggestions for those keen to go deeper into the topic:
United Kingdom

Blick, A. (2004). People who live in the dark. The history of the special adviser in British politics. London : Politico's, 2004.
Yong, B. & Hazell, R. (2014). Special Advisers: Who they are, what they do and why they matter. Oxford and Portland, Oregon: Hart Publishing.
Orchard D, Gouglas A, Pickering H (2023). Life after Whitehall: the career moves of British special advisers. British Journal of Politics and International Relations Abstract. DOI.https://doi.org/10.1177/13691481221144228

Internationally comparative

Shaw, R. (eds) (2023) Handbook of Ministerial and Political Advisers. Edward-Elgar. https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/handbook-on-ministerial-and-political-advisers-9781800886575.html
Gouglas, A. (2023). The story so far: what we know (and don’t know) about ministerial advisers. In Richard Shaw (eds) (2023) Handbook of Ministerial and Political Advisers. Edward-Elgar. https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/handbook-on-ministerial-and-political-advisers-9781800886575.html
Gouglas, A. (forthcoming). Political Advisers in Modern Democracies. Dark Masters? Edward-Elgar.
Meert, A., Pickering, H. Brans, M. Gouglas, A. (2023). ‘Systematic literature reviews: opportunities and limits in ministerial adviser research’. In Richard Shaw (eds) (2023) Handbook of Ministerial and Political Advisers. Edward-Elgar. https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/handbook-on-ministerial

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1. Crises in the 1970s - with Dr Chris Kirkland Feb 04, 2023

This episode has Dr Chris Kirkland joining the podcast to speak on crises in the 1970s, with a particular focus on their link to the Labour Party. Chris is a lecturer in politics at York St John University and has published monographs comparing crises in modern British Politics and exploring how crises have shaped the UK Labour party’s economic ideology.
We had a really fascinating conversation and below are some reading recommendations for those interested to learn more. For those wanting something for the general reader there's:

Beckett, A. (2009) When the Lights went Out: Britain in the Seventies Faber and Faber: London
Sandbrook, D. Seasons in the Sun: The Battle for Britain, 1974-1979.

And for those wanting a more academic perspective:

Brittan, S. (1975) The Economic Consequences of Democracy (1977) Temple Smith: London
Kirkland, C. (2022) Labour’s Economic Ideology: Developed Through Crises Bristol University Press: Bristol
Lopez, T. M. (2014) The Winter of Discontent: Myth, Memory and History Liverpool University Press: Liverpool

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