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    The Mismatch

    Chris Vernon and David Jacoby discuss all the news, trends, and transactions happening in the NBA. They also offer their on-court analysis, and occasionally get into heated debates.

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    Summer League Observations and the Mavs' Future With J. Kyle Mann and Jonathan Tjarks | The Void Jul 11, 2022
    Show notes

    Hey, it's Kevin; thank you for listening to The Void. Today’s guests are The Ringer’s own J. Kyle Mann and Jonathan Tjarks from Upside High. We are all about the NBA Summer League as we discuss the performances of Paolo Banchero, Chet Holmgren, Jabari Smith Jr., and more. Here are today’s time-stamps:


    (02:14) - On Paolo Banchero

    (09:16) - The Magic's roster and how it fits with Paolo

    (14:55) - Jabari Smith Jr.’s Summer League struggles

    (17:27) - How do you see Jalen Green and Jabari playing together?

    (22:28) - On Chet Holmgren

    (28:02) - Watching Josh Giddey play with Chet is so much fun

    (32:00) - The difficulty of scouting basketball players

    (38:35) - Can Keegan Murray become a true star?

    (44:28) - The importance of De’Aaron Fox

    (47:45) - On Bennedict Mathurin and his role with the Pacers

    (53:58) - State of the Mavs after losing Jalen Brunson


    Hosts: Kevin O’Connor

    Guests: J. Kyle Mann and Jonathan Tjarks

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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    Summer League Recap, Preview, and Speeding Tickets Jul 08, 2022
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    Verno and KOC are live from Las Vegas for the NBA summer league as they recap the debut of Paolo Banchero, Chet Holmgren, and others (01:05). They also discuss the unfairness of players like Josh Giddey and Paul Reed playing in the summer league. Verno mentions seeing Otto Porter in Vegas, which leads to a conversation about speeding tickets (15:13). While discussing Isiah Stewart, the guys take a look back at the 2019 high school prospect list to see where those players are now (29:48). Finally, they go through who they are excited to see play this weekend (45:02).

    Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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    All Quiet on the Free Agency Front, The Gobert Gamble, and Summer League Excitement Jul 05, 2022
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    After the initial wave of signings, free agency has hit a stall as Verno and KOC discuss how the league is waiting for Kevin Durant to get traded (01:17). The T-Wolves traded for Rudy Gobert over the weekend, and Verno shares why he doesn’t like the trade for the Jazz while KOC defends the move and shares why Gobert will flourish in Minnesota (10:15). Staying with the Jazz, the guys discuss how Danny Ainge always manages to get what he wants and why the Gobert trade is all about Anthony Edwards (29:31). Also, the guys discuss the Malcolm Brogdon trade and share their excitement for going to this year’s Summer League (44:19).

    Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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    Where in the World Will KD Go, and Recapping the Early Free Agency Moves Jul 01, 2022
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    Kevin Durant ruined all of free agency, so Verno and KOC open up the show by going through the potential teams that can put together the historical package for KD that the Nets are asking for (00:54). Despite KD putting the league on hold, the guys go over some of the deals that were completed yesterday (21:08). The guys debate the Thunder’s decision to give Lu Dort close to a $90 million contract (36:11). They last go through some of the under-the-radar signings before discussing the situation with Miles Bridges (43:28).

    Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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    Brunson to New York, Implications for the Knicks and Mavs With Marc Stein | The Void Jun 29, 2022
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    Hey, it’s Kevin! Thank you for listening to 'The Void.' With the news of Jalen Brunson possibly leaving the Mavs for the Knicks, I bring on Marc Stein to help break down all the implications from both sides. You can subscribe to Marc’s Substack by using the link below. Here are today’s timestamps:


    (03:30) - How much of a blunder is this for the Mavs?

    (05:18) - Why Jalen Brunson is worth the money he’s getting

    (12:44) - How can the Mavs replace Brunson?

    (18:52) - The Dejounte Murray sweepstakes

    (22:23) - Any other potential targets for the Knicks?


    Marc Stein Substack link: https://marcstein.substack.com/


    Host: Kevin O'Connor

    Guest: Marc Stein

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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    Post-Draft Stories and Getting Ready for Free Agency Jun 28, 2022
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    Verno and KOC return to give their reaction to how the NBA draft shook out (01:20). With free agency starting up this week, the guys dive into the hottest stories leading into Thursday (13:02). They discuss the Nets drama, where Deandre Ayton will go, John Wall to the Clippers, and more. While Russell Westbrook and Draymond Green calling out Skip Bayless is fun for Twitter, the guys hope Dray evolves his podcast skills to discuss basketball rather than calling out people (34:07). Lastly, Steve Clifford returns to Charlotte and Verno makes KOC’s day (43:39).

    Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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    Seven Lingering Questions Following the NBA Draft With Logan Murdock | The Void Jun 24, 2022
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    Hey, it's Kevin! Thank you for listening to 'The Void'. Today The Ringer's Logan Murdock is joining the show to discuss some of our takeaways from the draft and then look ahead to the NBA offseason, which will be ramping up next week. For a full draft analysis, check out my grades in my Draft Guide (link below) or listen to Thursday's 'Bill Simmons Podcast'. Here are today's timestamps:

    (03:35) - Did the Knicks make all those trades just for Jalen Brunson?

    (08:15) - What are the Spurs up to?

    (13:35) - Deandre Ayton’s future

    (22:18) - The best spots for John Collins

    (25:47) - What to do with D’Angelo Russell

    (32:11) - Should the Bulls go all-in on Rudy Gobert?

    (38:07) - On Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving


    KOC's 2022 NBA Draft Grades: https://nbadraft.theringer.com/draft-grades/


    Host: Kevin O'Connor

    Guest: Logan Murdock

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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    Gearing Up for the NBA Draft, Players on the Move, and Potential Sleepers Jun 21, 2022
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    With the draft just days away, Verno and KOC discuss whether the top of the order is set in stone, or if we should expect moves to be made (00:56). Anything can happen in the draft, as KOC mentions some names we could see on new teams next season (10:00). The guys discuss how teams use numbers to scout players, and potential low-risk, high-reward prospects (20:07). Finally, they go through Dyson Daniels’s NBA potential, Paolo Banchero playing football, and KOC gives his thoughts on some of the lesser-known prospects (40:16).


    Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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    Drafting the Magic’s Future With Kevin Clark and Steve Ceruti | The Void Jun 18, 2022
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    Hey it’s Kevin, on today’s podcast I spoke with The Ringer’s resident Magic fans, Kevin Clark and Steve Ceruti. With the draft less than a week away, we’re diving deep into the Orlando Magic and their future. The fit for all the options at no. 1, the roster structure, and why the Magic’s narrative will soon change. We get into this and so much more.

    (04:31) - Who Ceruti and Clark would choose no. 1

    (16:55) - Would there be disappointment if the guy you want isn’t chosen?

    (26:52) - On Franz Wagner and Jalen Suggs

    (33:03) - Are you hopeful for the future?

    (39:49) - Can the Rockets put together a godfather offer?

    Host: Kevin O'Connor

    Guests: Kevin Clark and Steve Ceruti

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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    Warriors Are Champions Once Again, Disappointment in Tatum, and Memories About Fathers Jun 17, 2022
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    Congratulations to the Golden State Warriors for beating the Boston Celtics and winning the NBA championship! Verno and KOC give their first reactions to the Warriors winning their fourth title in eight years (01:21). Even though Boston reached the Finals, KOC believes the Celtics are still ahead of schedule because of how young the core of Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown are (14:45). Verno also points out how rare it is for young stars to win it all in the NBA. Speaking of youth, the Warriors still have the young depth that could keep them Finals contenders as Steph and the rest of the core grow older (24:15). The guys reminisce about going to sporting events with their fathers before Verno asks KOC how Celtics fans will look back at this season (36:53). Lastly, KOC gives an update to his NBA draft board and briefly discuss the Mavs trading for Christian Wood (01:08:34).

    Hosts: Chris Vernon and Kevin O’Connor

    Producer: Jessie Lopez

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