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The Many Hats Club

An information security focused group of individuals from all walks of life

Copyright: © The Many Hats Club

Latest Episodes:

Ep. 35, Swimming with forensics sharks (with Brett Shavers) — Ep. 35, Swimming with forensics sharks (with Brett Shavers) Apr 04, 2019
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[00:07:59] I've been hired as a hitman on two occasions to kill people that they thought were informants. So this was the kind of people that I was actually working with. People trying to kill people. [00:08:10]

(2018-10-18)

This time on our podcast we had Brett Shavers; former undercover hitman and now a digital forensics expert talking about:

the military, law enforcement, working undercover - and now, forensics,

what is digital forensics and how it pairs with incident response,

recommendations of what to learn now to get into forensics,

plus a lot of stories from past and current cases from digital and analogue crime worlds; and a torrent of questions from TMHC members.

And to get you more interested

*[00:37:23] I think police work kind of gives you... you look at somebody sideways pretty much and say, well you're saying one thing but I'm seeing something different [00:37:32], *[00:31:35] The cool thing about forensics and incident response is you can train yourself [00:31:40], [01:08:16] you're infiltrating this group and next thing you know you're getting these cars drive by your house really slow [01:08:22]
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Hosted by Stu, episode production Meadow.

Ep. 55, The Beer Farmers' Monthly Special No. 4 — Ep. 55, The Beer Farmers' Monthly Special No. 4 Apr 02, 2019
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(2119-04-01)
It's the fourth episode of The Beer Farmers Special; tonight:

Mike Kemp - paying tributes to a great person,

and:

Facebook, again,

HTTPS... or not?

...and how Indian government is (not) handling it,

InfosecBasics: know what you have and where,

Unhackable vs Pen Test Partners, plus... 🦆 cams?

Thank you Mike, John, Ian, Sean and Andy for being here for us!
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Episode production Meadow.

Ep. 38, Take care of yourself while reversing malware (with Amit Serper) — Ep. 38, Take care of yourself while reversing malware (with Amit Serper) Apr 02, 2019
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[01:53:16] knowledge sharing is like the most important thing that we have not only as security doers but as humans in general [01:53:24]

(2018-11-16)

This time on TMHC Radio we have spend fantastic two hours with Amit Serper talking about how not to lose one's mind while working in infosec - specifically about ADHD. This episode really resonated with many of us - Amit really hit the mental health nail on the head.
And a bit about infosec too!

government -> Cybereason,

ADHD: Amit's journey to understanding what it really is,

...and what are his method of coping with it,

technical: how to break into infosec? learn to program in C.

And a lot of interesting questions from the audience.

rand() quotes to get you more interested:

[00:26:29] never take any any drugs without seeing a doctor especially not stuff that like works on your brain and messes with the chemistry of your brain; your brain is the moneymaker. Don't. Fuck with it [00:26:42], [00:28:58] just knowing that there another person in the room and just being aware that there's a conversation behind me makes my ADHD kick in [00:29:08], [00:31:06] I found out that if I work with headphones I can't work because music distracts me [00:31:12], [00:32:42] when you have IDA Pro open and the nerf dart hits you in the cheek you get angry [00:32:51]
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Hosted by Stu, episode production Meadow.

Ep. 37, Snow in Summer and being a Social Engineer (with Snow) — Ep. 37, Snow in Summer and being a Social Engineer (with Snow) Mar 27, 2019
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(2018-11-01)

For this episode we were joined by Snow who shared her experience on how to become a Social Engineer. We learned about the importance of recon, how to clone badges with references to the awesome Bishop Fox, and Snow also shared with us a few of her engagements. If you are interested in Social Engineering then this is the episode for you. You will learn about:

Pre-texting

Badge creation and cloning

Planning engagements

OSINT

Sock Puppets and SOCMINT

Some awesome case studies

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Hosted by Stu, episode production Meadow.

Ep. 36, Scared already? You ain't heard nothing yet (with Thugcrowd) — Ep. 36, Scared already? You ain't heard nothing yet (with Thugcrowd) Mar 27, 2019
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(2018-10-31)

One Spooky Halloween we were joined by our friends at Thugcrowd (sshell, dnz, Yuu, skelec, Pic0o) where around the campfire we shared infosec horror stories. In this episode we discussed:

Human Error,

Epic Fails,

Attacks that scare most infosec folks,

And some Social Engineering horrors by Stu himself.

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Hosted by Stu, episode production Meadow.

Ep. 33, Cooperative Forest Assistance Act and beyond (with Fred Jennings) — Ep. 33, Cooperative Forest Assistance Act and beyond (with Fred Jennings) Jan 31, 2019
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[...] with hackers you've got sort of the hacker hysteria aspect of it too, where if you can do stuff with a computer you might as well be the Wicked Witch to most federal judges [...]

(2018-10-04)

For this fantastic October afternoon, we have been joined by Fred Jennings a.k.a. Esquiring for an overview of how law interacts with information security:

road to... law! origin stories, human rights work;

war stories: hacktivism vs. street crime;

Computer Fraud and Abuse Act: law predating technology;

CFAA and bug bounties: what to watch for;

...plus some opinions that definitely are not legal advice - but are important nonetheless.

The highlights:

[00:26:51] you get a law that doesn't match the actual technical issues, and as a result criminalizes things that shouldn't be criminal and fails to criminalize things that probably should [00:27:05], [00:46:00] there is a lot of hysteria and fear of the scary hacker out there in law enforcement circles [00:46:10]
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Hosted by Stu, episode production Meadow.

Ep. 32, She hacks purple (with Tanya Janca) — Ep. 32, She hacks purple (with Tanya Janca) Jan 02, 2019
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*(...) It's like being on a really nice street or all the houses are new and fancy and then you have one with like broken windows and the door is broken and it's all on the same network (...)*
(2018-09-21)

Straight from across the pond and to the north with a heart of blue came Tanya Janca and talked about:

Mentoring: there are not enough people in information security, connecting professionals with newcomers;

Working for a government for a long time - and wanting out;

Web application security: OWASP; DevSlop: DevSecOps testing;

Pushing left: Tanya's definition of DevSecOps;

how to be more open and diverse in infosec and technology in general: [01:45:16] You know one is talking about diversity but you've actually got to do it. [01:45:22]

Hot takeaways:
[00:05:51] And I just I want to help everyone because we really really need people in security. [00:05:56], [01:24:56] None of this crap would have happened if you would let me do my job. [01:25:00], [00:29:16] If you find a bug in the requirements phase it'll cost you ten bucks to fix. If you wait till you've had a security incident - sometimes that's in the millions. [00:29:33],

and a thing about dressing up for work:

[01:31:06] I have worked at so many offices where they told me "we'd really like it if you would wear pants and a t-shirt because you dressing up is making men uncomfortable". But now I'm the senior person and everyone can kiss my ass that doesn't like it. I like wearing dresses. That's it. I like it. And I'm not going to not do it because it makes someone else uncomfortable. I'm not like naked. I'm quite modest in the way I dress and if me dressing up makes you feel like a slob - that's something that's wrong with you and how you feel about yourself. [01:31:41]

Episode resources:

Mentoring thread: https://twitter.com/shehackspurple/status/1041695362438897665

Ottawa's OWASP Chapter: https://www.meetup.com/OWASP-Ottawa/

DevSlop https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_DevSlop_Project, https://twitter.com/Owasp_DevSlop

Women in CyberSecurity: https://www.meetup.com/WIST-Ottawa/

OWASP's Slack, #Mentoring: https://twitter.com/shehackspurple/status/1041861143428509696

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Hosted by Stu, episode production Meadow and the Moderators team.

Ep. 31, msrexe.exe (with Mobman) — Ep. 31, msrexe.exe (with Mobman) Nov 25, 2018
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(2018-09-06)

[00:53:48] I'm kind of proud of calling myself a hacker. My license plate on my car says Hacker. And you know it upsets me when they use it synonymously with the word criminal. [00:54:03]

We've downloaded a new W95 theme, then CD tray opened and next thing we knew we had Mobman a.k.a. Gregory Hanis on our podcast. There are so many epic stories on this episode that it's hard to summarise, but let's try...

hacking games -> Sub7, the tool that started many a career in infosec;

hacking phone companies -> jail -> the life after;

the cyber security inventor vs. Mobman;

HackBama.com, the upcoming con and the infosec community in Alabama, U. S. of A.;

jobs, jobs, jobs.

[00:04:05] Some people they don't even want but look at Atari it's like what the hell is this blocks on a screen stuff [00:04:11],

[00:23:09] We can open and close people's CD ROM drives. You can hide their start button. You can make your start button reappear. You could flip their screen upside down [00:23:19],

[00:37:17] I gave a location and I went there and then they came out with a SWAT team and I get on the ground guns drawn and like I killed somebody. Or something. So then I got arrested. [00:37:28],

[01:43:11] They're like DEF CON but without all the crazy people [01:43:14],

[01:52:23] this job is awesome and cushy but it only pays like 150k a year. I'm like WHAT. No that's a lot of money. If you can't live off 150k you're doing it wrong. [01:52:36],

[02:04:03] just because I'm doing good now I went through a lot of different things. So you know doing that one wrong thing can have a lot of impact on the rest of your life [02:04:13]

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Hosted by Stu, episode production Meadow and the Moderators team.

Ep. 28, Globally distributed backups (with Troy Hunt) — Ep. 28, Globally distributed backups (with Troy Hunt) Nov 12, 2018
Show notes

(2018-07-29)

[00:18:45] we know that banks are one of the worst in terms of crap passwords [00:18:48]

It was a night before... actually it an was early Monday morning for some of us when we have been woken up by Troy Hunt to hear about globally distributed backups (take a guess), plus:

who is Troy Hunt and how he does not work for Microsoft,

have I been pwned? how it started and its effect on end user security perception, password policies,

flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers and https-google-conspirators

Certificates: paid or free? EV or DV?

Some juicy bits:

[00:25:18] I don't think anyone here sort of manages the social media accounts for their organization - If you do don't argue with people online because no matter how right you are you look like a [00:25:28], [00:40:16] at the moment a visual indicator in the browser is useless because people just simply don't look for OV versus DV [00:40:23], [00:47:30] I myself find a lot of legitimate emails from organizations, including financial institutions almost indistinguishable from phishing emails [00:47:42]
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Hosted by Stu, episode production Meadow

Ep. 27, Many hats indeed (with Georgia Weidman) — Ep. 27, Many hats indeed (with Georgia Weidman) Oct 30, 2018
Show notes

(2018-07-19)
[00:21:36] Well I mean I did knock over a podium once [00:21:41]

On this cold winter night we had Georgia Weidman, wearer of many hats - an enterepreneur, a penetration tester, a speaker and a writer telling her story on, well, hacking, application and mobile security but also how a hacker finds themselves in a business environment:

from grad school thru government to running a business,

the book: the current and what to expect from the second edition,

automated penetration testing and future of red teaming/pentesting,

BYOD: it's here to stay and the industry has to deal with it,

and many more!

[00:15:08] even to security companies security is not the most important thing; keeping the lights on and making payroll - that's what's the most important [00:15:18], [00:19:44] I was always told if you if you're not nervous before presenting then you're not human [00:19:50], [00:40:29] as long as we continue to try and make one size fits all security we're going to continue to have trouble [00:40:35], [00:42:35] I mean I'm not going to say my first book was bad. I think my first book was awesome. I still have a hard time believing I wrote it. [00:42:43], [00:48:15] One Christmas one CEO one company got an iPhone and said: we're putting this on the network and there was nothing the security guys could do about it. And it's all just gone downhill from there. [00:48:27], [01:06:55] You know when you're in grade school they ask you what you want to be when you grow up and I always said I wanted to be a novelist. But then I became an infosec professional [01:07:07]
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Hosted by Stu, episode production Meadow, PizzaTheHutt

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