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    The Laverne Cox Show

    Years ago, a therapist said in our very first session that there are only two things that we can truly control in our lives – our own perception and our own behavior. That’s it. Nothing more than that.  Each week, The Laverne Cox Show will feature intimate conversations with folks who help me to see and think differently so that maybe I can act differently. It is my hope that this becomes a place that fosters perspectives that might inspire new behavior in each of us, which in turn gets us closer to becoming the very best versions of ourselves. Let’s have a spiritual makeover together.

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    Latest Episodes:
    The Legendary Life of Connie Fleming, Part I: Too Funky! Sep 26, 2023
    Show notes

    Connie Fleming. In this two-part episode honoring the legendary runway model, cabaret performer and NYC “door bitch”, Laverne gets allll the tea about Connie’s life then and now. These episodes are bursting with history, HERSTORY and fun, juicy details of incredible stories from back in the glorious (and terrifying) day.

    Part I: The 80’s and 90’s

    In this episode Laverne and Connie talk about her life in the 80’s and 90’s New York. She was a groundbreaking transgender model who walked for Thierry Mugler and Vivienne Westwood. And, wow, did she WALK!!! Connie was also part of the original Boy Bar Beauties, an iconic cabaret in the East Village, Wigstock, the Too Funky and Divine Thing Videos. She was in the middle of the explosive, exciting and yes, deadly, New York City gay and trans creative world. Not drag, darling, trans. Trans models now have her to thank.

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

    Links of Interest - PART 1:

    The Untold Story of the Fearless Connie Fleming (The Standard) (2017)

    Sophia Lamar, Connie Girl and Zaldy: 3 icons who defied normative beauty - Dazed Digital (2019)

    Cody Leone Ravioli

    Art School Girls of Doom, The Bra

    Thierry Mugler

    Thierry Mugler at Brooklyn Museum

    Casey Cadwallader

    Connie walking for Mugler - MUST SEE

    George Michael - Too Funky (Official Video)

    George Michael - Too Funky (Thierry Mugler Original Director's Cut)

    The Soup Dragons - Divine Thing

    3 Vintage Trans Models You Might Not Know About (incl. Teri Toye)

    How Drag Influenced 90’s Fashion…from Mugler to Levi’s (Elle)

    Billy Beyond (Instagram)

    Danilo, Hairstylist

    Susanne Bartsch

    Who Is…Mr. Pearl

    Thierry Mugler Jacket Animation (Fashion Institute of Technology)

    David Dalrymple

    Mona Foot

    Wigstock (1995 Doc, Part 1)

    Lady Bunny @ The Boy Bar (Video)

    International Chrysis (Boy Bar video, joined by Cody Ravioli)

    Other Episodes Mentioned or Relevant:

    The Groundbreaking Fashion Career of Tracey ‘Africa’ Norman

    The Spirituality of Club Culture w/ Honey Dijon

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Co-Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Co-Editor: Nikolas Harter

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Copaganda and the Criminal System w/ Olayemi Olurin Sep 21, 2023
    Show notes

    Movement lawyer and political commentator, or “professional loudmouth”, Olayemi Olurin sheds light on what she knows about the American criminal “justice" system - which is a ton. Having come from The Bahamas as a young woman, she had seen plenty of poor Black folks. But she says America has a very different way of treating Black and brown people, which is that there is a focus on breaking down, criminalization and imprisonment, and just maybe there’s a lucrative payoff for it. A report by the ACLU shows that prisoners generate over $11 BILLION of goods and services and are rarely paid anything. She and Laverne talk about bail reform, the shady habit of over-policing and underfunding poor communities, and the way the prison pipeline perpetuates itself. “Our environments are who we become.”

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    Mass Incarceration Is Slavery (Olurin, The Appeal)

    Tyre Nichols Was Killed by Black Police Officers Because the Whole System Is Racist (Olurin, Teen Vogue)

    Bayard Rustin (PBS Newshour, YouTube)

    Podcast: American Police (Throughline, 2020)

    Kalief Browder, 1993-2015 (2015, The New Yorker)

    Justice Not Fear

    How do I know if a source is credible?

    Media Bias Chart

    Links of Interest:

    What is bail reform? (ACLU)

    How Bail Reform, Crime Surge Mix in Angry Debate (The Washington Post, 2022)

    Criminal Justice Statistics (The Marshall Project)

    Criminal Fact Sheet (NAACP)

    The challenges facing black men - and the case for action (The Brookings Institute, 2020)

    The Condemnation of Blackness: Race, Crime and the Making of Modern Urban America

    Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media, Noam Chomsky

    Other Episodes Mentioned:

    Housing Segregation and Structural Racism w/ Richard Rothstein

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Diary: Thinking About Privilege Sep 14, 2023
    Show notes

    The recent episode honoring bell hooks with Darnell Moore and Imani Perry got Laverne thinking even more about ideas around privilege. Just because you have it, doesn’t make you bad. Just because someone else has it doesn’t make them an oppressor. Privilege is relative. You can be the most privileged person in one room and the least privileged person in the next. Perhaps it’s time to stop blaming other people, look also at ourselves, and move forward together. Just some thoughts.

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

    Links of Interest:

    After Racist Tweet, Roseanne Barr’s Show Is Canceled by ABC (NYT, 2018)

    Privilege and Intersectionality (Rider University)

    Other Episodes Mentioned or Relevant:

    Class Shaming w/ Mary O’Hara

    Beauty as Capital w/ Kimberly Foster

    Black Women Are Enough w/ Sarah Adeyinka Skold

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    The Spirituality of Club Culture w/ Honey Dijon Sep 07, 2023
    Show notes

    Laverne reunites with her long-time friend world-renowned DJ and record producer Honey Dijon to talk about her legendary career, their early days of New York City nightlife, and the universal energy shared on a dancefloor that can be a deeply profound spiritual experience. Honey is committed to sharing her club culture history and she’s got some names to drop. Honey Dijon is one of the first transgender artists to win a Grammy award, which she received for her production work on Beyonce’s latest album Renaissance.

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

    Links of Interest:

    Boiler Room Set 2018 (YouTube)

    Comme des Garcons Line (Vogue)

    Song: Let’s Go by Fast Eddie

    Song: Doctor Love by First Choice

    Song: Let No Man Put Asunder by First Choice

    Steve Dahl’s Notorious 1979 Disco Demolition

    Wigstock Returns From the Dead (NYTimes)

    Grace Jones Meltdown Festival (video)

    Grace Jones Live at Meltdown Festival (Review)

    Names Mentioned:

    Derrick Carter

    Frankie Knuckles

    Danny Tenaglia

    Lady Bunny

    Jean-Michel Basquiat

    Keith Haring

    Ajita Wilson

    Azzedine Alaia

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Transitioning as a Child and Beyond w/ Nicole Maines Aug 31, 2023
    Show notes

    With all of the misinformation and laws taking rights away from trans youth and their parents who want to support them through a tricky childhood, it’s time to hear from someone who lived it. Transgender actress and activist Nicole Maines first rose to prominence as a teenager fighting for her civil rights. Not long after winning a groundbreaking legal challenge, she found herself cast as the first transgender superhero in television history playing Dreamer on The CW’s Supergirl. She is thriving, in love, having a blast in her career and now basically living the life of her dreams. But it wasn’t always smooth sailing growing up trans. And the fight is definitely not over.

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

    This episode was recorded before the SAG-AFTRA strike.

    Links of Interest:

    Becoming Nicole: The inspiring story of transgender actor-activist Nicole Maines and her extraordinary family

    The Trans List Trailer (Facebook)

    The Trans List: In Conversation (YouTube)

    Doe v. Clenchy aka Doe v. Regional School Unit 26

    Gavin Grimm (Washington Post)

    Television’s First Transgender Superhero Will Arrive on ‘Supergirl’ (New York Times, 2018)

    Gay Berlin by Robert Beachy

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    Episodes Mentioned and Further Listening:

    Reclaiming the Trans Narrative w/ Chase Strangio & Miss Peppermint

    Pushing Back Against Anti-Trans Media & Policies w/ Chase Strangio

    Ending Violence Toward Trans People w/ Dr. Karen Franklin

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    The Work and Legacy of bell hooks w/ Imani Perry & Darnell Moore Aug 24, 2023
    Show notes

    Gloria Jean Watkins, the revolutionary Black feminist intellectual known as bell hooks, died on December 15, 2021. She was 69. In her time with us she wrote over 30 books and became a powerful voice in social criticism and commentary. Laverne and her friends, author and activist Darnell Moore and scholar and author Imani Perry, all had close personal relationships with Ms. hooks. In this loving tribute they discuss her impact, legacy, themes and teachings that have profoundly impacted each of them in different ways including her ideas centered around domination, arguing in community, and imperialist, white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy. She was feminist-and-fly, a little shady, and fully human.

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram, TikTok and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

    Links of Interest:

    The Wide Angle Vision, and Legacy, of bell hooks (New York Times)

    The bell hooks Center

    Gov. DeSantis Book Banning Push

    The Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord

    AUDIO: bell hooks & Cornell West Press Conference (1997, C-Span)

    Million Man March

    Roberta Flack, Afro Blue

    bell hooks’ works mentioned:

    Feminism is for Everybody

    Yearning

    Black Looks

    Real to Reel

    Other Episodes Mentioned:

    Beauty as Capital w/ Kimberly Foster

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Diary: My Body Aug 17, 2023
    Show notes

    In this audio diary Laverne explores how her relationship with her body has evolved through her transition and over the years since. As a Black trans woman over 50 in a sexist, transphobic, fatphobic, ageist, white supremacist society, she says she feels RELIEF when she looks in the mirror. May we all find acceptance of and peace with our bodies regardless of our age, color, gender expression, mobility and size, because our bodies matter.

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

    Other Episodes Mentioned:

    Fatphobia & Diet Culture w/ Virgie Tovar

    Beauty as Capital w/ Kimberly Foster

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Editing Support: Nikolas Harter

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    The Supreme Court Crisis w/ Elie Mystal Aug 10, 2023
    Show notes

    Attorney, writer and political commentator Elie Mystal joins Laverne to talk about the radically conservative United States Supreme Court, the constitutional amendments through history and his eye-opening book, Allow Me To Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution. He explains how the judges’ own personal tastes make the largest impact on decisions and how the right’s unification has reaped a pipeline of conservative judges the left cannot replicate. They also talk about options like stacking the court and term limits to make change, but when it comes down to it, guess what, it’s up to us.

    Elie is a frequent media contributor and the justice correspondent at The Nation.

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

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    The U.S. Constitution Amendments mentioned:

    1st Amendment = freedom of religion, speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

    2nd Amendment = the right to bear arms

    4th Amendment = the right to be protected against unreasonable search and seizure

    “Reconstruction Amendments”

    13th Amendment (1865) = abolition of slavery

    14th Amendment (1868) = US citizenship rights and equal protection of the laws

    15th Amendment (1870) = Black men can vote

    Links of Interest:

    Elie Mystal on The Mehdi Hassan Show (MSNBC via YouTube, 6/29/23)

    Here’s What Happened When Affirmative Action Ended in California Public Colleges (NPR, 6/30/23)

    The Current Supreme Court Justices

    News and analysis of the US Supreme Court

    Reconstruction Amendments (Video, PBS)

    The Federalist Society

    Progressive Mobilization:

    American Constitution Society (ACS)

    Alliance for Justice

    Demand Justice

    Cases mentioned:

    Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka

    Loving v. Virginia

    US vs. Rahimi (opinion)

    Slaughterhouse Cases

    Bostock v. Clayton County, Georgia

    303 Creative LLC v. Elenis

    Previous Episodes Mentioned:

    Residential Segregation & Structural Racism w/ Richard Rothstein

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Editing Support: Nikolas Harter

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Reclaiming the Trans Narrative w/ Chase Strangio and Miss Peppermint Aug 03, 2023
    Show notes

    Chase Strangio is Deputy Director for Transgender Justice with the ACLU’s LGBT & HIV Project, and a nationally recognized expert on transgender rights. Miss Peppermint is an actress, musical performer, and she nearly won season 9 of RuPaul’s Drag race. She's become the ACLU’s first-ever Artist Ambassador for Trans Justice.

    Laverne has brought these two powerhouses on to discuss how we can change the conversation about trans people from surgery and transition to humanity and privacy. They talk about the state of legislatures around the country, the truth about gender affirming care, strategies for allies to step up, and, of course, finding joy in their beautiful community.

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

    Links of Interest:

    Trans Justice Funding Project

    ACLU Mapping Attacks on LGBTQ Rights

    Laverne and Katie Couric Follow-Up Visit (Video)

    Trans People Facing Horrifying Rhetoric at State Houses (re Gwendolyn Herzig)

    The NY Times Publishes a Defense of JK Rowling… (VanityFair)

    Other Episodes Mentioned:

    Pushing Back Against Anti-Trans Media & Policies with Chase Strangio

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Editing Support: Nikolas Harter

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Holding Space for the Hard Things w/ Glennon Doyle Jul 27, 2023
    Show notes

    Content Warning: this episode contains discussion about eating disorders, addiction, and recovery.

    This interview was recorded in March 2023.

    In this incredibly vulnerable conversation, Laverne and Glennon Doyle, writer and co-host of the podcast We Can Do Hard Things, give a masterclass in real talk. Nothing is off limits as they dig into everything from addiction, perfectionism, boundaries and figuring out how much is “enough” in our hustle culture, to honoring their inner child, their bodies and the need to play dress up sometimes.

    Please rate, review, subscribe and share The Laverne Cox Show with everyone you know. You can find Laverne on Instagram, TikTok and Twitter @LaverneCox and on Facebook at @LaverneCoxForReal.

    As always, stay in the love.

    Links of Interest:

    We Can Do Hard Things Podcast

    Total Eclipse of the Heart - Bonnie Tyler

    Other Episodes Mentioned:

    Moving Beyond Us Vs. Them w/ Brené Brown

    Fatphobia and Diet Culture w/ Virgie Tovar

    Trauma Resilience & Healing w/ Jennifer Burton Flier

    Trauma Resilience & Healing Encore w/ Jennifer Burton Flier

    Beauty as Capital w/ Kimberly Foster

    CREDITS:

    Executive Producers: Sandie Bailey, Alex Alcheh, Lauren Hohman, Tyler Klang & Gabrielle Collins

    Producer & Editor: Brooke Peterson-Bell

    Associate Producer: Akiya McKnight

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


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