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    The Kenny Aronoff Sessions

    Sit front row center with Kenny Aronoff, one of the most accomplished drummers in rock and roll history, as he pulls back the curtain on the real secrets to success. Watch him go one on one, in deep conversation with other legends and leaders in the worlds of music, entertainment and business on his new show, “The Kenny Aronoff Sessions”
    From the glamour of the spotlight to the grit and grind that it takes to make it to the top, Kenny and his A-List of guests will take a deep dive into the remarkable stories and powerful strategies that have propelled them to the pinnacle of their respective industries. With unrivaled experience and real-world insight, Kenny guides listeners on the road to success. Exploring key ingredients for achieving greatness and sharing the lifetime of wisdom he has gathered from working in the heart of the music business for over 40 years. Whether you’re a musician, a business leader, or simply seeking inspiration and guidance, “The Kenny Aronoff Sessions” is the perfect mental map for anyone navigating the wilderness of their wildest dreams as they rock and roll towards their own dreams of success.

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    Desmond Child | #023 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions Dec 14, 2023
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    Kenny takes listeners on a deep dive into the music industry as he welcomes renowned hitmaker, Desmond Child, to the podcast. Together, they unveil the remarkable career of this legendary musician who has etched his name in the annals of music history by producing, writing, or co-writing some of the most iconic rock and pop songs ever recorded. With credits including such artists as Kiss, Bon Jovi, Cher, and many, many more, Desmond's Grammy-winning production skills and his prestigious membership in the Songwriters Hall of Fame highlight his extraordinary contributions to the world of music.

    During this engaging episode, listeners are transported on a mesmerizing journey through the multifaceted world of music. Desmond Child generously shares the captivating stories behind legendary songs like "Livin' on a Prayer," and "Livin' la Vida Loca," providing a rare glimpse into the creative process that brought these timeless classics to life. The episode not only explores the triumphs but also the challenges faced in the music industry, all while shedding light on the passion that fuels artists and producers to create music that ultimately resonates with millions. Whether one is a dedicated music enthusiast, an aspiring songwriter, or merely curious about the enigmatic world behind chart-topping hits, this episode is yet another absolute must-listen.


    Episode Highlights:

    • Desmond Child’s book, Livin' On A Prayer: Big Songs Big Life
    • Ensuring “Hole in my Soul” and “Ain't that a Bitch” made it on Aerosmith’s Nine Lives album
    • The songwriting inspiration that Dianne Warren and Desmond’s mother provided
    • Desmond’s Gentlemen’s Club, Pro Tools, and recordingRicky Martin’s Livin’ La Vida Loca
    • Glen Ballard, Alanis Morisette, Wilson Phillips, Avril Lavigne and Lauren Christy
    • Writing for such stars as Hilary Duff, Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Bo Bice, and Fantasia
    • Kenny on recording multiple songs in one day
    • Working with Meatloaf
    • Working on Meatloaf’s Bat Out of Hell 3
    • Desmond on learning how to work with Meatloaf and his temper
    • Desmond on self-publishing his book Livin' On A Prayer: Big Songs Big Life
    • Desmond’s story behind Aerosmith’s “Dude (Looks Like a Lady)”
    • The writing of Aerosmith’s “Angel” and “Heart’s Done Time”
    • Desmond’s songwriting process
    • Writing “You Give Love A Bad Name” with Jon Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora
    • Desmond’s contributions to Bon Jovi’s “Livin’ on a Prayer” and “Bad Medicine”


    Quotes:

    "Your sessions were always the most exciting, and you were such a great team leader. And you motivate everybody. You motivate, you excite everybody. That's your gift is passion, love, and joy."

    "He felt guilty because he really should never have gotten into the legal battles he did with Jim Steinman over the brand Bat Out of Hell."

    "I was known as a difficult person, and I don't see myself as difficult. I'm demanding, but people are better because of it."

    "And it's like the song caught on and it brought their band back to life."


    🌐 Stay connected with Kenny:

    🌐 https://kennyaronoff.com/

    📘 https://www.facebook.com/KennyAronoffOfficial

    🐦 https://twitter.com/AronoffOFFICIAL

    📷 https://www.instagram.com/kennyaronoff/


    🌐 Keep up with Desmond Child:

    https://desmondchild.com/


    Jamming on Goo Goo Doll Hits with John Rzeznik (Bonus) Dec 07, 2023
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    🎸 Get ready to rock out with Kenny Aronoff and John Rzeznik in this Bonus Episode! 🤘 They're spilling backstage secrets, jamming to classic Goo Goo Dolls hits (like "Little Cuckoo" 😉), and watching Kenny attempt some epic guitar power chords! Tune in now for the ultimate music session! 🎶 #RockNRoll #JamSession #GooGooDollsFun


    John Rzeznik | #022 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions Nov 30, 2023
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    John Rzeznik | #022 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions

    Today, Kenny welcomes legendary Goo Goo Dolls frontman, John Rzeznik, to the podcast for a deep dive into a wide range of topics including personal growth, decision-making, career longevity, and health. Together, they provide valuable insights into the world of music, songwriting, and authenticity.

    Sharing anecdotes and personal experiences that provide valuable lessons for all, they delve into the importance of living a fulfilling life, embracing leadership, and maintaining a strong commitment to your craft and to those who are drawn to it. Whether you're a music enthusiast, an aspiring leader, or simply seeking inspiration for your journey, this episode offers a wealth of wisdom and practical advice. Join Kenny and John as they share their stories, experiences, and laughter, reminding us all to strive for happiness and excellence in our own lives.


    Episode Highlights:


    • Goo Goo Dolls fans
    • Kenny on first finding success in the music industry
    • John and Kenny on being an artist
    • John and Kenny on objectivity
    • Brad Fernquist and surrounding yourself with the best
    • Goo Goo Dolls’ Live at The Academy, New York City, 1995
    • John’s songwriting process
    • Kenny’s sight reading and popularity among other musicians
    • John and Kenny on happiness
    • John on writing melodies, detuning guitars, and the influence of Hüsker Dü
    • The impact John’s upbringing has on his music
    • John and Kenny on failure and mistakes
    • John and Kenny on working with different types of stars
    • John and Kenny on how to get out of a ‘pretty dark headspace’
    • John’s daughter
    • Kenny’s tour with Joe Satriani
    • His ‘prepare and repair’ regimen
    • John’s start as a singer
    • Kenny’s wine
    • John on quitting drinking
    • John on songwriting and ‘Iris’
    • Goo Goo Dolls’ Chaos in Bloom
    • John on playing the band’s hits
    • Kenny on the music industry over the years
    • Jon Bon Jovi’s generosity to John
    • John and Kenny on social media and dealing with negativity
    • John and Kenny on constantly improving and spreading happiness
    • John on collecting recording equipment, their studio, and the Buffalo music scene
    • John’s choice of music over college
    • John on being a ‘pizza freak’
    • Vaclav Smil’s The Way the World Really Works and Jeff Cavaliere’s ATHLEAN-X
    • Kenny’s ‘A Healthy Life Is a Wealthy Life’
    • How Sex Maggots became Goo Goo Dolls


    Quotes:

    “I want to be the weakest link on that stage, truly."

    "Music became a way for me to make friends, and to bond with people, and to have a peer group."

    “My sisters were a huge influence on me, whether I realized it or not.”

    "You better bring it... It might be their only big night out that summer…Don't bring your pissy little rockstar problems into the situation."

    "I'm a negativity sponge.”

    "You’ve got to take a little from everybody and find what works for you."


    🌐 Stay connected with Kenny:

    🌐 https://kennyaronoff.com/

    📘 https://www.facebook.com/KennyAronoffOfficial

    🐦 https://twitter.com/AronoffOFFICIAL

    📷 https://www.instagram.com/kennyaronoff/


    🌐 Keep up with the Goo Goo Dolls:

    https://www.googoodolls.com/


    Ann Wilson | #021 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions Nov 16, 2023
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    In this thrilling podcast episode, legendary musician Kenny Aronoff welcomes the iconic Ann Wilson, co-founder, and lead singer of the legendary rock band Heart. Together, they dive deep into the themes of adaptation, legacy, and the enduring power of music in an ever-changing world. They explore the evolution of the music industry from the '60s and '70s to the present day, emphasizing the need for artists to adapt continually to stay relevant in a dynamic industry. Ann and Kenny reflect on their experiences and the role of love and passion for music in propelling artists forward.

    The conversation takes a mesmerizing turn as they delve into the enduring impact of Heart's music. Iconic tracks like "Barracuda," "Magic Man," and "Crazy on You" continue to resonate with audiences across generations, transcending eras and captivating listeners with their timeless guitar riffs. Ann Wilson also offers an exclusive look into her latest album, "Another Door," providing insights into her creative approach to music. Join Kenny Aronoff and Ann Wilson on this captivating journey through the world of music, where adaptation, collaboration, and the timeless magic of rock and roll take center stage, leaving listeners inspired by the enduring power of music to connect with people of all ages.

    Episode Highlights:

    • Ann and Kenny on gaining perspective about life
    • Ann & Tripsitter’s latest album Another Door
    • Their song “Rain of Hell”
    • The 90’s Seattle music scene
    • Ann & Tripsitter’s song “Ruler of the Night”
    • Ann’s perspective on songwriting
    • Juggling tour schedules with Heart and Tripsitter
    • The story behind the name ‘Tripsitter’
    • Ann and Kenny on the songwriting process
    • The uncomfortable time when John Mellencamp’s band was opening for Heart
    • Kenny’s concept of “adapt or die’
    • The ongoing popularity of Heart’s “Barracuda”, “Magic Man”, and “Crazy on You”
    • Elton John’s praise for Ann Wilson’s singing
    • Kenny’s story about the Kennedy Centre Honor for Led Zeppelin
    • Heart’s relationship with Jason Bonham
    • Ann Wilson’s influences
    • The story behind the creation of Tripsitter
    • Ann Wilson’s rescue dogs
    • Ann Wilson’s experience with Dolly Parton
    • Ann’s perspective on women in rock these days
    • Ann’s parents
    • Ann and Kenny’s upcoming performance with Jim Ursay

    

    Quotes:

    "I feel that I'm more satisfied now as a writer, and it's getting me off now more than it ever has."

    "Sometimes you get with a songwriting crew that just judges, and you're too scared to even say your ideas because you know they're going to get shot down."

    "If you stay around long enough, you see they're just eras, and you just kind of roll through them."

    "I think it's our love and our just love for doing what we do that keeps us going."

    "I just feel like playing music is my calling, and I'm really getting off on that, that's for sure."

    "Well, besides dogs and music, what else is there?"

    "That was one of the first things that Heart ever learned as a band in the basement was like a Led Zeppelin medley."


    🌐 Stay connected with Kenny:

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    🐦 https://twitter.com/AronoffOFFICIAL

    📷 https://www.instagram.com/kennyaronoff/


    🌐 Connect with Ann:

    🌐 https://annwilson.com/




    Jake Owen | #020 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions Nov 02, 2023
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    Jake Owen | #020 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions

    In today’s episode, country sensation Jake Owen joins Kenny to embark on an inspiring journey through their lives and careers. They begin by attributing their unwavering positivity and self-belief to the strong foundation of family support, which has played a pivotal role in shaping their outlook on success and relationships. Drawing from their athletic backgrounds, they underline the importance of discipline and work ethic in the pursuit of their dreams, and champion the embrace of the unknown, celebrating the spontaneity that life offers and how it has enriched their personal and professional journeys.

    Through their candid conversation, Jake and Kenny reveal their resilience in the face of adversity, highlighting the transformative power of determination and unwavering belief in oneself as the keys to unlocking success. In addition to these life lessons, Jake discusses the musical influences which have shaped his distinctive singing style, the importance of resilience, and his passion for the noble work in which his Jake Owen Foundation engages. His tales of re-working "Jack and Diane" and becoming a chart-topping artist are reviewed as is the story behind his famous tattoo. Listen in today and discover exactly why Kenny has dubbed Jake Owen “The Happy to be Alive Guy” - a title encapsulating the sheer amount of positivity which he possesses that has propelled him to both the top of the charts and the highest levels of the music industry.


    Episode Highlights:

    • Jake and Kenny on family and having a twin brother
    • Maintaining a positive attitude
    • Jake and Kenny on leadership
    • Jake’s experiences at the Mayo Clinic
    • The value of the skills JAke and Kenny learned through sports
    • Jake’s start in recording and touring
    • “Eight Second Ride”
    • How John Mellencamp’s music influenced Keith Urban
    • Doing what you believe in with passion
    • Jake’s guitar and singing influences
    • Resilience and believing in yourself
    • The Jake Owen Foundation
    • “I Was Jack (You Were Diane)"
    • The story behind the recording of John Mellencamp’s “Jack and Diane” and Kenny’s legendary performance on it
    • The stories behind Jake Owen and Kenny Aronoff’s tattoos
    • Jake’s plans for the future
    • Kenny’s upcoming collaboration with Jim Irsay


    Quotes:

    "Positivity attracts positivity, and negativity attracts negativity."

    "The fuel that makes you do that is the love for what you do."

    "If you just believe that things will happen, I can assure you one thing, I'm not a genius, but I know that by believing, you have way better chances than not believing."

    "Golf is a lot like life, where you're going to hit bad shots, you're going to hit some really good ones, and you just have to enjoy the so-called game or the journey that you're playing."

    "I'm not worried to hit it in the water in life because I'll just get out and swim to the edge and I'll just try to hit it over the water again at the end of the day."


    🌐 Stay connected with Kenny:

    🌐 https://kennyaronoff.com/

    📘 https://www.facebook.com/KennyAronoffOfficial

    🐦 https://twitter.com/AronoffOFFICIAL

    📷 https://www.instagram.com/kennyaronoff/

    🎵 https://www.tiktok.com/@kennyaronoffofficial

    🌐 Jake Owen: https://www.jakeowen.net/



    The Secret Behind John 5's Guitar Virtuosity | The Kenny Aronoff Sessions Bonus Episode Oct 26, 2023
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    Ever wondered how a guitarist can effortlessly move from rock anthems with Marilyn Manson to pop classics with K.D. Lang? Get ready to be INSPIRED. In this Bonus Episode, Kenny dives deep with John 5 about his incredible musical journey, unveiling the secrets to his diverse range. You'll regret missing out on these AMAZING anecdotes.


    🌐 Stay connected with Kenny:

    🌐 https://kennyaronoff.com/

    📘 https://www.facebook.com/KennyAronoffOfficial

    🐦 https://twitter.com/AronoffOFFICIAL

    📷 https://www.instagram.com/kennyaronoff/

    🎵 https://www.tiktok.com/@kennyaronoffofficial


    John 5 | #019 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions Oct 19, 2023
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    John 5, virtuoso guitarist, and the man immortalized by fellow guitar legend, Slash, as “hands-down one of the most mind-blowing guitarists around’, takes center stage here today on this latest installment of the Kenny Aronoff Sessions. Throughout this thoroughly engaging conversation, John shares his profound connection with his guitar, Goldie, as well as his extraordinary journey from a young music enthusiast to a versatile session musician and member of such iconic bands as Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, and Motley Crue. Together, he and Kenny delve into themes of musical genius, relentless pursuit of excellence, and seizing life's opportunities as they present themselves.

    Recounting memorable tales from their illustrious careers, our duo offers invaluable insights into finding and pursuing one's true purpose, the simplicity of excellence, resilience in the face of challenges, and the impact of teamwork and inspiration in music. They also touch upon the camaraderie, loyalty, and professionalism required to thrive in iconic bands and share personal experiences of departing from successful groups, underlining the importance of communication during transitions. Join Kenny and John here today as they shed light on the power of friendship in the music industry, the life and challenges of iconic musicians, and the pure motivation found in performing for the joy of fans.

    Episode Highlights:

    • John 5’s ‘epiphany moment’ about becoming a musician
    • John and Kenny on the ripple effect of the joy playing music brings them
    • ‘Having a Plan B’
    • Their love of Bob Marlette
    • John on feeling cursed in his life
    • John and Kenny’s terrifying experiences in planes
    • John’s favorite guitars and guitarists
    • His limited use of equipment
    • The genius of Eddie Van Halen and Jimi Hendrix
    • John and Kenny on how ‘life is short’ and taking that ‘first step’
    • Gregg Alexander and J.T. Harding
    • John’s first job in LA
    • RPS, preparation, nerves, and failure
    • John’s guitar heroes
    • His parents and their support of his career
    • His early gigs
    • Joining bands and playing at award shows
    • Leaving bands
    • Playing with Marilyn Manson
    • John’s favorite country music guitarists
    • Excellence, Steely Dan, Tears for Fears, and Asia
    • John’s best David Lee Roth story
    • Kenny on ear-ins and RPS
    • Doing what you love
    • Kenny’s book, Sex, Drums and Rock and Roll
    • John 5 and Kenny Aronoff on bringing joy to audiences
    • John 5’s upcoming tours with Motley Crue and The Creatures
    • John 5 on meeting audience members


    Quotes:

    "Life without risk is no life at all."

    "The ripple effect of your joy affects everyone in the room."

    "Success is not just about talent; it's about being the person others want in the room."

    "Eddie Van Halen, he was our musical Mozart.”

    "Life is short.”

    "My whole career didn't crash when I said ‘no’. It's still going."

    "I think that's the meaning of life is just doing what you love."

    "That moment, that experience, will stay with them forever.”


    🌐 Stay connected with Kenny:

    🌐 https://kennyaronoff.com/

    📘 https://www.facebook.com/KennyAronoffOfficial

    🐦 https://twitter.com/AronoffOFFICIAL

    📷 https://www.instagram.com/kennyaronoff/

    🎵 https://www.tiktok.com/@kennyaronoffofficial


    Criss Angel | #018 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions Sep 21, 2023
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    Welcome to another mesmerizing episode of The Kenny Aronoff Sessions where legendary magician and rock star performer, Criss Angel, takes the spotlight. Kenny sets the stage with effusive praise for Criss, highlighting his authenticity and passion, setting the tone for this captivating conversation. Listeners gain unique insights into Criss’ multifaceted career, from his magical shows to his musical ventures and his best-selling authorship, all underscored by his relentless work ethic and unwavering dedication. His journey unfolds, starting from his early days in his family's donut shop, emphasizing the importance of initiative and perseverance, as well as the pivotal moments that led him to excel in both magic and music.

    As the episode progresses, Kenny and Criss explore the parallels between their careers, emphasizing the dedication required for excellence, and underscoring the significance of continuous self-improvement, the pursuit of excellence, and the importance of giving back through charity work. Criss’ strategic approach to his career, particularly his journey to Las Vegas, the magic capital of the world, is revealed and both Kenny and Criss stress their unwavering commitment to their crafts and maintaining peak performance. Join Kenny and Criss on this journey through creativity, commitment, and the transformative power of never giving up on one's dreams, where magic and music converge into a symphony of success and inspiration.

    Episode Highlights:

    • Criss and Kenny’s instant friendship
    • Criss’ Las Vegas shows and his incredible cast and crew
    • The impact Criss’ amazing father had on his career
    • Criss’ love of music and magic
    • Criss and Kenny on being unstoppable, undeniable, and 100% authentic
    • How Criss ended up in Las Vegas
    • Criss and Kenny’s incredible work ethic
    • Criss and Kenny on writing and reading drum charts
    • Criss Angel on physical mental, emotional, and spiritual preparation
    • Kenny Aronoff’s collaborations with Jim Irsay and Kenny Wayne Shepherd
    • Criss Angel’s start in magic
    • Criss Angel on light, love, positivity, and providing life lesson advice for his kids
    • Some of Criss Angel’s most amazing work
    • Criss Angel’s Johnny Crisstopher Children's Charitable Foundation and its upcoming fundraiser
    • Criss Angel’s work with Angeldust, Celldweller’s Klayton, and Shaunyl Benson
    • Kenny on watching performances of “Jack and Diane”
    • Criss’ Planet Hollywood MINDFREAK show
    • His contribution to Kiss’ Vegas residency show
    • Criss and Kenny on how “You can’t set it and forget it”
    • The organization Criss has built and its impact on Las Vegas
    • Criss and Kenny on having a “Plan B”
    • Criss on constantly creating


    Quotes:

    "For me, it's a switch I turn on because I do it so often."

    "The journey is far greater than the destination."

    "I am not the most talented at what I do. What I am is the hardest working."

    "The work ethic is more commitment now than it was when I was trying to make it."

    "The ripple effect of your joy, your happiness, your love will affect everybody around you."

    "The past doesn't define you."

    "Money doesn't make you happy. I see lots of people that have money and they're miserable."


    🌐 Stay connected with Kenny:

    🌐 https://kennyaronoff.com/

    📘 https://www.facebook.com/KennyAronoffOfficial

    🐦 https://twitter.com/AronoffOFFICIAL

    📷 https://www.instagram.com/kennyaronoff/

    🎵 https://www.tiktok.com/@kennyaronoffofficial


    Don Was | #017 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions Sep 14, 2023
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    Two very close friends reunite here today as Kenny sits down for a truly engaging and fascinating chat with internationally renowned producer, musician, president of Blue Note Records, and overall music legend, Don Was. Together, they explore the highlights from Don’s stellar career, dive into the world of music production, and share tales of their many, many collaborations over the years with some of the music world’s most talented stars.

    Along the way, they delve into the pivotal role of energy and positivity in the recording studio, highlighting how these factors contribute to creating timeless records. Don’s exceptional ability to connect with artists on a personal level, treating them with respect and kindness, stands as a cornerstone of his enduring success in the music industry. His unique approach has led him to work with such stars as Bonnie Raitt, George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Neil Diamond, and Elton John to name just a very few. Join this incredible musical journey from copier repairman to highly sought after record producer/musician and uncover the wisdom, passion, and authenticity that define Don Was's extraordinary career.


    Episode Highlights:

    • Don Was and Kenny Aronoff on recording music
    • The first time they met
    • Some of their many collaborations
    • Kenny’s opportunity to tour with Elton John
    • Don’s experience working with George Harrison and Bob Dylan
    • Don’s communicative approach to producing records
    • Don and Kenny’s experience working with the Rolling Stones
    • Don’s start as a musician
    • Don’s supportive parents
    • Don and Kenny on the Vietnam War and getting drafted
    • Don on growing up in Detroit with its rich musical culture
    • His radio show
    • His start in producing records
    • Don’s work with Bonnie Raitt and The B-52’s
    • A low point in Don’s life and the moment it all changed for the better
    • Don and Kenny on seeking out new adventures
    • Their opportunity private audience opportunity with the Dalai Lama
    • Don’s experience working with The Highwaymen
    • Don and Kenny’s collaboration on A Grammy Salute to The Beatles
    • Don on working with Bob Seger and Ed Cherney
    • Don on running Blue Note
    • Don and Kenny’s experience at Frank Sinatra’s last public performance
    • Don and Kenny’s collaborations with such stars as Niel Diamond, Joe Cocker, and Billy Preston
    • Don Was’ continuing quest to improve
    • Chick Corea’s advice for Don


    Quotes:

    "You’ve got to feel good about jumping off a cliff - that people are going to catch you at the bottom if you fall."

    "Teams win Super Bowls and World Series, not individuals, and Don knows that better than anyone."

    "Tell the truth, but don't be a dick about it. Treat musicians the way you'd want to be treated."

    "They're not paying you to be a fan. Get in there and do your job."

    "There's a gift in everything."

    "The ripple effect of being happy affects people around you.”

    "We're wired to keep seeking new adventures and enjoying life to the fullest."

    "I wanted to show real respect.”

    "I'm playing bass better than I ever have in my life."


    Links:

    Kenny Aronoff

    Blue Note Records



    Grace Potter | #016 The Kenny Aronoff Sessions Aug 31, 2023
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    In a truly epic episode, Kenny welcomes trailblazing artist, musician, multiple Grammy nominee, and self-proclaimed ‘hot engine’, Grace Potter, to the podcast. Known for her unbridled energy and unique blend of musical styles, Grace's journey from forming her band with The Nocturnals to her successful solo career and extensive artistic endeavors is legendary. Today, she and Kenny take a wild look into the topics of music, passion, self-worth, and navigating life's creative chaos.

    Together, they also delve deeply into the topics of identity, motherhood, and the power of music. Grace reflects on her journey as an artist and a mother, the roots of apologies and forgiveness, empowerment, and the significance of language in shaping our narratives. This episode offers insights into Grace's creative process, her relationship with music as a form of therapy, and her approach to performing. Touching upon such familiar themes as teamwork and leadership, Grace displays her intriguing perspective on life here today, modeling for listeners a rock solid commitment to authenticity, family, and, of course, music.


    Episode Highlights:

    • The first time Kenny saw Grace perform
    • Grace’s early love of ski outfits and being in the spotlight
    • The culture that Grace’s parents embraced in Vermont
    • Grace and Kenny on their glasses game and fashion
    • Grace and Kenny on the ‘switch of life’, sleeping, health, and meditation
    • Jessica Meir, parenthood, and Grace’s latest record, Mother Road
    • Grace’s identities as a person and a musician
    • Her early relationships
    • Grace’s issues with self-worth
    • Her experience as a mother
    • Jon Aronoff, Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow, and the power of play
    • Grace’s parents
    • Grace on teamwork, leadership, and going solo
    • The Grand Point North music festival
    • Grace and Kenny’s perspectives on skiing
    • Grace’s home and studio in Vermont
    • Her work with Bernie Sanders
    • Grace’s thoughts on aging
    • The people she most identifies with
    • Grace on being mute, legally blind, and reading a room
    • Grace on learning to play piano and guitar
    • Nick Bockrath’s playing on Grace’s “Little Hitchhiker”
    • The stories behind her “Lady Vagabond” and “Masterpiece”
    • Where Grace’s music comes from
    • Words that Kenny and Grace never use
    • Kenny and Grace on saying, “I’m sorry”
    • Doing things differently in the next chapter of life
    • Grace on self-worth and being apologetic
    • Apologies and forgiveness
    • What music means to Grace now
    • Grace on rehearsing and drummers


    Quotes:

    "Everybody who gets into music knows that they're properly insane."

    "Play and trauma are the two ways that we learn anything."

    “I always think my brain is the 4th of July. But I think you're like me on steroids in a woman."

    "I don't even think of it as leadership. I just think of it as being a good person."

    "Saying 'I'm sorry' for anything is a premonition of asking forgiveness later from that same person."

    "I’m the pinball that you could throw into a machine.”

    "For me, music is kind of my binky."


    Links:

    Kenny Aronoff

    Grace Potter


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