The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima

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Hour 4: Browns Fans Mutiny over Deshaun Watson Decision Aug 25, 2026

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Jason Lloyd joins Ken Carman and Anthony Lima to discuss the "legitimate backlash" from fans after the Cleveland Browns named Deshaun Watson the starting quarterback. They analyze whether the decision came from offensive coordinator Todd Monken or ownership following Watson's controversial post-game comments toward the fan base. The conversation explores the future of backup Shedeur Sanders and why some fans are now openly rooting against the team to teach the organization a lesson.

(00:02:55) Watson Named Starter

(00:08:03) Head Coach Authority

(00:13:12) Shedeur Sanders Future

(00:18:20) Intensifying Fan Backlash

(00:27:40) Frustrated Listener Calls

(00:36:16) Teaching Browns Lessons

Fans Bombard the Show With Anti-Watson Rants Aug 25, 2026

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Ken and Anthony close out the show fielding a stream of angry caller voicemails and phone calls venting about Deshaun Watson, including one loyal fan who vows to drive to Tampa just to boo him in person during Week 2. Ken admits for the first time in fifteen years he understands why some fans might be quietly rooting against the team, framing it as fans wanting the organization to finally learn its lesson. The show wraps with a nod to the Guardians, who remain in the playoff hunt as their opponent's season came to an end.

The Browns Have an Adversarial Relationship With Their Quarterback Aug 25, 2026

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Ken and Anthony argue the post game presser, not the starter decision itself, is what turned a bad situation into an outright revolt, pointing to protests at the Berea facility and posters on the Jim Brown statue as proof. Ken admits he never thought this would go well but is stunned by just how bad it's actually gotten, and doubles down on refusing to accept Watson's apology no matter what happens on the field. Callers pile on with grim predictions for Week 1, and the show closes by bracing for what happens to the locker room if the losing continues into Week 3.

Jason Lloyd: "They Deserve Everything They're Going to Get" With Watson Aug 25, 2026

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The Athletic's Jason Lloyd joins the show and doesn't hold back, saying the Browns brought this backlash on themselves and admitting the organization clearly underestimated how angry fans would be. Lloyd explains why he still believes the Watson decision was genuinely Todd Monken's call, walks through how the failed 2026 quarterback draft class left Cleveland stuck, and lays out why he thinks Shedeur Sanders' path in Cleveland is narrowing no matter how this season plays out. Ken and Anthony also press him on the growing fan backlash outside the Berea facility and what it could mean if the losing doesn't stop soon.

The Neutral Zone: Jed York Controversy & Justin Herbert's Super Bowl Chance Aug 25, 2026

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Ken and Lima bring in producer John to break down the Jed York arrest in East Palestine, Ohio, questioning how a billionaire owner ends up shopping the undercover ad menu and pointing out there's basically no real punishment coming his way. They also dig into the Chargers' offensive line injuries and what it means for Justin Herbert's Super Bowl odds, plus whether the Falcons' surprise breakout undrafted quarterback could ever be more than a training camp story.

Why Isn't Shedeur Playing Thursday? Aug 25, 2026

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Ken and Anthony can't figure out why Todd Monken is holding Shedeur Sanders out of Thursday's game, floating two competing theories: an ownership directive to protect the more marketable quarterback from injury, or a front office quietly trying to preserve his trade value. They also dig into whether there's any real trade market for Shedeur right now, and rip into his camp, specifically agent Quincy Avery, for online behavior they think is actively hurting his image. A caller pushes back, arguing the real reason is simpler: Monken can't afford to have Shedeur outplay Watson again before Thursday.

Should the Browns Actually Try to Tank for Arch Manning? Aug 25, 2026

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Ken drops his season win total after weighing the Browns' thin depth at edge rusher and secondary, landing on five wins even as he admits part of him wants to believe in more. A caller pushes the case for tanking outright, and Ken lays out why fans should always want the number one pick over a few meaningless late season wins, using a hypothetical Arch Manning breakout as the example. The show also touches on the Jim Brown statue getting used as a protest site against the Deshaun Watson decision, plus a debate over which other Browns legends deserve their own statue.

About Last Night: Ralphy's Explosion and Lane Kiffin Calling Out Monken Aug 25, 2026

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The Guardians ride their longest winning streak since May back to a .500 record and into possession of the final American League wild card spot, with Jo Adell and Austin Hedges both delivering big nights against the Angels. Ken and Anthony debate whether Hedges is having a career year fluke on par with Brady Anderson's famous power surge, and dig into the service time calculus holding back red hot prospect Rafael Velasquez, who has torched Triple-A pitching lately. The show closes out with a Lane Kiffin gag involving Todd Monken and a mysterious phone call about Dae'Quan Wright.

Would Mike Tannenbaum Have Started Watson? Aug 25, 2026

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Former NFL GM Mike Tannenbaum joins Ken and Anthony and admits he would not have picked Deshaun Watson to start, while explaining why he still trusts Todd Monken's read on the situation. Tannenbaum breaks down why he'd never trade Shedeur Sanders, calls Dillon Gabriel's Thursday game a big audition, and drops the line that the NFL is "a ruthless meritocracy," a phrase Ken immediately pushes back on. After the interview, Ken and Anthony debate whether fans will actually boo Watson at home if the Browns somehow start 2-0, and Ken can't even remember any of Watson's supposedly good performances over the last five years.

Is the Watson Decision Really Football, or an Ownership Conspiracy? Aug 25, 2026

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Ken and Anthony take calls debating whether Todd Monken's quarterback decision is really football driven or a directive from ownership protecting stadium PSL sales, with one caller pointing to the Browns' win totals under the Haslams as proof it's bigger than coaching. Another caller tries to argue Watson quit on the team, but Ken pushes back hard on that framing. The segment also revisits the Joe Flacco era as a painful reminder of what the offense looked like with a capable quarterback, and why that memory makes the current frustration even harder to shake.

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